Wynn Mods

Is wynntils worth it?
Is wynn inventory management worth it?
Is wynn expansion worth it?

Use poll

 

What is the point of this thread?

 

I wanna know what to use as my wynn modpack *Im allready using one*

 

A poll is probably a good idea.

 

Couldn't you just have asked normally instead of using this weird format?

 

I like the mod called "vanilla"

 

I recommend Wynntils (T). It's up to date with a bunch of useful features!!! And lots of other features are on the way too. There will be a mini map too later ;]

 

yeah and also they ban for it...

 

bump10char So what do I choose?

 

I too enjoy experiencing life to the fullest by depriving myself of readily available quality of life improvements such as being vaccinated and using electricity for the simple fact that that's not how life was meant to be played.

 

that was a mistake on jp's part and the mod isn't actually bannable
I personally use both wynntills and expansion
I don't use inv management cuz I used it once and got kinda confused and am too lazy to try again

 

I too enjoy deliberately breaking the game's features for myself, having unfair advantages, occasionally breaking the server's rules and having the risk of my personal data being stolen

 

I too enjoy these flame wars.

 

never heard of it, could I get a download link please?

 

Ah yes, I completely agree, seeing as wynntils doesn't share its data with jp, so he can check if any of it is being unrightfully used, as well as checking weather or not its breaking any rules or giving unfair advantages.
It also isn't checked or used by 2 admins, a lot of gm's and the totally cheating moderates.

 

Wynn’s meant to be played vanilla, and that’s how the staff recommends it be used.
And with item locks coming next update, I’d say there is no reason to use a modpack.
If you want to use one, wynnexpansion has lots of features, is very stable, and has no surrounding drama.

 

Yes, game breaking features such as knowing the rarity of an item while it's on the ground, which had only gone on for about two years before it had come to the staff's attention. If only they had been more observant earlier, they could have stopped such disgusting and repulsive behavior sooner. Sigh. Anyway, you're completely right. I just cannot believe people would have the audacity to try to access, get this, public information, in game. Or, here, having item locks, a feature that was even added into the game itself! Do these people have no shame? And, gasp, I can hardly bear to say it, but the world must know of this absolutely horrific behavior occurring right under their noses. These people have...have...CUSTOM QUESTBOOKS!!!!!! THEY CAN SEE THEIR QUEST LOG, WITHOUT EVEN HAVING TO OPEN THE BOOK. faints. I just can't comprehend how this has been allowed even now. How blind and selfish must people be to have these OVERWHELMING advantages over the small percentage of people who cannot readily access this code of Satan and not feel anything? Truly, a modern tragedy.

 

Don't make a poll if you can't take people's opinions.

 

Alright, let me clear a few things up, now that you've drawn a dozen conclusions out of nothing.

Not sure if you've noticed, but wynntils isn't the only wynn mod out there, which you seem to be heavily basing your arguments on.

Actually, wynntils allowed players to duplicate items, which is why older versions of the mod were and still are banned. I don't know why you'd blame JP for an exploit performed through third party content.

I have no idea how GMs relate to this, but I'd like to see any kind of proof on that claim... Oh right, there isn't. So far it's been stated by nearly every admin, that you should play Wynn with a vanilla client for the safest and optimal experience. As for checking, sure, a few mods' surfaces might have been checked due to reports, but I'm pretty sure that JP can't dedicate 24 hours of every single day doing an extensive look into every single crevice of every single mod. You should also note, that the whole point of Wynn is to be fair, and not require any separate content. There is no way that the people in charge of the game's development would recommend anyone to use something unintended, when even being tolerated is a luxure for mods.

Actually, by "game breaking" I meant mods that actually make parts of the game uncompletable. This can vary anywhere from block updates not rendering correctly to completely overriding or breaking vanilla features that Wynn needs to function. Take for example optifine making signs unusable, causing crashes and not registering updates for necessary things such as doors or other animations. As for Wynn mod specifics, a lot of mods replace Wynn's vanilla aspects with self-made alternatives, and often don't realize that something crucial is missing. Sure, a few mods allow you to toggle these features on and off, but it's unlikely that an active mod user would be aware of things being missing, if they never even witnessed their existence.

As a former QA, I can say that there have been way too many reports made of issues, which are caused by third party content, not the server. These clutter the section, and slow down fixing actual important issues.

And as for people being able to see what dropped items are, that's not a gamebreaking feature. That's an unfair advantage to everyone who doesn't use mods, hence the ability for mods to take advantage of it was disabled.

Actually, I referred to things such as unknowingly downloading unwanted malware, forcing mod users to connect to Wynn through an unofficial proxy server, or snooping files on your computer. As examples of these, take optifine's security breach a while back, or the whole fiasco with WynnEnhanced.



At this point, I'm not even sure whether this is a bad attempt of trolling, or an attempt to create a flamewar for no reason, in which case congratulations, you achieved your goal. This is what you should expect when you endorce people to harm Wynn and break features.

As a personal opinion, it's completely fine to use any mods you like, as long as you know the issues they cause, they don't break the server's rules, and you take responsibility of using them. Even I use mods; A lot of them actually. Even ones mentioned above. This does not mean I should trash on people who aren't exactly like me.

 

I didn't look deeply into the matter so I hope you'll forgive me for drawing conclusions.

I've personally never encountered any of these problems so again I hope that you'll forgive me for having been able to, like many others, make my life on Wynn much easier through the use of mods.

By that logic should we get rid of universities too because its unfair to the people who don't have enough money/good enough grades to attend? :eyes:

I can't say much about the other two claims but hey, my computer still works after like a year of using enhanced so idrc tbh. However, I don't get why people are still citing this argument in regards to enhanced being all evil and stuff. I think it been thoroughly proven that play.wynncraft.org used to be owned by Wynn and was not renewed and purchased by a third party (unless this isn't what you're talking about)

and if you do a quick search in the Wynn discord you'll see tons of people saying play.wynncraft.org when asked what the ip address is. In addition, it's not as though you couldn't change this. In fact, it was incredibly easy to do so. I too had begun to have trouble connecting but instead of complaining and claiming I was being hacked, I just asked around, found out that .org no longer worked and changed it to .net instead. Then I happily continued to use enhanced until it was banned.

anyway, when people constantly bring up this sort of argument (which afaik is incorrect and proven to be so several times over) it also calls into question the credibility of your other claims, which I'm not saying I know anything about, but seeing as how (afaik) you've been wrong about this specific situation, who's to say your other arguments aren't equally misinformed?

At this point, I'm rather confused at what you're trying to say? You began by saying you preferred the mod called vanilla, yet now you're saying you use a lot of mods, including the ones you just condemned for being game breaking? All I wanted to do was point out the folly in suggesting that vanilla Wynn is more enjoyable than modded Wynn in a joking manner because from my own experience, as well as that of many of my friends, that is entirely false. From the very first moment I first installed wynn enhanced to even now, I had not the smallest inkling of desire to play without mods. I personally cannot relate to any of the problems you've presented (perhaps because I'd forgotten them because they'd have been insignificant at worst) and wholly believe that the benefits and quality of life improvements from mods vastly outweigh any trouble they may cause.