Serious / In The News | Brett Kavanaugh Sexual Assault Claims

That's what I'm thinking. If you agree with his politics, there's still a good few others like him. Like I said previously, there's not a lot about him that sticks out other than the controversy.

 

I guesss it’s just that I don’t think he should be punished if he didn’t do it. But at the same time, I never really was all for him for his politics, and I would have just been fine with any other nominee, be it a democrat or republican.

I just hate how partisan the SC is now.

 

I don't think he's being prosecuted regardless of what happens. But this did shine more light into how he acts which is useful I think.

 

Oh I didn't consider that, yeah that does throw a wrench in the mix. Though I think his name is too well known to be stopped from taking a seat in the SC. It would be unfortuante if he had to grow through all of these trials just for it to be for nothing. But yeah that is something to consider

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Sadly, I don't think that would change anything considering how the senate is and how partisan they are, I think we can only hope he does well in his position.

 

I meant him not getting nominated as being punished.

The problem with this whole situation is that there are legitimate reasons for him not to be nominated other than the Ford allegations. But at the same time, if Bret is innocent, then Ford’s allegations shouldn’t be apart of them. Though if he wasn’t nominated, it would just seem that he wasn’t because of the allegations, and if the allegations are false, then it would seem to violate justice and all.

Uggghh....

 

I strongly agree with @KikiTheKiko here. Even if the claim should turn out to be fabricated, which I do not believe, Kavanaugh's horrible reactions show that he wouldn't be a good pick for the SC.
To back that up, some of my favourite moments;

• When asked if he ever had a blackout, he got aggressive and instead of answering asked the senator if he had. "I don't know, did you?" seems like no argument a Yale Law School graduate should ever use, under pressure or not.

• When asked about a few entries in the calendar he chose as proof, he blatantly lied. Most obvious was his claim that the 'devil's triangle' was a drinking game, even though it's a known sex position.

• A Supreme Court Justice is supposed to be neutral and judge according to law, not follow political motives. I am aware that the entire process of election is flawed in that regard (politically motivated senators being the ones voting for the SC), yet in his opening statement, a statement he had time to prepare beforehand, he attacked the Clintons, defended Trump and blamed liberals which seems like the exact opposite of what the SC should think like.

 

Why do you think Ford's claim is true? There are already plenty of point of evidence to suggest that Ford is lying and her own evidence sometimes contradicts with each other. I understand that Kavanah is not the best candidate but what part of the accusation you believe is true?

 

While there’s no concerts evidence, you can kinda tell based on how both parties act and react to certain situations.

 

Again I kinda agree with Kiki; I am not caught up on all the latest findings, but from what I've seen her reactions seem a lot more genuine and believable than Kavanaugh's. His calendar also includes events including Ford and her friend backing the story, despite the fact that Kavanaugh denied ever having been at a party with her.

 

4 people who ford said were at the party denied her story
she doesn't know where or when it happened (only the "general area" and "general time")
ford kept on delaying her hearing she even said she was afraid of small places and couldn't fly even tho she flew to many countries in her life as a way to give her more time to prepare
there isn't a single proof kavanaugh is guilty , only her words which after 30 years her suddenly deciding to speak up exactly before the election seems very sketchy

it makes a lot of sense kavanaugh would be agressive and angry , imagine if you were blamed for raping some girl in high school 30 years ago when you now have a wife and kid who receive death threats for it

Idk much about his calendar but it could very well be that he simply forgot because again its been over 30 years.

its pretty obvious that this rape allegation is a political move to push republicans out of places of power and I wouldn't be surprised if ford is being either paid for this OR used by democrats so kavanaugh has every right to talk about politics and attack the people who are trying to ruin his life over politics.

 

Oh god I completely forgot about the Devil’s Triangle thing

 

At this point I don't care whether he is guilty or not, for me this trial was proof that he is unfit and incapable of fulfilling the role he was nominated for. As much as the Democrats might have supported Ford to stop Kavanaugh, the same is true for republicans, who chose him in the first place because he was on their side and did similar things to liberal candidates in the past, so for me the "evil liberals trying to sabotage politics" argument is just ignoring the past and present.
And yeah, I agree that, should this be a lie, Kavanaugh has all right to be upset and disturbed. Yet he is a Yale Graduate, nominated for one of the highest honours and positions someone of his education could hope to hold. Those are the exact people that are supposed to be able to remain calm and reasonable in those situations, yet he chose to do the opposite. (And does being angry also justify telling lies?)

 

I never blamed only the democrats for hitting below the belt , but we are talking about this specific case and not about the overall political system and how flawed it is.
the thing is he is also a human and being a Yale Graduate doesn't change that and he shouldn't have a position taken from him because he got angry when he was personally attacked
if that was the case that a FALSE accusation could ruin someone's life(or even just make them worse) we would all be in danger , no matter the political view point . if there is NO evidence and he is found not guilty it should not effect him in the elections in any way , this trial might be a political but its still a personal attack on him and he has every right to act like a human and show emotion.

also lets be honest here if he would have stayed calm and reasonable people would have complained about how he is acting like a machine and has no emotion and is definitely guilty (especially when ford is basically crying and using her baby voice to get people to support her) and we would have ended with the same result.

 

Well his reaction though does bring into question his bias on future SC cases pertaining to sexual assault. I agree that he shouldn’t be punished for something he didn’t do, but at the same time there are other legitimate reasons for him not to be appointed.

 

This just turned from "is he a rapist" to "should he be appointed" for whatever reason and people are using "evidence" for one as arguments for the other. Kind of disappointed in this to be honest.

 

I mean of course it wouldn't be correct to condemn him for something that might not be true, but either way, if it really was wrong a SC nominee should have handled it with ease. And he did horrible.

 

Yestrday morning the senate voted to continue the nomination process voting Kavanaugh not guilty of his charges. Today at 5pm EST will be the time of voting to see if he will be the new SC. Theoughout the time of the proceedings it became inherently obvious the Kavanaugh would be innocent from his charges due to lack of evidence and Ford's witness contradicting Ford's own claim. However during this time everyone saw an emotionally charged Kavanaugh, his reactions when he was cornered and his behavior when asked questions were not of typical SC justice behavior and I do recognize that. Should that prevent him from being admitted I am not sure myself. And due to many news outlets citing the positive probability that Kavanaugh will be admitted into the supreme court I can only hope that he will do a good job in doing so and if he isn't I can wish him good luck in future endeavors. Thanks to those that particiapted in this thread but with Kavanaugh being found innocent, I'll request a lock.

 

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