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  1. the drink

    the drink penguin gang CHAMPION

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    Hey.

    So here I'm going to critique as many quests as I can.

    Maybe the CTs can get something from this. Maybe you can get a laugh from me nitpicking to death Grian's life work SCP style.

    Whatever the case. Here we go

    PS: This is in no specific order. I add it as I damn so please.

    This quest is nice. The story is good, what it adds to the whole WynnExcavation scene is pretty cool. The gameplay is fun, even the fetchy parts are a bit nice. The Void Village has so much potential in the way of things and with the addition of Voidstone it might become even better. Nothing feels wasted or shoved in just to meet the minimum time span.

    The only critique I have of this is that it makes the whole Sky Islands lore way more fucked up and confusing especially with The Fortuneteller. I mean there is no established canon but cmon.

    8/10

    Considering its getting revamped I still want this here for new players to see how terrible this was.

    The story is all over the place, the stage transitions have no meaning and almost feel shoved in. It's fetchy, it's cliche. The story holds no sentimental value and makes Lexdale a worthless town. It starts off with a holy group being at peace, then some dudes shoving off to go join a Generic Satan cult. Nagarath is so underdeveloped and glitchy, and inconsistent it's laughable. For someone who could destroy Gavel itself he's so underwhelming its stupid. His lines are cliche and generic villain lines, the magic words are.... no. just stop it.

    0/10. This quest should've been fixed way back in the Gameplay Update.

    This has to be the best introduction-to-a-province quest ever made. Everything is well put together. The technic theme was well executed. The primary antagonistic threat is interesting and goes away from "Corruption/Darkness/Random boss in the middle of nowhere in gavel" in a nice way. Maxie's actions and lines did a really good job at introducing us to the main threat. He felt less like a "stand-there npc" and more like a companion as time went on. While he was quite awkward commonly apologizing for his ineptitude at electromagic, it wasn't really anything so horribly noticeable about him. The introductory part where the Delegate shows us everything we need to know is short, precise, and informative. The Avos lore feels a bit scuffy but that can be changed with ease and so much more expanded upon. Part 2's ending gives Maxie more potential for the future and doesn't just throw him away within an instant. The Supercomputer is funny, pretty interesting, and his character is put together very well, even if it was a bit "haha you're the bad guy" at the end.

    9/10. I want more.

    This quest has so much potential to be the best ever. It was made a long time ago and its long standing. Back before Gavel it was a pretty good climax to the game. But now.... it's underwhelming.

    Making you go across the ocean in search of his animals isn't exactly fun and all. Bob's lore has so much to it that we've discovered since Tantibus made Fantastic Voyage that I feel like this needed an update earlier. It's annoying that you need three people to even get inside the Tomb. The quest doesn't exactly make a lot of sense in some places, and I feel like its almost gapped.

    4/10. It was made for a different Wynncraft time. But right now it isn't the best.

    Alright let's split this up.

    The first Quest was cool. It introduced us to some heavy lore that we haven't gotten into yet. It was a bit fetchy, but it started us off nicely. 6/10 for that one.

    Finding the Light was fetchy, most likely Aldorei-sponsored, and unnecessary. It made no sense that just to get into the damn place that you have to go across Cinfras, rescue a child, threaten to kill a gardener into giving back a diary, and give medicine to an old guy, also, make some glasses that will let you go in. The Guardian of the Forest is a cliche old good guy that's been asleep for millennia and starts crying over all the missed news even though it most certainly would not give a shit about. 3/10

    The Realm of Light..... no. This quest was literally just a walking simulator with some corruption themed bosses shoved in. For the highlight of Gavel, this is a horribly underwhelming quest. It starts off; inhuman gods are in trouble, Deus ex Machina (the player) is immune to whatever the hell is killing them off, he grabs a random seed, gets attacked by a dog, thrown into another village, told about an omnipotent god that got corrupted by greed, and is now locked up. After a lot of fetching, a lot of walking, and a lot of bad bosses, we're at the end. Orphion's Seal. YES! We get to fight what may be the strongest boss ever! After all of that bad questing, this may be the good part!

    the dungeon isnt even out.
    2/10

    Overall, questline is 5/10

    Here we go.

