Li Boss Info

Druser · Dec 1, 2018

Looking for info on the LI bosses, particularly HP and spells/damage (elemental info is already on a thread somewhere).

(@YYGAYMER do you have this burned into your brain? :P )

YYGAYMER · Dec 1, 2018

Druser said: ↑

Looking for info on the LI bosses, particularly HP and spells/damage (elemental info is already on a thread somewhere).

(@YYGAYMER do you have this burned into your brain? :P )
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wtf
@Selvut283

by2011 · Dec 1, 2018

Druser said: ↑

Looking for info on the LI bosses, particularly HP and spells/damage (elemental info is already on a thread somewhere).

(@YYGAYMER do you have this burned into your brain? :P )
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after years of research, i have determined the following:
yahyabot (final phase) 1 hp

H0Y · Dec 1, 2018

by2011 said: ↑

after years of research, i have determined the following:
yahyabot (final phase) 1 hp
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Must have taken a long 6 minutes to find out his health. I thank you for your sacrifice.

seeksery · Dec 1, 2018

Souce @Selvut283's answer in https://forums.wynncraft.com/threads/balancing-issues-with-li.202358/#post-2444209 (this by no means has complete set of stats for every enemy, but still contains useful information):
EDIT: used the information to make a more concise list + did some math with percentages to find raw values

Known Information:
Accipientus:
First form: 4000-4800 damage, attack rate 1
Second form: 4000-4800 damage, attack rate 1, 180% meteor
Fourth form: 2000-2400 damage, attack rate 2, arrow storm

Matrojan:
First form: 5000-6000 damage, attack rate 1, 50% flamethrower, 65% flamethrower
Third form: 5000-6000 damage, attack rate 1, pull, 12% multihit, 15% multihit, 18% multihit
Fourth form: charge
Fifth form: % charge
Ninth form: 2500-3000 damage, attack rate 2, 0% multihit, 1% multihit, 2% multihit, 4% multihit, 8% multihit, 16% multihit, 32% multihit, % charge
Tenth form: % charge

Yahya:
5000-6000 damage

Mechorruptor:
First form: 350-700 damage, attack rate (20 times a second), 80/11% multihit, 100/11% multihit
Second form: 350-700 damage, attack rate (20 times a second), 90/11% multihit, 100/11% multihit

Bob:
First form: 1600-7200 damage, 150% charge, 200% charge
Second form: 1600-7200 damage, 80-160 each elemental damage, 15% multihit, 20% multihit, 25% multihit, flamethrower

Dr:
First form: 2000-4000 damage, attack rate (3 times a second), 50% flamethrower, teleport, charge
Second form: 4000-5000 damage, attack rate 2, 25% multihit
Third form: 3000-6000 damage, attack rate 2, 125% charge, 150% charge, 175% charge, 200% charge, 125% meteor, 150% meteor, 175% meteor, 200% meteor
Bomb: 1000-9999 damage

Shots · Dec 2, 2018

https://forums.wynncraft.com/thread...boss-and-screenshots-for-most-of-them.191092/
Some of them are missing, but iirc the final of Accipientis has only air defense, final phase idol is rainbow def (maybe damage to), and 2nd phase Doc Legendary has air weakness and thunder/earth/water defense (I forget damages).

Off the top of my head iirc these are for spells.

Mummyboard: Flamethrower, Push, Tp (blind), Slow, Weaken
^Minions: None

Virus Doc: Tp (blind), Slow, Weaken
^Minions have mutli-hit, suicide strike, and possibly slow/weaken

Corkus: 1st phase has charge/slow (possibly weaken), 2nd phase has heal/tp (I don't think it's blinding but it might be)/meteor, 3rd has multi-hit/charge (damage), 4th has push/arrow storm, 5th has push/charge (damage).
^Minions: None (I think, but it should be noted that each phase does damage of their respective element and has defense of that respective element)

Idol: 1st phase has flamethrower, 2nd has meteor (maybe pull), 3rd has vanish/multi-hit (maybe pull), 4th has charge (not damaging)/pull, 5th has charge (damage)/pull, 6th has push(?)/arrow storm, 7th has tp(blind)/heal, 8th has
actually I don't even know what 8th has
9th has multi-hit/vanish(?), and final has charge (damage)/push/teleport (blind)/heal

Yahya has charge pretty much the entire time and that's it, but he does have arrow storm in the pillars room.

