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Any Class Silver's Custom Item Feedback Plaza

Discussion in 'Class Builds' started by SilverMirror, May 9, 2018.

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  1. SilverMirror

    SilverMirror Retired IM HERO

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    Yeh so theres that, I like seeing the community making custom items with original ideas and gimmicks and I have been helping some of you guys improve on your design and balance on discord. Though due to irl stuff I cant always been on discord when theres traffic so I just figured I'd make a post here and come back to it from time to time.

    Feel free to post your custom items made through the [Wynndata Custom Item Generator] here with some information following this format.
    • Link / Pic of your item (I prefer both)
    • Name / Lore (if you want to)
    • Theme / Playstyle (*must, tell me what is the intended design behind your item)
    • Anything else (*optional, e.g. why did you made it like that or what kind of feedback you want to receive or anything)
    I'll try to give some feedback on your design, balance and how to improve whenever I'm free. If you want to discuss it further you can ping me in wynncraft discord #class_builds channel, please don't dm me unless I dm you it scares me. Also if your item is incredibly unrealistic and out of balance I would just ignore it coz I make this out of interest to help the guys that want to put efforts in their items so if you aren't then please don't bother.

    Anyone is welcomed to give feedbacks here on other's items too, in general I just wanna make this place so everyone can help everyone to improve.

    While you're at it go check out my Themed Custom Item Challenge where I challenge you guys to make custom items with a specific theme and restriction every week. I may or may not help you with your challenge submission if you post it here.

    Yeeeeh I don't expect this to get super busy but hey heres something for me to do while I procrastinate on my essay reports. I'm doing this out of personal interest and this has nothing to do with the Item Team.
     
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  2. enecks

    enecks Well-Known Adventurer HERO

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    Name - bitch you dead already
    https://wynndata.tk/ci/Custom-670555915
    Lore : some nerd wanted to be cool and create a thing, it ended up like this. It costed a total of 277231 LE but was worth it
    Playstyle : stay in 1 place and throw bombs
     
  3. CoolVictor2002

    CoolVictor2002 Dead meme expert,cyberbullied by NicBOMB CHAMPION

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    Tilk miestrom https://wynndata.tk/ci/Custom-914040249

    To slay the dragon terrorising detlas the 3 Gods created the best chestplate in za warudo
    (joke item too op for real usage)

    EDIT: aw i didn't read the whole thing..
     
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  4. RJJguyTheCarrot

    RJJguyTheCarrot Carrut

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    is this a good item
     
  5. Wynn: The Anime

    Wynn: The Anime Does not like anime VIP+

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    Item: https://wynndata.tk/ci/Custom-115143722
    Name: Cresent's Smog
    Lore: Found in the depths of the Oni's treasure on Half-Moon island, when wielded, the mist that surrounds the spear envelops the user crushsing the soul and attributing properties similar to that of a corpse decaying.

    Item
    : https://wynndata.tk/ci/Custom-183110200
    Name: Laura
    Lore: The soul-locking weapon, finally enraged by the misuse, lashed out at it's wielder. However, moments before snatching the hero's life, a nebulous energy surrounded the pair. While the fallen hero still remains trapped in the weapon, a soft glow emits from the maul, as if it is at rest.


    Both of these are my W1/W2 suggestions, just wanted to look for feedback for the weapons in general.
     
  6. SilverMirror

    SilverMirror Retired IM HERO

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    Alright lets see

    For your week 1 sub, I can see that you want to discourage spell and encourage melee, as well as entice people to put air powders on it, but thats it. Your submission is one of the "an air weapon that makes you want to put air powders" but not "an air weapon that makes you want to use wind prison", mainly because, wind prison amplifies base damage, it would have a greater effect if your weapon has higher base damage, so a slower weapon should be the way to go. Moreover, poison will break wind prison which is counter intuitive to what you really want to do. In terms of IDs, it seems a bit lazy to me, slapping -skill points is easy to reduce the power of your item and restrict its build combo but its not always the best way to go. A drawback is only a drawback when there are things to reduce it from, there are no apparent reason for it to have -dex, -intel is kind of unnecessary as usually if you put -sp its either a gimmick or an element countered by it, you already achieved your design with -spell. Also for an end game weapon it got too low req.

    For your week 2 sub, you have to try not putting counter intuitive IDs and traits on your weapon. If its a hybrid you shouldnt basically delete the melee attack of your weapon, also 234% spell dmg on super slow base damage is crazy good. If your weapon are going for str/int combo, theres no need for -water dmg ID on it, in general one shouldnt put -dmg id of that element's base damage on the weapon as its counter intuitive unless its running a specific gimmick and use for balancing with slots, which I dont see those are the case in the weapon. Even if its soul locking -water dmg id does not help reinforce that theme.