    WynnExcavation Site A was mild and short. It was one of those random quests that didn't make sense at first. A random Excavation company unraveling a tomb, and a massive yellow crystal inside. 6/10

    Site B was the real shocker portion. We started off perhaps just being a helper to WE, then as we reach the waterfall, it all begins to go strange. We're pushed off, with the Excavator angrily saying we'll regret our actions at A. And deep in the cavern, we're greeted with such a sight; a large number of miners, golems, and archaic and ancient magic sightings around. It's clear whatever we just found; it's something that's going to affect the entire province. The final warning, that all Four Crystals will grant infinite power and that they are almost unstoppable leaves us curious and frightened. 8/10.

    Site C made us realize how severe of a problem we had just gotten into. The meeting showed off that this company had relations with something we had heard of very rarely: The Eye. It's claim of that most of the Crystals had already been secured made the severity of this situation grow further. Deeper within; we meet Amadel, the only friendly face we've seen. Amadel has valuable info, and he seems to be a good ally to have. At the end, the new threat calls out; They have nigh unlimited resources. They're not a company, they're a secret society, they have complete control over the royalty of Wynn and Gavel, and they are out to get us.

    Site D, oh boy. This quest is the highlight of Wynn. Everything gets more and more shocking It's gone from simply "Hey kid, wanna make some money?" to "Race to stop people who already control the World and its Resources from becoming omnipotent". The King confirms that they are in complete control of the Provinces, and now the player is being charged for treason. As we leave, a lone Guard warns us that the city is under lockdown, and the entire Troms military unit in the city is hunting us. The fight was lackluster though, and I feel like the guards chasing you were less of a challenge and more of a chance to fuck around with them in the environment of a locked down Troms, after getting out, and heading to the Dernel Jungle, we're reunited with our friend and meet new faces. As you find the final Crystal's location, you're met with a discovery message noting that WE is already here, and if they merge all four, they will become unstoppable. As we reach the Final Crystal, we see our supposed friends; the anti WE group actually with the society. Deeper within, pieces of lore that had not been answered yet are answered. In the ancient city, the basement. Oh god, so much more is answered. The final fight is a bit lackluster and such, but it's nice. 9/10.

    Overall, 8/10. This could've been done way worse, but you managed to keep it decent, even back before Gavel. Without it we'd have massive holes in the lore.

    This quest is nice. Not amazing, but nice. The challenges are fun in some aspects, being the new Sky Queen has some interesting prospects for the future, and the reward is cool.

    My favorite part was the mansion, though. The stealth aspect is always welcome. Though I'm not sure it was executed well compared to Kingdom of Sand, but stealth is stealth.

    I'd say 6/10. Isn't memorable but you won't groan and sigh when you have to come back here to do it again on another class.

    This was a pretty cool quest as well. It used that new animation of creating mobs (Slingra), it did shed some light on how the province kept itself alive when Bob and the Twains weren't around.

    The Realm of Darkness part was absolutely cool as well. It's always nice and fun to see parts of the lore we have never seen yet or are being obscured vastly.

    7/10

    This is another random quest that makes next to no sense and exacerbates the whole mess of SI Lore exponentially. It doesn't really start off well, with a random villager wanting treasure and sending you off to somewhere-land.

    The castle is just a "random kingdom place ayy lmao" that is completely wasted. That part with the quiz..... no. stop.

    The beanstalk looks cool but if you have walkspeed or fuck up in any sort of fashion you have to go throw more beans, or get more beans from the guy in the castle.

    That last part with the dragon.... stop. He had no clue that the human would be coming for treasure, and if he had been watching for so long, then he should've seen the human wake up the Guardian, try and fix the decay, help the Gertens out, etc. and not call him greedy and shit.

    The book's message is just useless, considering we can get 2 le out of it.

    3/10

    More to come. If this makes you a bit mad that I ripped into some of them, good. You listen to critique better when someone digs their nails into it.
     
