Warrior/Knight Help A Challenging Build

Can someone make me a build that only someone with half a stack of le could buy (unnecessary but for the challenge I guess)? No mythics or LI nor hive master (lower hive is ok) and no FF because that is exhausting to go through, and health should be above 10000 and dmg dps should at least be 7k and there also should be some spell dmg in there, it may be impossible but is anyone up for it? Thanks!

 

i'm confused, do you want a melee build or a hybrid build or what, do you want mana?

 

I want a tanky build with good dmg and spell dmg (dmg from spells) also what do you mean by hybrid mana/tank or spell/tank?

 

hybrid: utilizes mana steal to cast spells (most damage focused on spells)
spell: utilizes mana regen to cast spells (most damage focused on spells)
melee: utilizes attack speed to deal damage (well, it's possible to have non-tier stack melee, but it's weird) (most damage focused on melee, usually low mana sustain)

so basically, the question is, do you want mana in your build

 

Yeah I think I'll want a mana build if you can manage to give it all the attributes above

 

0 int meme
https://wynndata.tk/s/pni1g3

but wait its actually good
Playstyle is like lunar except you don't have -mr

 

here is essentially build form @Madkurre

https://wynndata.tk/s/3VtAKb

except replaced LI and some stuff

or some alternate versions

https://wynndata.tk/s/1lLZPE

(at the time i wrote this, op only said no gigabyte, not ff)

 

Is there a replacement for that Boreal? Also will this build break when 1.18 comes out? Also you bypassed the idea of no FF as you put a Wick so maybe replace that with something else

 

I don't think any of those items are being nerfed as far as is known.

 

Ok lemme get this straight. U want hp, elemental defences, seven thousand dps WITHOUT tier stacking AND int + mana WITH spell damage. The only weapons off the top of my head that can do the 7k dps + insane spell are ofc the big three. Cata gma and divzer yet u r only willing to spend 32le no hive li whatsoever which is literally a must in every effective end game build on top of that u r too lazy to run ff which offers a ton of necessary gear to make the three weapons mentioned effective or even capable of achieving ur dmg requirements eg. discharge

 

@Madkurre I feel like you had a Stinger build somewhere that gets 7k melee, 9k bombs, 10k hp?

 

no fucking clue what youre talking about but i tried a quick full damage and i guess yeah defs suck and you only get about 40 agi also no mana but that you might be able to fix with some readjustments

 

“Good spell dmg”
“9k bombs”
lol

 

OP requested "there should also be some spell dmg in there"

9k bombs is perfectly acceptable spell damage.

 

Depending on the weapon, element, and build itself 9k bombs is fine. 10k bombs is the expected average outside of mythics (as it seems to be an easy rule of thumb), but it still depends on the build itself for what the damage should be. For example, I would expect infused hive bow earth powdered in a build to get higher damage than that of a gale's force build, wouldn't you?

 

What is expected bomb average for mythic then?

 

There really isn't any when it comes to archer mythics collectively, since they all vary in terms of damage. In the best builds I have seen/made, typically (not including powder specials) spring/ignis do around 10-11k+, strati usually does 11-12k+, freedom does 12k-13k+, and divzer+gma do ridiculous amounts (usually above 15k+, if not even much higher than that). Az just exists. However, if you exclude divzer+gma, then the average is around 11k-11.5k ish bombs.

 

Last i checked glass divzer is 28k with 130k arrowstorms max and glass gma 24-5k without rage with like 500k quake lol but i think the quake dmg is a bug but still 500k

 

divzer 30.5k max bombs and 147.5k max bombs

also, we're not supposed to be talking max damage, but rather in a real, functional build. to answer your question as to "what's average mythic damage", it's weird, because different elements do drastically different damages. for example, if i asked you what's average damage for spin attack, it would be hard to conjure up an answer. if i had to say, average damage for a mythic bow is 13k (not including az because it's for an entire different level range)

so, to address your point about 9k (well, it turned out to be 9.5k) bombs being bad, keep in mind this is
-the earth element, which generally isn't geared towards spell builds and more of melee
-nonmythic, so damage probably isn't high
9.5k bombs isn't really that horrible considering that with a standard agi earth build (pisces anti static elder oak roots capricorn), alka cometflinger hits about the same damage.

so, if we were talking mythics here, yes, 9.5k bombs would be bad, but we're not, and the op even banned mythics so (also why are we talking about stinger again this is warrior/knight

 

Glass builds are the new best I guess.