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Wynn Only Playable In 1.13

Discussion in 'Wynncraft' started by YoshisWorld, Jul 30, 2018.

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What would you like?

  1. Wynn only 1.13 with all new features used

  2. how it is today

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  1. YoshisWorld

    YoshisWorld Famous Adventurer Media CHAMPION

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    Is it possible to make Wynncraft only 1.13 available?

    + All new feaures could be used
    + New Quest/Dungeon ideas (maybe)
    + New Weapon : Tridant (you can fly with Enchantment Impaling. Possibly 5th class?)
    + "Ocean" would be used too
    + New Enemys : (Turtles, Vex, Phantoms etc.)
    + Boat fix
    + Llamas > Horses

    - Some People on Toasters can't play 1.13
    - A lot of time spending in recoding all Quests & Interactions

    Can a Mod answer this Question:
    Is it possible to make Wynncraft only 1.13 available?
     
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  2. nicktree

    nicktree wynncraft player HERO GM

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    This would be an unpopular opinion but we already know that Wynn is going to be using 1.13 blocks from Jpresent, while still staying 1.8.9 - 1.12 compatible.
     
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  3. <div>

    <div> i will kill again HERO

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    It's not that simple to just upgrade into a higher version of minecraft. Even one update would require half of the game's code to be rewritten according to what I've heard, but 5 at the same time? That's a big nope. And besides that, there's no real reason to upgrade, since we can in theory use higher version things thanks to JP's magic; Some things such as new blocks, commands and structure blocks are already being used. One problem is, that certain things simply wouldn't show up in lower versions, and would need a replacement. And if an acceptable replacement can be made for something, is there a reason to have the versions different just to use a version specific feature? Sure, we could simply keep 1.8 as the base, and just drop the support for old versions of minecraft for the sake of consistency, but why would we? The only thing it'd achieve is annoy the playerbase which mostly doesn't use 1.13 as their go-to version. If we were to do this, it'd also completely remove the ability to swap versions in order to dodge version specific bugs, which as you can see, 1.13 has lots in particular.

    As a last note, yes, something will most likely be done about this in the future, but I don't think such an abrupt change would be too beneficial.
     
  4. Dr Zed

    Dr Zed Famous Adventurer HERO

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    I would just do it for new features and mobs. 80% of the mobs in Wynncraft are just zombies/humanoids in different customes, so it’s not like Wynncraft couldn’t use some more mob types. Sure we can still use items and blocks, but they don’t impact the gameplay.
     
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    <div> i will kill again HERO

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    In addition to the above, having human entities allows us to create basically anything with a humanistic body structure, which already clears the need for half of the new entities. As for why mainly zombies and skeletons are used, you should note, that they were all created before the new mobs were released. It might not stay like this forever, but changing seemingly thousands of mobs would sure be a highly time demanding job. And as for differently structured mobs such as turtles etc, we've moderately recently acquired the ability to make mobs out of armorstands by JP, which allows us to create any type of a mob imaginable thanks to the skilled modelers within the team. You might think they'd be laggier than single entities, but knowing how "well" mojang tends to optimize their entities (they don't), I don't see the supposed lag as an issue.
     
  6. SUPER M

    SUPER M shoop CHAMPION

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    This isn't Vip Plaza...

    but really though how the hell do you think Wynn could just jump into 1.13 when it always took forever to update to newer version.
     
  7. Dr Zed

    Dr Zed Famous Adventurer HERO

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    For the bugs I completely understand. It’s just that some replacements aren’t acceptable in terms of the purpose of the change. For example, the main reason I would want more mob types besides cosmetic variety is for new mob AI. Most mobs feel the same because they rarely force you to change how you fight them (excluding bosses). Sure, we could just make new AI and new mob models, though why spend all that time doing that when there are others that already exist in game? Also given that some models tend to break like the dragon model, it’s not as feasible as it may seem.

    Not to mention other features such as dual weilding don’t have good substitutes. Letting players to block attacks could spice up the gameplay.
     
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  8. Casparof

    Casparof mythic counter: 2 HERO

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    like its possible and whould love 2 see it maby its happening cuz salted said yhe update wil take a little longer this time so maby they are working on somthing like this
     
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    <div> i will kill again HERO

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    Vanilla AI isn't associated with wynnmobs, nor could it be utilized, unless we wanted remake all mobs including the system, and give a heavy downgrade on the game mechanics. As for the current AI being bad, I agree, and would like to see a change to it. A concern I have about this would be lag, if for example you wanted to give mobs pathfinding abilities. Talking about custom modeled mobs, Wynn has tried to be as unique as possible ever since the development of Gavel, so introducing entirely new mobs is definitely working towards this. Also, the chances of armorstand models breaking were greatly reduced by JP a while back. At best, you might see them broken for a split second when they're just spawning in / experiencing lag.
     
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    A Human Definitely not an alien. VIP+

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    I think a big issue is that command syntax is completely changed. All the command blocks are going to have to br rewritten for them to work.
     
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    Dr Zed Famous Adventurer HERO

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    Ah, I gotcha. I just thought it would be easier just to ‘export’ vanilla mob AI than to create a custom one. Maybe not exactly path finding, but probably along more so along the lines of mobs dodging your attacks or more movement patterns.
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    Maybe could we just drop 1.8? Boats don’t work in that version anyway and at least we can have dual weilding.
     
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    N O due to how Wynn is coded, how this would be incompatible with Wynn lore, the Content Team working on something more important, etc.

    Also 1.13 was released not too long ago, so it could still be filled with bugs right now
     
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    HalfCat_ Supporter of Catania HERO GM Builder

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    Incompatible with the lore? What?
     
  14. sdkgjnio

    sdkgjnio hod-SOH-nee-uhs

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    Firstly, the enchantment that lets you fly is actually called Riptide and it only works in water or when it's raining.
    Secondly, this wouldn't really work. Wynncraft already uses those sorts of mechanics, but through plugins and not vanilla items. If a fifth class were to be coded, they would have to do that for the new class as well. Each type of weapon also needs 20 models, and the Trident is only one item - you'd need to apply the effects to an item that wasn't actually a trident.
    Thirdly, water spears already are tridents - a trident is a type of specialised spear.
     
  15. ocu

    ocu penguin gang CHAMPION

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    Do you know how long its going to take to skip past 5 different updates, rewrite all the code, fix all the hundreds of bugs that will later come along with it, etc.?


    wynncraft has neither the time, neither the numbers, neither the resources to make it all 1.13 based. By the time that's done most people will be restless from the lack of updates and the game will be so bug filled itll be crazy.
     
  16. YoshisWorld

    YoshisWorld Famous Adventurer Media CHAMPION

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    but i still believe
     
  17. Jbip

    Jbip yea QA GM CHAMPION

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    I'm here asking for at least 1.9 while this guy lives in 2038
     
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  18. ocu

    ocu penguin gang CHAMPION

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    then your beliefs are impossibilities.

    Give it up, updating to 1.13 will take too long and considering how much other stuff there is to deal with in just wynncraft there is absolutely no time at all to do something like this.
     
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    Yeah, I would be for just dropping 1.8.
     
  20. ocu

    ocu penguin gang CHAMPION

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    Dropping 1.8 is sensible and not amazingly hard on the developers, plus the game will become more versatile with new items, etc. to use
     
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