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  2. Druser

    Druser ele defs don't matter HERO Featured Wynncraftian

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    but you only need two people and a horse to get into Bob's Tomb
     
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  3. CoolVictor2002

    CoolVictor2002 Dead meme expert,cyberbullied by NicBOMB CHAMPION

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    LOL you did have to threaten to kill that dousche!
     
  4. tig

    tig "Because EO parkour killed my grandma, OK???"

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    I'm gonna do a CinemaSins style criticism on these cuz why the fuck not. Let me know if you want me to do more of the quests.

    Level 1

    Kings Recruit
    • Caravan Driver: Finally, you're awake! Everyone already went on ahead.
    So why didn't you wake me up? Im sure the king is a busy guy ffs. +1 Sin
    • Caravan Driver: This is as far as we go, right to the border.
    Why didn't you lose your memory when you crossed the border? +1
    • Caravan Driver: The King is waiting for you in Ragni. That gate marks the entrance to the Wynn Province, so the castle can't be too far from here.
    • Caravan Driver: I heard it's a dangerous road to the castle, but fortunately you're armed.
    With the worst weapon of the game. +1
    • Caravan Driver: Sorry we couldn't take you all the way, here is a partial refund for the journey. Use it to buy yourself some armour.
    +3 Emeralds and +1 Potion, I guess potions can buy armor. +1

    Later...

    "Hey recruit. If you free me I'll kill mobs so you can get less xp!" +1

    • Ragni's King: I see you've arrived safely, new recruit. Excellent, come and talk to me for debriefing.
    How did he see me coming into the castle around the corner? does he have X-Ray vision? +1

    • Ragni's King: You must be the last recruit! Finally nice to meet you.
    It's not my fault I took so long btw. +1
    • What did you say your name was?
    • Ragni's King: What a peculiar name. Anyway, welcome to the province of Wynn!
    • Ragni's King: This is the noble fort of Ragni, one of the oldest and most influential cities in the province!
    • Ragni's King: Your job as a soldier of Wynn is to stop the growth of the monsters that are ravaging the province.
    Or just abuse CSST over in Gavel. +3
    • Ragni's King: You might want to train a little more before hand, though. Many lives are lost everyday...
    But we can come back by killing what killed us right? +1
    • Ragni's King: ... Anyway, good luck! If you are lost, use map.wynncraft.com
    This line Always makes me laugh, probs because it's advertizing a cite in a medieval style game. -2
    • as it is very useful if you don't know where to go.
    • Ragni's King: Take this 1 Ragni Teleportation Scroll too! It will bring you back here if you use it.
    Of course I won't bother telling you that it uses 1 Soul Point. +1
    Also this scroll doesn't stack with other Ragni scrolls and isn't accepted in Tower of Amnesia. +1

    Sin Count 11
    Quest Rating 8/10
    Enzan's Brother
    • Enzan: I see you want to venture into the wilderness!
    I guess walking by the front gate means I want to go into the wilderness. +1
    • Enzan: My name is Enzan, and I am now a retired knight. I've spent most of my life fighting for Ragni's army, just like you.
    • Enzan: I know how hard it must be to be a recruit at this time,
    Do you though? +1
    • so I've got something that could help you!
    Lies. +1
    • Well, I don't have it, but my brother does!
    Admitting to your treacherous lies. +1
    • Enzan: Follow this road, he's at the entrance of the Nivla Forest,
    I bet any random new recruit knows what the Nivla Forest is. +1

