Warrior/Knight Help Warrior's Tankiness

Lol wdym? I just said the ignis archer was good. Spring was meh, gma is op, is that wrong?

 

yeah...

 

lol i wasnt lying when i said that tho

 

can you give said build then?

cause i'd like to see this godly build

 

it's been a rly long time since i used that build. like a year ago. i couldn't remember the exact armor pieces exactly but smth like this is roughly it. it's got little less mana regen and intel, but the 1235 hp regen vs the 500 hpregen in my previous build makes up for it (>^-^)>

https://wynndata.tk/builder/?helmet...ate_powders=&leggings_powders=&boots_powders=

 

I wouldn't say that's a good way to compare stats, but hey more power to ya I guess.

 

Haha lol. Just wanna try different playstyles. Tank archer is interesting

 

looks a build

anima infused helmet

prowess

00f

that build is pretty good though

 

lol, ignis' double buffs (first the hpr % actually does stuff) and the second (bass dmg increased to equal spring) made it op now. i would rank mythic bows as gma, spring/ignis, freedom, az, strati/divzer

 

i don't know why exactly you're telling me this (i was talking about how your build had 2 master hive items), but first, that list is stupid

divzer isn't as bad as some people think, you can simply build def (example: https://wynndata.tk/s/pRK8x9). you still will be killed easily, but you will basically be the same as a 0def 0agi assassin (which is already playable) + speed 3, range, and more damage.

strati is actually really good, the damage is ok (builds usually are like 13k-ish bombs if i remember), but high agi makes you actually pretty tanky, possibly as tanky as ignis.

/edit: my reasoning for "tanky as ignis" is because with ignis, you have -40% def as an archer, and you're basically diving straight into that by building def. your defense stat negates 65% damage, but then archer subtracts 40% from that. out of 1000% damage from 10 hits, you're negating 250%.

with stratiformis, you're first off negating 750% damage out of 1000%. on the remaining 250% that you take, multiply that by 140% to account for archer's -neutral def (350%). this means you're negating 650% of damage.

not to mention that defense only applies to neutral damage, and that agi is also elemental damage. the only thing ignis actually has over strati is that you have a lot more hp. /

az is literally beaten by hive bow and cluster damage wise, and doesn't give you any other advantages such as walk speed

full glass cluster: https://wynndata.tk/s/x6ksFh
full glass az: https://wynndata.tk/s/aZEPLY

hpr in general is in generally not so great. with your ignis build, you have 0 agi and no vanish, so you have to go out of your way to activate hpr by running away from an enemy and having to dodge

yes (spring is actually still SLIGHTLY higher), but spring has 39% water damage as opposed to 13% fire damage on ignis, not to mention 3/4 mana

don't get me wrong, ignis is good, but honestly you're overrating it from my point of view

 

Lol, spring is good. But the -hp on strati doe... and its no where near 13k, outmatched by spring and ignis dmg. Spring does have 11 more dps than ignis so like sliiiiiiiight more, and the 39% water dmg is nice. However ignis is also good cuz if we r talking identifications, u see ignis and be like... wall of green letters lol. Anyways, since this is a warrior thread can i ask for the ABSOLUTELY TANKIEST POSSIBLE BUILD IN WYNNCRAFT while still doing enough dmg to solo bosses in linand qira?

 

This guy just gets a new obsession with something "op" every couple of weeks. I've seen the pattern. He finds a new "op" and then goes on the forums spamming it in build threads, and no amount of reasoning will change his mind lol.

 

What a god

 

i'll admit that i was wrong on that 13k bombs, it was more like 11k (rip). anyway, the -5k hp on strati (compared to ignis) is canceled out by the fact that agi > def on archer (strati ignores 75% of elemental damage and 65% of neutral damage, as opposed to ignis ignoring 0% of elemental damage and 25% of neutral damage).

https://wynndata.tk/s/PXSm9h
https://wynndata.tk/s/CPwnU7

i guess you didn't powder it

thorns and reflect - not exactly that great, considering it's just 26% in each
elemental defenses - most builds don't utilize all of these, only half of them most of the time
fire damage - rather low, but it's there i guess
hp - actually good
defense - actually ok
hpr/hpr% - not personally a big fan

basically, only about half of these ids usually make a significant difference in a build. it's like saying contrast is broken because it has lots of positive ids then realizing it only has one, possibly 2 useful stats in most cases

as for that warrior build, take this i guess: https://wynndata.tk/s/6mM72n

not really sure how much damage is need to solo li and stuff though

 

Lol this is a knight/warrior thread im not talking about weapons at all. R u saying that i think the class warrior is “op”? Im simply asking for a tank build. I never said any weapon is op or anything in this thread till we went off topic. Sure, ive gained appreciation of weapons b4, but i never “spam forums” with it, u havent seen what real “spam” is. I make one single thread asking for a build or asking for others to criticize my build. Also, whats wrong with appreciating a mythic? I would choose to love rather than hate unlike some ppl. Anyways, now can we pls get back on topic? I was asking for a warrior full tank build that can do dmg decent enough to solo li bosses, qira, and wars

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pretty good build. Never thought anyone could use matryoshka shell that expertly. Anyways, i thought when i said “tankiest build possible”, ppl would choose guardian over apoc, but hey, u r the expert

 

well, guardian may have wored, but i don't know if you would get enough dps to actually solo LI at a somewhat acceptable pace (namely, your damage against cybel would be miniscule and stuff like that)

 

mmmmmm..... no, as much as i love guardian and frikin hate apoc i must admit that apoc is a whole lot better. Guardian's notable features, insane hp bonus, highest raw hpr of any item in game. but hpr doesnt proc in combat (which is stupid af) Apoc's notable features, good dmg (tier abuse), can abuse as low as lv 81, only requires 70 def (but warchief needs 120 str lol) and obv good lifesteal. overall Apoc > Guardian, even tho Guardian is way more fun and isnt good because of its abusability #nerfapoc
my opinion is solely based off of observing the stats of each wep and i have only used guardian, also dont ask me for builds cuz i suck

 

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