Death Metal has multi-hit/push(?)
^CB and Guardian both have charge, alkevo has suicide strike, polar might have arrow storm, witch doc might have slow/weaken, and the fire dude that I always misspell has meteor.

CoW has pull (or it might've been push I forget)/multi-hit

Bob has charge (damage)/flamethrower/I believe he gets multi-hit on his second phase
^Water sword has heal, Fire sword has flamethrower, Earth has slowness, and either thunder or air has multi-hit while the other has suicide strike

Cybel: Charge (Damage)/Meteor/Suicide Strike (Only phases 2 and 4)/Push
^Cores have suicide strike/flamethrower (phase 1)/pull (phase 2 or it might be both)
^Wybel minions have heal

Doc: Flamethrower/meteor/charge (forget if it does damage or not)/maybe push/pull, 2nd phase has Multi-hit/vanish/charge, and third phase as tp (blind)/meteor/charge (damage)/push
^minions have suicide strike

For hp I forget most of them, but ones I can think of off the top of my head are the following iirc

Corkus: Pretty sure all of them have around 120k-150k hp outside of the final phase which has ~80k hp.
Matrojan: I try to slaughter it as fast as possible so I don't pay attention, but I think phase 9 has 60k hp but Ik final has 50k.
Yahya: 1 mil until final which is 1hp ofc
Mecho CoW: First phase has 250k, second has 350k.
Bob: Pretty sure it's the same for Mecho CoW except flip flopped (so 350k for first phase and 250k for second).
Cybel: ~150k for 1st and 3rd phases, 1 mil for 2nd and 4th, and ~275k-300k for final.
Doc: I think 1st has 250k.

Don't take my word on it though because some of it is almost definitely wrong.

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SeeksarianZxSery said: ↑

Quoting @Selvut283 answer in https://forums.wynncraft.com/threads/balancing-issues-with-li.202358/#post-2444209 (this by no means has complete set of stats for every enemy, but still contains useful information):

Accipientus:
The second form "dealing too much damage" is incorrect, as it has the exact same 4000-4800 damage as the first form. Its Meteor spell inflicts 150% damage, so 6000-7200. This is the first time I've seen anyone complain about a form other than the Arrow Storm robot, but that one being so overpowered is due to a bug where Arrow Storm ignores spell damage modifiers and deals 100% damage per arrow. On that form, I halved its damage and doubled its attack rate in order to try and combat this somewhat, though.

Matrojan:
Only the first form uses Flamethrower. The spell deals 50% or 65% damage per hit, so either 2500-3000 damage per hit or 3250-3900 damage per hit.
The third and ninth forms use Multihits, but the ninth form has a fairly weak one as it's a "panic mode" for the boss. Since the boss has its base damage reduced and its attack rate increased, its spells become weaker to reflect this.
Third Form's Multihits deals either 12%, 15%, or 18% damage 11 times, so either 6600-7920, 8250-9900, or 9900-11880 total damage. Yes, that's a very high amount! But, you fail to take into account the fact that Multihits is a very short-ranged attack, its Pull gives you time to move, and the form moves fairly slowly, meaning if you get hit by that spell, that's your own fault.
Ninth Form's Multihits deals 0/1/2/4/8/16/32% damage, and its base damage is halved due to its attack rate of 2, so it can deal 0-0, 250-300, 500-600, 1000-1200, 2000-3000, 4000-4800, or 8000-9600 damage. Seeing as it has this massive range and players are still easily capable of dodging this form's attacks due to how far it can be knocked back and an escapable pull reaction, I still see no problem with this.
The fourth and fifth forms use primarily Charge, though the ninth and tenth forms can use it as well. Only the ninth form combines it with Multihits, mentioned above, and not with timing such that you can't avoid it.
Its regen is constant throughout forms; if it's a problem in the early forms it should be a problem in the later forms, shouldn't it?