    • you can't miss him. Just head to the end of the trail, past the item identifier.
    I bet any random new recruit knows what the Item Identifier is. +1
    • Enzan: Tell him I sent you! He can be such a jerk to strangers sometimes...
    • Therck: Can't you see I'm busy?
    Random guy walks by* Can't you see I'm busy? +1
    Hi, I'm Therk, and I'm an asshole. +1
    • Therck: Oh, my brother? Sorry, I didn't know.
    Unless ofcourse my brother sent you +1
    • Therck: Why yes, I actually have something that could help you...
    • Therck: Take this note. Bring it to the merchant right behind you.
    When facing the Nivla Forest while talking to Therck which is probs the way you are facing because that's how you approach him, the Merchant is actually to your right. +1
    • Therck: He owes me some favors.
    He owes me enough favors to give every single player that has ever logged in some powders. +1
    • So, he will exchange it for a magical powder of your choice.
    • Therck: You can enchant your weapon and armour with it, making them much more powerful!
    • Therck: Now, you'll need a Powder Master to apply powders,
    I bet any random new recruit knows what the Powder Master is. +1
    • but there's one at the end of the forest...
    He's actually closer to the middle. +1
    • Therck: So... eh, you can't miss him.
    Yes you can. +1
    • You're probably headed through the Nivla Forest now, aren't you?
    No. +1
    • Therck: It's a bit dangerous, but the big city of Detlas is past there, so good luck going through!
    Ugh 2 Step quests +2

    Sin Count 17 How did I get 17 sins from a 2 step quest?
    Quest Rating 2/10

    Level 2

    Poisoning the Pest
    • Farmer Cevalus: Ah, looks like a fresh recruit!
    What if I'm not actually new? +1
    • Farmer Cevalus: Good to see the army growing again. About time someone in the army had time for us citizens.
    You sound like a dick. +1
    • Farmer Cevalus: We have to fight the corruption too you know!
    Come talk to me when you leave your farmlife behind and start risking your life while constantly killing undead among other things. +1
    I'm also added 3 Sins right here and now cuz this guy sucks. +3
    • Speaking of which...
    • Farmer Cevalus: Recently, my dear father passed away and I buried him out back. Well, he's not there anymore, the corruption has got to his body.
    • Farmer Cevalus: Corruption affects different things in odd ways. It sometimes reanimates corpses and sets them against the living.
    • Farmer Cevalus: We can't fight him head on - We should use my fresh Corkian sprinklers to poison the pest!
    You didn't think of this until now? +1 And you can't run behind hay stacks and pison water yourself? +1

    I do like the early mention of Corkus tho. -3
    • I have a spare [1 Crate of Rat Poison] aside my house...
    • Farmer Cevalus: If you're able to safely make it inside my farm, my father's animated corpse may use fireballs to kill you... Yes, fireballs. Who knew my father had that in him?
    As you said, corruption effects different things differently. +1
    • Farmer Cevalus: If you poison the water reservoir on the other side of the farm field after you enter, you can watch as the pest makes his way back to the grave!
    "How do you plan on killing an army that is already dead?" -Charon +1

    Now you go poison water that doesn't work for most players. +1

    • Farmer Cevalus: You've must have done something to irritate the pest, because it's furious and more aggressive!
    I would be pretty pissed if somebody posind my water too. +1
    Maybe that's what hes mad about? +1
    • Farmer Cevalus: Hurry and enable the sprinklers with the button near the farm's entrance before it can do any more damage!
    "Hurry and risk your life to save my shitty farm plz!" +1

    TPs you into the floor so that it's a pain to get out unless you do /kill* +3

    • Farmer Cevalus: Great job getting rid of that corrupt varmint, I can't thank you enough!
    He's even a dick to his dead dad .-. +3
    • Farmer Cevalus: You have prevented me from entering poverty
    Shit, I didn't know you where a villager. +1
    • and helped keep down the waves of corrupt monsters roaming this province.
    Yeah this 1 mob will certianly make a huge differense in the corruption war lol. +1
    • Farmer Cevalus: Take this well-deserved reward for the risky actions you took today.
    Sin Count, 19
    Rating, 1/10

    Level 4

    Cook Assistant
    • The Cook: I can't believe what is happening to me!
    • The Cook: The King ordered me to bake cakes for all those new recruits!
    Like, 1 cake each? Damn how fat are we? +1
    • The Cook: Unfortunately I don't have the ingredients to make them, and nobody sells those items in the fort!
    You're a baker and you don't have eggs milk or wheat? Wtf? +1
    Also there are wheat fields fucking everywhere just inside the walls. +1
    • The Cook: You think you could get me [2 Egg], [1 Bucket of Milk] and [3 Wheat] really quickly?
    Go fetch. +3

