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Llevigar Is Inter-provincial

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  1. pajrc1234

    pajrc1234 Well-Known Adventurer

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    When you enter Gavel, you see the "you are now entering Llevigar" before you see the "you are now entering Gavel" thing, and the reverse is true for exiting through the large gates.

    Because there's a small section of land where it is Llevigar but it isn't Gavel, that means Llevigar has territory both in and out of Gavel.

    Therefore, Llevigar is inter-provincial.
     
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    captainganon God of k | Derpalope VIP+

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    i mean, only if you consider the ocean a province
     
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    Wynn: The Anime Does not like anime VIP+

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    There is no [You are exiting the Wynn Province] message. Therefore everything is wynn and gavel is a province itself inside of a super province.
     
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    <div> i will kill again HERO

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    Then how can there be a [You are now entering the Wynn Province]?
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    Wynn: The Anime Does not like anime VIP+

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    That doesn't change the fact you are not exiting whenever you enter gavel and that wynn is the ultimate province conquerer
     
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    Shanaaro . HERO

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    you're not exiting when you leave Gavel either, are you?
     
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    <div> i will kill again HERO

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    You are, unless you're walking backwards, or going through Jofash docks
     
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    Shanaaro . HERO

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    Does it actually give a message? I've never seen it.
     
  9. Pifg

    Pifg aaaaaaaaaaaa CHAMPION

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    So that means everything on the map is part of wynn, but not all of wynn is everything on the map
    if that makes sense
    its kinda like all flamingos are birds, but not all birds are flamingos
     
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    DragonEngineer Famous Adventurer HERO

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    Isn't there "You are entering Wynn Province" at the Tutorial area?
     
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  11. BuffAirSpear

    BuffAirSpear Avos Air Assassin HERO

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    Tbh now thinking about it... that should really be fixed ._.
     
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  12. sdkgjnio

    sdkgjnio hod-SOH-nee-uhs

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    I'd say that that means that the borders of the Wynn Province are a bit murky and ambiguous. Gavel has a clear physical barrier separating it from the ocean, but Wynn is different. Is the peninsula separating Wynn and presumably Fruma part of Wynn? What about Selchar - it behaves like it's part of Wynn and it's a sister city to the capital of the Wynn Province and yet it's in the middle of the ocean. What about the other peninsula behind Bremminglar? What about Nemract Docks - they're technically in the ocean. It's a bit difficult to define fpr a message.
    I think this is only the case because of the vertical differences. Before you get through the gate completely, you're not in Llevigar, you're below Llevigar, but there's no clear way to show the difference.
     
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    BuffAirSpear Avos Air Assassin HERO

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    It was stated before that the ocean is no mans land and thus that should clear up most things i guess (as for anything else.. i mean any exception can be decided by the CT right? ).
     
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    sdkgjnio hod-SOH-nee-uhs

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    But do the peninsulas count as part of the ocean?
     
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    BuffAirSpear Avos Air Assassin HERO

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    since they are in the ocean id say yeah? everything else would be unnecessarily complicated and wouldnt make sense. Why would just the water not belong to anyone.. no point in that. So if the islands were part of provinces there wouldnt have been a point to call it a no mans land. Plus... no one is claiming to own corkus... and they would definitely claim it if the ocean was split up between gavel and wynn. Id say its pretty much confirmed that the islands arent part of any province.
     
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    sdkgjnio hod-SOH-nee-uhs

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    They may not be a part of any province, but there does seem to be at least some ownership and control of them, especially by Wynn. Skiens Island used to be a Troms military base, and Selchar is certainly more closely tied to Wynn than anywhere else, and the lore of Maro Peaks talks of Wynn colonising it. Is Selchar a Wynn colony? Was Skiens? They may not be part of the Province itself but no mans land is not the word to use.
    Are they in the ocean though? They're connected to land. It's not clear-cut.
     
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    BuffAirSpear Avos Air Assassin HERO

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    Skiens fled from troms to Skiens island after he went mad ._.
    Trade alliances over several hundred years can do that as well
    upload_2018-7-16_23-40-35.png
    nice connection to land
    (unless you mean under the water.. in that case i am just not going to take anything serious anymore because common sense can teach us what is meant by something being in the ocean)
     
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    sdkgjnio hod-SOH-nee-uhs

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    Then why was he given a boat large enough to take his entire army? Why are there present-tense accounts of his descent into madness there?
    Several hundred years? Selchar has only been around for 30 or so years and there ocean wasn't calmed until 100 years ago.
    I'm starting to think you don't know what a peninsula is, or what I was actually referring to.... they're most definitely connected to land.
     
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    BuffAirSpear Avos Air Assassin HERO

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    That.. you ask selvut
    Edit: btw he took an army with him... you would expect him to be able to just take a ship or two since he has an army supporting his claim
    I am assuming you are referring to item lore of uhhh iirc its waves raiser right?
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    then please enlighten me which peninsula you are talking about because.. i see just about none
    (except for world border stuff)
     
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    sdkgjnio hod-SOH-nee-uhs

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    It's well-established lore from several places. Not just that.
    One just East of Legendary Island (joins onto the western border of Wynn near Katoa Ranch, another west of Half Moon Island (connects to the mainland behind Bremminglar)
     
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