Frost Bite...

...kind of feels like a parody of a quest. Aside from the ice melting and to some extent the lava bucket puzzle, the rest of the quest is horrible

- Unnecessary unskippable cutscenes (do we really need a cutscene for the demolitions person who literally just tells you what to do and walks forward a few blocks?)
- Abrupt and random ending
- Lore and story is literally worse than the Light Realm questline

 

i might check it out tonight NE

 

Yeah, I really don't like how it handled the backstory of Theorick.

Especially since it was all crammed into 10+ lines of dialogue during a "cutscene" where you can't even see anything.

 

The gameplay mechanics, specifically the ones you mentioned are fun, but story-wise, it’s just bad. We didn’t need another quest about Theorick since FoTF, Ice Barrows, and the Lusuco Library explain his lore well enough. Not only that, but Theo’s lore is esstentially downgraded from FoTF. In that quest, we learn that his personality was more than what meets the eye. Here, we learn that he was bad and that’s it. The lore here is very black and white compared to FoTF

 

It WOULD make sense if Frost bite came first; IE. He’s built up as a hated man in all of the frozen lands because he was greedy and cursed the land, which would help give us a negative view of him to start off with. Then we’d get to FotF where he starts off rude, feeding our expectations further, but then is revealed to actually care about the people, despite acting otherwise. It would give us a good view of him at the end and make him into an sort of antihero by the end of his storyline.

Instead, FotF comes first, giving us the view of him as a tragic figure embittered by war, and then Frostbite comes, tarnishing his reputation and making him seem greedy and narcissistic after the fact. Instead of starting off as a bad guy in our minds before we find the truth, we find the truth first, and THEN he's painted as a bad guy.

Overall, I did like the mechanics of the quest, but I kind of wish it had a more personal aspect to it. Like, imagine if the miner was trying to open a mansion that belonged to his ancestors instead, and he was trying to find what happened to them. We’d go through the motions of the quest, but instead of it just saying that “Theorick is bad and narcissistic”, it explored the consequences of the flash freeze, and the people it harmed. It would have much more impact, and would juxtapose Theorick’s plan to save the world with the very real immediate damage it did to the people, especially since it comes after FotF. It would make the freeze more personal, and would give meaning to the bitter spirits in the Ice Barrows dungeon and Theorick’s final lines telling the player to tell the world about why he froze it, because not everyone would understand.

 

In my opinion it was a good quest. It is a large improvement from the train wreck of a quest known as frost bitten (no offense to whoever made the original frost bitten, you are still cool).

The new frost bite is one of those quests where someone shows off their rad command block skills a lot. This has both upsides and downsides. Everything looks and feels better, but everything is a little bit slower.

All and all this quest does have some slow parts to it, but it is a great improvement to what we had.

 

The gameplay of the quest was stellar imo, but the story just makes it look like the CT doesnt know what the fuck it wants to do with Theoricks lore. Is he a grouch but gives a shit about people anyway? Is he a dick that saves peeps for money/recognition? (cough cough* slykaar) Nobody knows.

 

The CT is not responsible for the lore, Grian is. The CT just makes and codes quests revolving around the central lore that Grian already has created for the game. I'm pretty sure the CT has nothing to do with the overall "story" outside of what happens in each individual quest, unless something has changed in the last year. (Grian, if you see this I'm just explaining how lore works; I'm not trying to blame you for anything. I come in peace...)

Of course I have not played either quest regarding Theorick so I don't have an opinion on the way it's set up. The whole "one quest comes before another" probably wasn't intentional as the original quest was technically post-Nesaak and the ice dungeon is on level with Nesaak, messing up the order in which the lore is presented. It may not be the best way to broadcast the lore to the players, which might be why people are having such negative views about Theorick's lore.

 

While I don't know much about the lore I just wanna point that Rhudya (Is that how u say it) didn't have a cutscene but it had to be given to her as with a NPC the TNT was obtainable just once, and a cutscene would allow us to make it replayable so I set up that system. So if you lose the TNT you can get it back later + Isn't it like a 5secs scene?

 

The cutscene is 5 lines if I remember correctly - is it 2 seconds per line? (estimate but not sure)

 

i am sad the ice dude had ok lore like i understood why he done it then this quest go confuse it rip ice dude :(

 

Press F to pay respects for ice dude

 

Well at least it's better then what it used to be. And why does everyone have so much hate against cutscenes?

 

Everyone wants to burn through the quests as fast as possible in every class. Cutscenes greatly slow down the quests

 

cutscenes are one of the best quallities in quests imo, but being unskippable people tend to hate quests that are loaded with cutscenes; especially when the quests arent good. (New tutorial and this quest)

 

I feel like there should have been a boss Like a Guard of the house CALLED Frost Bite

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I would have loved that

 

Agreed, the reverse would have been much nicer in terms of story.

 

I know that quests shouldn't be smth that could be rushed through in 5 mins, so I greatly support the idea of having cutscenes. Another good thing about cutscenes is that it gives the players image that what was happening in the said places or times. However, this case cannot be applied here.
You are dragged into a barrier box where you can see nothing but 13 dialogues. Wtf is happening fam, am I knocked out or actually riding a horse? I would like it if Eppo says "Yeah go there and I will explain everything, the coords is in ur book" instead of... THAT cutscene...
All others in terms of gameplay is fine, I like puzzles in that quest, especially the ice melting part

In terms of lore:
Fate of the Fallen sort of introduced Theorick as a jerk to others but he loves the people in Nessak region, and he worked for fighting the corrupt. Even though he fails to kill the beast in the portal (which I think is corrupter of worlds), he froze the land to prevent the corruption from spreading to Nessak... He is a good person, right?
Gained 5 more lvls later...
Eppo: Yo dude, Theorick is a greedy asshole, yeh he is a fucking dick too, look he froze the land and killed many... (everything that is blaming Theorick)
WTF?
I don't have the ability to talk to NPCs, if I really can, I would say that "Theorick isn't an asshole at all, if he doesn't froze the land, you guys must had died of corruption" But I can't right?
Just come on, the people (or person) who made this quest, yeah, shows how skillful you guys are in terms of command blocks, but I wanna ask, wtf do you guys wanna do with Theorick's lore? His lore is okay in Lusuco Library/FotF/Ice Barrows/cib(maybe?) but this quest kinda screw up the lore about him.

Frost Bitten was bad? Yes, it was bad, but it doesn't screw up lores like this. It was like some random dude asks you for help and you help him. Nothing do with the actual lore, right?

Yes and look at this dialogue:

And he fell into a trap. Also see here, the reward is a pair of leggings. Those people wear leggings on their head? Nice clothing style

Yeah, and why the heck can a quest ends like THIS? Eppo fell into traps and that's all? Come on, no, just no, -100/10 ending. Why aren't we gonna save Eppo anyway?

Taproot is fine, Finding the Light is an okay fetch quest, RoL doesn't even have an ending...

For a story which doesn't have an ending, I would say that's the worst.

This quest says that "Yeh Theorick is a fucking dick he is bad" which is completely fine for me, since there are other quests which do the similar thing (DnD part 3-4, Corrupted Betrayal, RoL which is worse) but the lore is just meh. The gameplay is way better which is a really good thing (ty mods or CTs or whoever made the quest) but it sorta messes up the lore about Theorick.

 

you fail to see this is what most of the quests in the game are like

 

We already know you spend your time mindlessly bashing everything in the game.