    • The Cook: Great! You got all the ingredients!
    • The Cook: I can't thank you enough!
    That's the truth. +1
    • Here, take these Emeralds for all your trouble.
    • The Cook: I also have these strange potions. I have no use for them, but I'm sure you do!
    I'm pretty sure no new player gives a damn about, or even knows what the fuck mana potions do, let alone know how to use them right. +2

    Fetch Quest. +5

    Sin Count, 12
    Rating, 1/10

    Level 5

    Spider Cave
    • Hatath: Hello there, young traveler! I can see that you are looking for a challenge.
    What makes you think that? +1
    • Hatath: Well I got one for you. You see, I am looking for a specific plant named "Saccharum"
    • Hatath: I've heard that this cave may contain some!
    "May contain some." +1
    • Unfortunately, it is infested by spiders.
    So is the forest you're standing in. +1
    • Hatath: I am not strong enough to risk this.
    The guard protecting looks strong enough. +1
    • Could you explore this cave and bring me [3 Saccharum] as soon as you can?
    Go fetch. +3

    After dying 5 times you finally get the freaking plant! +1

    • Hatath: Yes, this is exactly what I wanted!
    • Hatath: Thank you for you help. Here, take these emeralds, you deserve them.
    I sure do! +1

    Fetch quest. +5

    Sin Count, 14
    Rating, 1/10







    The Fortuneteller
    • Jill: Oh, a Human! We don't see many of your kind around here.
    • Jill: I hear you people work for cheap, well I might have a little job for you.
    How do you know this about me if my kind isn't around here often? +1
    • Jill: I'd go myself, but why would I when I can hire cheap help?
    • Jill: Theres a lot of green rock to be made here, so listen up.
    This interpretation of emeralds annoys me. +1
    • Jill: One of the oldest surviving structures of the islands is rumoured to have the key to a fortune in it.
    • Jill: It's the stone castle just east of here, along the separation line.
    • Jill: I'm not sure what the "Key" is,
    A key probs. +1
    • but be careful acquiring it, if it was easy, they key would have already been found.
    But it is easy, and it hasn't been found. +1
    • Jill: I'll be here when you get back.
    After doing a lot of useless shit to get some beans... (+1)

    • Jill: You're back! What did you find?
    • Jill: Are these...beans?
    Yes. +1
    • Jill: Is this what you found?
    Still, yes +1
    • No map?
    No. +1
    • Jill: Peh! What a waste of time.
    I guess it's a good thing I was the one that hat to do it .-. +1
    Also, you said you didn't know what the key was anyway. +3
    • This isn't some Fable kid!
    Beans = fable obviously. +1
    • If you want to read fairy tales, go to the library.
    Apparently me bringing back beans means I was pretending this was a fairy tale. +1

    *Asshole tells me to go to the library to go read fables cuz I brought back beans (+1)* "I should go to the library and read a fable!" +1

    *Unskippable Fable* +3

    Take ages to parkour up a beanstalk only to have it shrink at the very end and make you restart +1

    Finally gets up the fucking beanstalk +1

    • Farcor: Ah, another greedy mortal has sought me to enhance their own gains.
    Another mortal? Must be greedy. +1
    • Farcor: Well, you will be sorely disappointed.
    Dissapointed by this quest? Yes. +1
    • I will offer you no such riches.
    We'll see... +1
    • Farcor: If you have found your way here, you must know the story. I left Gavel eons ago.
    • Farcor: I know it wasn't your people who are to blame. But you had your part in the cataclysm.
    Hypocritical much? +1
    • Farcor: I have watched Dogun's fall, the guardian of the forest sleep for a millenia
    The guardian of the forest was only asleep for 200 years. +3 Sins cuz you should know this shit.
    • and the greed of the villagers run rampant.
    Remember that somehow this is my fault. +1
    • Farcor: You shall receive no riches from me, only this book. It reminds me of the days before all this tragedy.
    So I climbed all the way up that damn beanstalk to be treaded like shit by an asshole dragon? +1
    Also, "I will give you no riches, JK I'll give you this book that you can sell for 2 LE lol." +1

