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Mage/Dark Wizard Help Replacement Build

Discussion in 'Class Builds' started by Morterm, Jun 24, 2018.

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  1. Morterm

    Morterm Hi

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    CoolVictor2002 Dead meme expert,cyberbullied by NicBOMB

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    Morterm Hi

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    is there a one for mana blast
     
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    WynnChairman Chairman of Wynn HERO

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    Morterm Hi

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    ok but super slow i dont like can someone fix that please
     
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    WynnChairman Chairman of Wynn HERO

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    yea just magically make a very slow weapon faster while maintaining damage
    here you go: https://wynndata.tk/s/xK5LuB
     
  7. NicBOMB

    NicBOMB Maker of Builds | Lurks on Forums | 1 Mythic Found CHAMPION

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    dude, stop posting if you aren't going to help'em. You're just making yourself look bad: https://wynndata.tk/s/hWvKMR
    this is all you had to do:
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    Little effort and fixes very slow while maintaining most of the damage (only 1k avg spell loss).

    There are plenty of reasons to not like this user's past threads, but they're just asking for help here. Stop trying to flame already. That was old 3-4 locked threads ago.
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    Also: @SirEnderLord https://wynndata.tk/s/hWvKMR
    if you don't have enough SPs to use this with your SP rolls, try swapping in gigabyte to compensate.
     
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    WynnChairman Chairman of Wynn HERO

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    no its just really really really irritating to me whenever people go around asking for free stuff/help while putting in the minimum effort to actually do anything themselves
    your telling me thats all I had to do but did you think about how he could have done literally the same thing in less than 10 seconds but instead decided to just go "oh i dont like that someone else do it for me (please)"
    not to mention he asked for another build for manablast when he could literally have just switched the weapon from cascade to manablast
    but again thats obviously too much work someone else do it plox
    honestly shit like this just really grinds my gears
     
  9. NicBOMB

    NicBOMB Maker of Builds | Lurks on Forums | 1 Mythic Found CHAMPION

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    Anyone can do what I displayed in 10 seconds, but only those with the knowledge can. People come to the Class Builds section and use the Help prefix to signify they either A) don't know what they're doing B) have a specific request C) or want outsider input on a build. When someone says:
    They clearly don't know how to find items that increase their attack speed. Yes, you may see helping someone find what they want as trivial or
    but that doesn't give you the right to shit on threads because you feel like it either. This person was just posting a help thread and finding a build, but you went and decided to completely throw out the positive aspects of this thread simply because you were annoyed. It's just rude. If you don't like using wynndata and helping people do simple stuff like search through a database for items that meet some specifications, then this isn't the place to voice yourself. It's that simple. Why are you following someone you don't like anyways?!?! You're intentionally attacking someone and ruining the whole point of this section. They want to play wynn and have fun. There are quite a few other things you could be berating this person over, like their cactus build farming comment, or making a rainbow hybrid without a mythic or infused hive weapon, but you chose to be petty. It took me 10 seconds to use the search bar then type a quick reply. It took you the same time to make a negative comment and stoop from a place of moral high-ground. Think before you reply to this.
     
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    WynnChairman Chairman of Wynn HERO

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    the guy's literally in the wynndata discord. even if he doesnt know every little thing about it, the fact that he didnt even bother to try to do anything himself is what ticks me off
    or maybe actually looked around a bit before posting? funny how its ok to shit on housing threads but once its about builds "oooh he's just looking for help"
    its not like this is his first or second thread either, he's posted 4 class build help threads in the past two weeks basically just asking people to do all the work for him. He's not asking how can i make good builds he's saying make builds for me
    what positive aspects
    what gave you the impression i didnt like using wynndata? also people asking to do simple stuff is annoying because why cant you just do it yourself then. its not that i dont want to help people i dont want to help people who dont want to help themselves. in fact that's one of my biggest pet peeves
    cuz its a good meme
    um idk if you realized but i actually did give him what he wanted?
    i did mention that on the other thread?
     
  11. NicBOMB

    NicBOMB Maker of Builds | Lurks on Forums | 1 Mythic Found CHAMPION

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    I do agree that he's posted 4 class build help threads, but asking for help is the point of a help thread...
    I can't seem to convince you here, so we can agree to disagree on this.

    that they didn't jump to attacking the person for a petty reason
    simple

    touche

    10k avg spell -> 3k avg spell
    If that's maintaining damage, then IDK what class building is.

    exactly. I could see a valid argument if you were to bring that up, but instead you attacked someone asking for help. I don't like 'em either, but the sooner they get help, the sooner they're gone too. give them something useful and send them off, rather than making a petty reply.
     