Yahya:
He inflicts 5000-6000 damage per hit. That's low? Warrior's neutral immunity is irrelevant here as that is a glitch that will be fixed. Jumping on a horse to avoid attacks has never worked for me; I still take damage when the enemies rush by. This fight is meant to be a slight breather between the Matrojan Idol and Death Metal.

Mechorrupter:
So 7000-14000 DPS in the first form and 8000-20000 dps in the second form, both at inescapably fast movement speed, is weak, noted for future reference. Seriously; his damage per second is utterly demoralizing, and it traps you in place for his Multihits which only compounds onto that, inflicting 80%/100% in the first form and 90%-100% in the second, so 3080-6160/3850-7700, or 3960-9900/4400-11000 damage. His element weaknesses are even less pronounced than Death's, and IMPROVE in his second form. This is just another "oh warrior is glitched and immune to neutral, hurr hurr game 2 ez" situation.

Bob:
The Mechorrupter inflicts mass DPS over a ton of rapid hits, but this guy does burst damage. 1600-7200, with a 150/200% Charge(2400-10800/3200-14400)isn't exactly anything to sneeze about. This increases in his second form to 2000-8000 damage, with a majority of that being neutral and elements getting only a minor feature(that extra 400-800) to take advantage of any weaknesses you might have. He loses the 150-200% damage spells, since he now uses multi hitting spells like Multihits and Flamethrower which everyone seems to have a problem with. They deal 15/20/25% damage, so on that Multihits, that's 3300-13200/4400-17600/5500-22000 damage!!! How is that worse damage, especially seeing as he still moves faster than the player, can slow you down, and doesn't take knockback unlike the Mechorrupter?

Dr:
First Form has the dreaded Flamethrower that everyone can't stand, and it deals 50% damage(1000-2000), and it's up nearly constantly in addition to his usual projectiles, of which he shoots three per second. The Teleports and Charges keep him constantly moved around the arena, and come out super quickly. Since he's ranged it helps him keep you at the distance where he can hit you most effectively, s well as closing the gap to those running away.
Second Form goes melee, with an attack rate of 2. In addition to once again moving faster than the player and taking hardly any knockback, his Multihits inflicts 25% damage(11000-13750), which is pretty well a oneshot to a lot of players. The Cybel's attacks deal less than this on average, so...
Third Form returns to ranged attacks, keeping the attack rate of 2. He swaps out his multihit attacks for burst damage, where his Meteor and Charge can inflict 125%/150%/175%/200% damage(3750-7500/4500-9000/5250-10500/6000-12000). He also often will use Push to shove you away into more optimal shooting range, and into the Detonators, which inflict 1000-9999 damage with their Self-Destruct. Unlike how you say, the bombs detonate on their own; they have a 7 second timer. Since there's so many of them around the arena constantly, it's quite likely he'll shove you into them multiple times with Push.
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heck I've been bamboozled

Druser · Dec 2, 2018

Nice to know that only one phase of Matrojan has flamethrower - a few early arrow storms and the rest of the fight might be a little better.

Druser · Dec 4, 2018

I'm going to begin answering the health part by analyzing Youtube videos and estimating,

Mummyboard - 200k first phase, 225k second phase
Virus Doctor - 200k first phase, 230k second phase
Corkus Accipientis - 150k first four phases, 100k last phase (more than Qira)
-- Shift-O-Bots have ~10k per phase and seem to go Fire>Water>Thunder>Earth>Air>Rainbow
Matrojan Idol - 170k, 160k, 150k, 140k, 130k, 120k, 110k. 100k, 75k, 50k (I suppose it seems shorter to me because I can spam Arrow Storm without having to worry about ranged attacks)
YahyaBot - N/A
Death Metal - 200k first phase, 200k second phase
- - RAR.gaddon (90k), Metalkevo (200k), Antivirus (170k), Wired Beast (150k), Virus Doctor (75k), Snow Malware (60k?)
Mechorrupter of Worlds - 250k first phase, 350k second phase
Robob's Reinvention - 350k first phase, 250k second phase
Orange Cybel - 130k first phase, 140k third phase, 270k fifth phase (second and fourth phase being endurance-based)
Doctor Legendary - 250k all three phases

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