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    +20 Sins
    Sin Count, 51
    Rating, 0/10

    QUESTLINES!!!
    Realm of Light
    • Hazel: Hello, human. If you're here for some wood, I'm afraid we have only decayed, useless logs here.
    • Hazel: This is the lumber yard for the forest, or at least, it was.
    • Hazel: The forest decay can't have escaped your notice. It certainly didn't escape the trees.
    Decay? Ooooh that thing that totally isn't Corruption even though it totally is. Ok. +1
    • Hazel: It's been this way for years, but recently it's only gotten worse. At least before, trees could still be used for wood.
    • Hazel: I know how you humans like to be helpful, so why don't you do us all a favour and stop the decay!
    You do it. It's your problem afterall. +1
    • Hazel: *sigh* Sorry, It just gets to you, you know? Watching the life around you slowly die.
    Unless you're 1000 years old you never saw this forest when it wasn't decaying. +1
    • Hazel: If you actually wanted to help, you could speak to Tiek. She lives in the only part of the forest not under decay. Walk to her house in the east, deep in the forest.
    You could get wood for your "useless" lumberyard from there couldn't you? +1

    • Tiek: Finally, you are here. I've been waiting … who knows how many years.
    I'm guessing 1000. +1
    • Tiek: I am the sorceress of the forest, I have been watching it for millennia.
    • Tiek: I influenced it, watched it grow… and for the last 1000 years.. Watched it slowly die.
    • Tiek: I am trying to restore it to what it used to be, a flourishing magical forest.
    • Tiek: Alas, I have failed.
    No shit. +1
    • I may be a powerful sorceress, but even I cannot even touch the darkness that plagues this land.
    Darkness is bad blahblah. +1
    • Tiek: Perhaps you can assist me. I think I am onto a breakthrough. If you could just pop round into my garden and harvest some flowers for me.
    I've been doing this shit for 1000 years but getting flowers is too much for me. +1
    • Tiek: Grab me [1 Ginseng], [1 Lobelia] and [1 Vervain].
    • Tiek: Be quick, though. The less exposure to the forest the better!
    You mean the flowers can't be exposed to the forest? but.... they're growing in the forest? +1
    • The garden is just round the side of my house.

    • Tiek: Oh no… Even my garden isn't immune anymore. My flowers are wilting.
    Conveniently, the garden has been fine over 1000 years, but now it decides to fuck up. +1
    • Tiek: You'll need to find some in the wild. Some of each species seem to be thriving in certain areas. I suppose that's natural selection for you.
    The flowers in my protected garden are wilting, but the ones out in the oppen in the midst of the decay are fiiiiiine.
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    +5

    • Tiek: Ginseng is a red plant that grows in caves, you'll have to search around here for some.
    • Tiek: Let's see, and Lobelia is a pink flower that grows on top of trees. You'll have to climb one,
    While getting shot at by ranged mobs. +1
    • try searching the ground for fallen petals.
    • Tiek: Oh yes, Vervain will only grow around the dead. You'll need to look around for a place full of death.
    • Tiek: Return to me when you find the wild flowers. I believe we can cure the forest with the combination.
    Go fetch. +3

    • Tiek: They look a little shoddy, but at least they're all alive. This might just work..
    • Tiek: Well a pinch of this, a splash of that. Using the blue flame of a Fleris.
    • Tiek: Aaaaannd… Bam!
    • Tiek: Here we are. One potion of light.
    Doesn't combing light with darkness create corruption? :thinking: +1
    • Tiek: Alright, go and pour it on the black spot in the forest. Hurry, who knows what effect the decay would have on it.

    • Tiek: Oh. Oh dear. That was the strongest recipe I knew...
    I'll never find another recipe in a thousand years. ): +1
    • Tiek: Head to the basement and dispose of the dead shrub. Who knows what dark powers it has.
    • Tiek: Don't forget to activate the compactor. If you don't press the button, we won't be able to continue.
    This line bothers me for some reason. +1

    • ???: Come to me, come towards the root.