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    WynnChairman Chairman of Wynn HERO

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    yes asking for help is the point of a help thread, not charity. the definition of help is: make it easier for (someone) to do something by offering one's services or resources.

    make it easier not give for free. again its obvious the OP hasn't put any effort in himself which again is what ticks me off
    also you seem to have conveniently skipped over the part that i even bolded so
    what can i say

    so just cuz something isnt distinctly negative its positive? well ok

    i meant the manablast thing but k
    so then next time someone shows up at the a store asking for money you should just indulge them and send them on their way? if you just keep feeding a squirrel itll keep coming back for more. same here. you keep giving him builds, he'll just keep coming back. again its not that i dont want to help people in general but
     
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    Derpy_Watermelon Professional at Getting Lost VIP+

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    dude, @NicBOMB, if your goal is to make people be less irritable and rude, calling them out for stuff like this isn't gonna help.

    Like, going around calling people out for their mistakes aren't gonna really make things better. And @WynnChairman has a point... it's pretty irritable when people just keep asking you to change stuff. Anybody will get slightly annoyed. You're just blowing this up into an argument for your egos...
     
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    and @SirEnderLord I'm not sure why the slow attack speed of Manablast bothers you. From what I've seen, you want a spell based build, and 9-10k meteors are pretty good. Even with @NicBOMB 's build, you're getting a measly 1.7k melee dps, which doesn't feel that good for a hybrid build imo...

    The attack speed doesn't affect spell casting whatsoever, if that's what you're worried about.
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    If you want a hybrid build, I played around with some items.

    It's pretty poorly optimized since I'm not as familiar with the rebalanced items as well as the new ones. There are probably better options to optimize it as a hybrid cascade build.

    https://wynndata.tk/s/DXIy5h

    The general idea is going off of the earth/water combo of Pisces. I wouldn't recommend straight up taking this build, but I think what you're looking for is maybe something along the lines of this concept?
     
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    gambler oof (jk) but why doesnt your build have a necklace or a bracelet?

    Heres the same build with no gambler and some other items. also the defenses are not on negative and the dmg is slighly better
     
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    YYGAYMER reeeee FW FW Media HIC Master Featured Wynncraftian

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    NicBOMB Maker of Builds | Lurks on Forums | 1 Mythic Found CHAMPION

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    This is my point:
    @WynnChairman , as I said, can't be swayed:
    I totally understand that.
    More power to em for sticking to their beliefs.
    That's how you chose to interpret the thread. I just responded like any other help thread until I saw your reply. It was poorly executed, rude, and had great potential for antagonizing the OP without being 'all about my distaste for giving people things for free'. I understand that's how you feel, and disagree, but you still could have chosen to use many other points (which I listed) to reach your ultimate goal while refraining from being petty.

    thanks for clarity. I associated it with the cancer build since you wrote it in the same reply:

    And I'll just keep getting better at making builds that I don't normally make. I don't care that I won't reap any rewards from making these builds, hell I don't even play wynncraft much anymore. I just like making builds. I don't care who wants builds, or their history, but if someone has a valid point (you) and squanders their opportunity to provide an interesting reply without being flat out rude, then I'll totally call them out for it.
     
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    Look I'm not gonna go throw this into a flame war or whatever, but you going around and playing the "moral high ground" while calling other people out isn't gonna help with arguments. You've just turned this into a battle between your egos, and that's where the toxicity in the section stems from. Just give the guy his build and mone on, this thread isn't even what it's originally for anymore.
     
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    WynnChairman Chairman of Wynn HERO

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    um ok but that doesnt make the thread positive? also i dont see how someone shitting on a thread actually throws out any positive aspects? if anything the thread was already negative the moment he asked for a replacement for a 2 year old build when cancer spell attack tier and multiple hive items was a thing. he probably saw 17-22k dmg and went wow i want that someone go make me one
    so i guess every sarcastic comment is just rude and poorly executed now?
    in any case you say you understand me but you dont seem to.
    i dont mind giving people free stuff, i do mind however when someone asks for something without putting any effort in themselves
     
  20. Morterm

    Morterm Hi

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    what just happened?
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    also i did not ask for 22k i asked for 10-12k mr negative
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    And plus I dont know about every item in wynn which would also mean i dont know how to optimize this wand all i want to do is find a build that brings the most out of the mana blast wand
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    also i like his build for the record
     
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