    To sum up, you can improve your work in the future by focusing more on putting IDs thats only relevant to the design and the elemental theme of your item, as well as improve the design so its clearer and tidier.

    Feel free to quote me if you want to discuss it further
     
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  7. e!

    e! ⁣e HERO

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    Some shit that I made when I was high on cocaine:

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  8. SilverMirror

    SilverMirror Retired IM HERO

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    i can see that

    i actually really like the idea of str/dex req that gives intel, i think if u try to properly make a weapon base on that concept it can turn out pretty well
     
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  9. Jacquie

    Jacquie Archer is bad change my mind HERO

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    Dissonance

    Lore: "This strange helmet's own existence seems contradictory to itself. In addition to this, it causes the wearer to do, say, and think things that seem extremely irrational."

    The entire theme revolving around the item is how it's contradictory. Positive mana regen and negative mana steal, but negative health regen and positive life steal. Huge base health but an equally huge health debuff. Encourages a melee playstayle with lifesteal and ws to get in and out easily, but lowers attack speed. Damage bonus to elements that are given a defense debuff. Has a powder slot to help ward off the defense debuff, but not enough to make a huge difference.

    Obviously, this thing could probably be better balanced, but I personally love this theme. An item that is contradictory to its own playstyle. It's definitely a difficult feat to pull off, and I'm sure I'm nowhere close, but I think I have a nice beginning/base product here.
     
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  10. Cruuk

    Cruuk yopyop HERO

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    I don't mean to be rude, it looks like an interesting item, but doesn't Paradox sort of do that already?
     
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  11. Jacquie

    Jacquie Archer is bad change my mind HERO

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    It does, I won't deny that. But paradox to me, at least, always felt a little more defense oriented than offense oriented.
     
  12. SilverMirror

    SilverMirror Retired IM HERO

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    ye theming around contradictory is fine but you should also make sure what your ultimate goal for this item is. While you want it to encourage melee I can only see it being used in spell builds as there are next to no drawbacks to discourage spell plays. Also I would recommend you gauge the power level of different IDs, what I mean is, is having a max hp of 3k with 39ws and 51%x2 and 3/4 mana regen on a single item is fine, the answer is probably not. While theming around contradictory is fine you should also think about how would the item plays out overall, theres a limit to how contradictory the ids can be put on the item without being the focus of the gimmick.

    I would suggest improve and refine the theming of your item, rebalance some of the IDs and increase the drawbacks on it, you can take reference from Brainwash, Breakdown and Paradox. Also I tried to improvise something on your item if you wanna see it let me know.
     
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  13. yellowscreen

    yellowscreen Certified Lurker

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    Probably the stupidest thing ever.

    With an okay build does 8.5k TELEPORTS and meteor does almost no damage.
    No powder slots to prevent abuse of powders for overpowered weapon.

    Sure, tele is cheap, tele is strong, tele is fast to cast, tele blinds enemies
    But getting it to hit? Aiming while constantly teleporting and changing location?
    That can get disorienting.
    AND EXTREMELY HARD.
    Hits like a truck with a REALLY drunk driver: You don't want to get hit by it, but the truck probably smashed into a building next to you already.

    Name: Thunderstorm
    Lore: The odds of being struck by lightning twice in a row are extremely low, but it is sure to kill if they hit. This wand appears to work the same way, difficult to aim and attack with after an attack, but incredibly powerful. Mages across the provinces have tried to find out how the power in it could be harnessed, but all have failed.

    Speak about it all you like, on the Gavel changelog thread (or somewhere) Salted said something like "Want to use teleport as your main attack? Use specific gear and do it", but no teleport-damage gear is in the game.
     
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    I always liked the idea of a weapon designed for a specific spell.
     
  15. victorpotato2

    victorpotato2 Broke af HERO

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    This is very interesting
     
  16. SilverMirror

    SilverMirror Retired IM HERO

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    good concept, if you can tune down some of the absurd IDs and balance it a bit you can definitely make it work. I would suggest start from something like this https://wynndata.tk/ci/Custom-816535646
     
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    DragonEngineer Famous Adventurer HERO

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    What's wrong with my Week 1's item
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    https://wynndata.tk/ci/Custom-173163093

    Lore: The massive energy stored in the string of the bow fires every arrow at supersonic speed, so fast that it generates a turbulence behind, trapping any targets it hit. The holder of the bow will also feel this immerse energy, allowing them to move around quickly and dodge attacks, but makes them vulnerable to getting hit.
     
  18. SilverMirror

    SilverMirror Retired IM HERO

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    if you really think about it then you realise the fact that it is incredibly imbalanced, also making an item with a theme is not just about slapping as many drawbacks to force u into a specific play, its about making it enticing to use at that playstyle
     
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    victorpotato2 Broke af HERO

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    Tp does no dmg with that
     
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    SilverMirror Retired IM HERO

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