    • Taproot: Greetings, young mortal. There are realms, adventurer.
    Why do I care? +1
    • Realms beyond your comprehension. Linked to your world in ways you cannot hope to understand.
    • Taproot: This land. The land you call home. It is our battleground… It's history is long and complex. We, the bringers of light seek to create a land of light and happiness.
    Light is infinite good cliché. +1
    • Taproot: However, our power is derived from the good in your world. Our greatest source of power, Gavel, soon succumbed to sin, and our light began to fade.
    • Taproot: But there are those, those who worship only darkness, that seek to destroy all.
    Darkness is infinitr bad cliché. +1
    • In your world, the influential forces of light and darkness clash.
    Light v. Darkness cliché. +3

    • Tiek: I should probably try and explain, you must be a little confused.
    Nah, this is totally normal for me. +1
    • We are not in the past, well, we are. But not physically.
    • Tiek: I am also not a villager, although I take the physical form of one.
    • Tiek: We are in the memory that the realm of light wants us to see and experience.
    Whose memory? +1
    • Tiek: You are neither dead nor alive at this point. You are here to learn.
    Learn what? Yeah darkness is bad. It did bad things like decay and shit. What do I not know yet? +1
    • Tiek: I can not directly influence you and tell you why you are here. As is the rules of our world.
    • Tiek: Explore this land, it should seem familiar. It was what the forest was, before the events that occurred 1000 years ago.
    Thanks Captain Obvious. +1
    • Tiek: Search for the two stones and pass between them. It will reveal the true enemy.
    Darkness? +1

    • Taproot: Gaze upon the decline.
    So it was darkness. Shocker. +1

    • Tiek: So, you either understand what's happened here, or you, like many before you, have many more questions.
    No, I understand it. Darkness is bad. +1
    • Tiek: I'm afraid I can not directly tell you where to go. I myself have been sent here from my realm to find a solution.
    • Tiek: But I believe the issues of this world, your world, can only be solved by those that inhabit it.
    But the problem is actually in the Realm of Light itsself. Cuz Orphion cuz infested with darkness. And it just decided to effect this world for fun I guess. +2
    • Tiek: I can, however, send you in the right direction..
    • Tiek: The thing that you witnessed enter this forest 1000 years ago was not unknown to some who inhabit these woods.
    • Tiek: To progress, you must seek the one who is as old as the forest. He, and only he will have the answers you seek to pursue the enemy.
    So I got a Taproot from this. Does this mean I got the remaines of the earlier NPC or smth? +1

    Sin Count, 38
    Rating, 1/10

    Started RoL questline
     
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  5. Cyana_

    Cyana_ Well-Known Adventurer HERO

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    ShadowMage1 Seraph of Twilight CHAMPION

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    I wouldn't say that the Supercomputer was put together well. I say this because he came off as super pretentious at the end when you kill Wynnston to get the key to initiate the boss fight. You could easily tell that Selvut decided to pull an Undertale on this one by trying to make us the bad guy. All that talk of "I had a small feeling that humans may still be good" and "Was it worth it?" made the Supercomputer, as a character, fall apart at that moment.
     
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    the drink penguin gang CHAMPION

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  8. FinnDestren

    FinnDestren Lonely lore enthusiast

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  9. the drink

    the drink penguin gang CHAMPION

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    He was programmed to attack the highest threat by nature. They were, he saw the things the humans did to the bird people, and decided they were a massive threat. He had some feeling deep inside that humans weren't exactly devilish beings and maybe there was some hope to salvage. But seeing the player brutally murder, cut open, and fish out a key from a defenseless dogs stomach just so he could get at the computer ruined any hope.

    But the player isn't really... a human at least by what I think. So yeah. It was a bit of an undertale but it might be able to prove some points later on considering Corkus seems to be having a brutal internal conflict going on. Definitely not the best idea to make, but to be fair, it's reasonable after watching the human murder a defenseless dog and tear a key straight from his torso to lose faith in humanity.


    Point still stands, bit reasonable, but bit Out of Character. And yes, very Undertale.
     
