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I Am Sick And Tired Of This (csst Rant Incoming)

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  1. DragonEngineer

    DragonEngineer Famous Adventurer HERO

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    Lately I have been taking part in CSST parties to grind my 3rd Level 101 for my archer, haven't done it for a long time. But apparently the common situation you will find has gotten worse.

    A Dungeon bomb lasts 10 minutes, each run takes about 4 minutes, so there's enough time for 3 free entries.

    The thing is people are WALL HUGGING all the freaking time. And now with 100 players server, you get even more of those! Especially at the fighting room right before the boss fight.

    Why can't people actually be helping out with collecting tokens for the fighting rooms instead of hugging the wall and waiting for people to help them collect tokens? Those people shouldn't be allowed in CSST parties because it is slowing the progress down. There was once someone said "I am not wall hugging, I have contributed a total of 1 token". Like seriously why can't you help more? The number of wall huggers far surpasses the number of people actually helping to get the token.

    The only people who should be allowed to wall hug are the ones who contributed to the dungeon bombs and double xp bombs. The rest who came for the party expecting others to help you to get free EXP should honestly just leave, they get NO RIGHTS TO WALL HUG.

    Like seriously, if the party has like 30 people, if everyone just kill 1 mob from the fighting room before the boss fight, there will be 30 tokens almost instantly, and you can finish the CSST run even faster and you might even get to have the 4th entry within a single dungeon bomb.

    There's once I actually contributed 19 tokens (out of 30 required) to that fighting room before the boss fight, and the door hasn't open? Are people just too lazy to get them, where they can just kill one mob each and we all have 30 tokens total to open the door? You will get EXP for killing the mobs to get the tokens anyways, why not just maximise the EXP gains?

    Can we have just 1 really coordinated CSST where everyone just get 1 to 2 tokens each from mobs at the fighting room, so the whole CSST team will have 30 tokens almost instantly to proceed to the boss fight, and make CSST run flow like water?
     
  2. Pokextreme

    Pokextreme Avos Air Archer HERO

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    The reason why csst is so popular is because it is xp for literally no effort. People know the door will open anyways so why would they help
     
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    Sabitus Well-Known Adventurer

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    I use xp build and sage in csst for my mage,what can I do?
     
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    Pokextreme Avos Air Archer HERO

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    Equip any other weapon for 95% of the dungeon?
     
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    Sabitus Well-Known Adventurer

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    Why should I use another weapon and don't get some xp?For "not to be wallhugger"?
     
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    ThomAnn100 I have reached peak intelligence VIP+

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    The problem with the fighting bit is that if you go to far away, you'll be left behind, and if you don't, most of the monsters there will be dead so you can't kill that much. But yeah I agree with most other points, wall huggers suck unless they're like level 71 and can't really fight yet.
     
  7. Glenncrafter

    Glenncrafter A Collector & Proud Veteran CHAMPION

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    Some ppl like me use a bracelet called 'knucklebones' which gives you a lot of negatif life steal which makes melee a no-go.
    Also csst is very laggy for some ppl cause of how many ppl are doing it together, this will result in casting the wrong spells. Also fighting with lagg will lead to our death.

    And yes I have lowest settings on.
     
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  8. Stormarend

    Stormarend The classes DO NOT correspond with the elements.

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    You only need 15% damage to get a drop. You could triple the speed at which you finish the section by just spamming a couple of spells.
     
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  9. yellowscreen

    yellowscreen Certified Lurker

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    Oh please tell me how shooting arrow storm/meteor/uppercut/smoke bomb from a distance IN ANY WAY makes it harder or slower to fight.


    Back on main topic, i don't do CSST but this sounds really stupid and lazy. "Why should we work to get level 101 when we can just annoy other people and be a parasite to get the exp?" Because if you aren't lazy, you're more productive, get more exp, etc.
    This is one reason i think CSST should be further nerfed. People should work to get to level 100, not just hug the wall and do nothing except move foward and make the other people do the heavy lifting.
    I feel at this rate the issue might grow and the community might get more toxic, and that is not good for nobody. I hope this issue doesn't expand.
     
  10. Snerp

    Snerp Grand Terrainer Modeler HERO Builder

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    Imo what CSST has done to the game is (I'm not trying to insult anyone here)
    It has seriously oversaturated the endgame player pool with players who freeload off other players who put effort into doing things, but it's reached a point where people cause a bystander effect in a dungeon that was never meant for a lot of people, and was never meant to be as short as it is.
    Another major problem I don't understand is that people would prefer to do a repetitive and potentially frustrating dungeon, rather than properly exploring and playing the game, essentially skipping almost all the endgame content, imo some of the grind areas in sky islands are almost on par with CSST but people never use them as everybody is busy in CSST instead of playing in sky islands, it just dosent really add up.
     
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  11. YYGAYMER

    YYGAYMER reeeee FW FW Media HIC Master Featured Wynncraftian

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    so i decided to grind








    no, not even dcave or freezing heights
    they are dirty by the other reasons
     
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    ThomAnn100 I have reached peak intelligence VIP+

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    If the bracelet doesn't work for CSST, don't use it in CSST
     
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    Robbee Well-Known Adventurer

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    If everyone would just collect their tokens lying on the ground, the door would open almost instantly...
    But anyway, I wouldn't blame wall huggers that much. True, they don't contribute something, but they also don't slow down the progress. Even if they collect only one token, they already helped more than a person how don't attends the CSST at all.
    And with at least ~5 people collecting tokens it already goes so fast, that the larger problem are players grinding too much and don't throwing in their tokens.
     
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    ThomAnn100 I have reached peak intelligence VIP+

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    The thing is, somebody payed money for the dungeon bombs, I think the least you can do is help the group. Wall hugging is like going to a day for volunteers and take the cookies during the break but while you're supposed to help you're just player on your phone.
     
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    Bramblesthatcat Just a cat trying to be bing chilling CHAMPION

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    Do I have a story to rant about...
     
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    Theeef Owner of The Crossroads CHAMPION

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    Solution: Just fucking change CSST. As far as I see it the only reason it still works the way it does is because of how much money provides from bombs. It DEFINITELY is not because it provides anything to the gameplay
     
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    Glenncrafter A Collector & Proud Veteran CHAMPION

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  18. Avidify

    Avidify 10 > 50 stacks of LE in 1 month || Pricechecker CHAMPION

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    This ^^^^^^. Personally I have never touched CSST, but the sheer amount of relatively new players (Joined in the last <6 months) that I see gaining all these level 100's simply by abusing CSST has pretty much ruined the general satisfaction of reaching level 100-101; for me at least.


    Oh, then you have the people who have literally done CSST thousands upon thousands of times to reach top leaderboards, whilst passing all of the people who worked much harder to get there before csst was even a thing.
     
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    funnysillyman lil uzi fan GM

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    Do you honestly think that we are putting money in front of gameplay? I can't say anything, but that's just ridiculous. Everyone on the CT knows CSST is broken and ruins gameplay, it's just a matter of when it is changed.
     
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    i dont want to be rude but tbh thats what it looks like, csst is op af and it should be already "fixed"
     
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