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    seeksery Wybel Photographer HERO

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    basically in other words ffs player just wait for the dog to excrete the key you have a brain now use it
    then again some other quests seem to show just how the player character is rather unintelligent (grave digger, cluck cluck, pit of the dead, wynnexcavation c, JUNGLE FEVER, THE SHADOW OF THE BEAST, shattered minds, forbidden prison, acquiring credentials, the belly of the beast, recipe for disaster)
     
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    Imaxelius Content Team Manager CT Manager QA Modeler HERO GM Builder

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    Selvut283 Circadian rhythm stuck on Tokyo time ♪ Music GM CHAMPION

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    It was a conflict of nature; his directive was to attack the highest threat, and it judged the humans to be the most threatening things on the island, but at the same time it was made by humans, so it wasn't quite sure what to do. It followed its directives, but it wasn't completely sure of it.

    Also, the Wynnston thing wasn't meant to be an Undertale at all; it was the thing looking for an excuse. After seeing how you ripped through the factory and destroyed so much, its internal directive was becoming further confirmed, so that was a personal test to determine.

    "Okay, this human/these humans have been absolutely destroying everything in the factory...but, it may simply be that they see us as "other". I mean, Mech X and them WERE terrorizing the humans, to be fair; this may be simply a retaliatory strike. So, let's see if something more familiar-looking will stop them...oh, Cerid's weird dog robot. Sure, that'll work, I certainly can't tell that it isn't a normal dog if it weren't for the fact I helped him make it, so if they break that, then it will prove my directive."

    It's a matter of weighing "Hm, they created me, would they want this?" versus "Perform intended directive." So, he took your actions as the tiebreaker and ultimately, he deemed the humans too threatening to leave alone. I was taking more than a few pages from GLaDOS, but I wasn't trying to mix any Undertale into the equation(except for the WELLY WELL WELL bit). I mean, GLaDOS is constantly insulting you and trying to get you to stop doing things by unsuccessfully tugging at your heartstrings(That core helped make shoes for orphans, you monster).

    It was meant to be a bit of black comedy; Wynnston DOES make mechanical noises when you kill him if you listen. He was pretending; I mean, why else would the walls just collapse down like they were cardboard cutouts when you drop in the key?
     
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  13. Shots

    Shots Yellow Rose Enthusiast HERO

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    Better be actually not bs unlike mine
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    I actually liked Eye of the Storm. Sure, the story is literally bs being spewed at your face constantly, but I actually liked the gameplay of Eye of the Storm. All parts of it I found fun (particularly the puzzle and Nagarath boss), and really when I did it for the first time I was genuinely surprised to see later that people hated it with a burning passion. To me it's one of those so bad it's good type of things, and I would honestly give it a 6/10 or 7/10, gameplay was fun but story needs a rework for the most part.
    All the others I more or less agree with except moving them up or down a rating by like one.
    also I'm going to add my own later because wtf not
     
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    I disagree with your critique on the envoy quest line. I felt the story itself was alright but the dialogues were terrible.

    Maxies dialogues in particular make me cringe and how pathetic they are... Ex: “I’m sorry for being so useless in front of you”.
    While I get that Maxie is ashamed that he (she?) has no skill in electro magic, that is not something anyone would ever say in real life. Especially to a stranger. It would be more like constant apologizing.

    Overall I felt the dialogues for Corkus quests were bad and could use a rewrite.
     
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  15. A Human

    A Human Definitely not an alien. VIP+

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    That should be an actual option in the dungeon with slightly altered dialogue.
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    7Mile Well-Known Adventurer VIP+

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  17. CylinderKnot

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    I would love to see this done for every quest!
     
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    Robbee Well-Known Adventurer

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    Exactly. Somethting like "Eye of the storm" may get a lot of (justified) hate, but mainly because it wants to be more than it actually is, so people at least keep it in mind. But then there are quests, which have (aguable) an even worse "story" (if you can call it this way), and gameplay and are in fact so petty that you dont even remember them.
     
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  19. tig

    tig "Because EO parkour killed my grandma, OK???"

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  20. CountBurn

    CountBurn Hackysack? HERO

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    what kind of fair criticism is that
     
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