Info Im Team Applications + Item Rebalance Changelog

Ok, you buffed more items ( mostly very minors buffs that rarely effect endgame builds or meta) but at the same time nerf a large amount of good endgame items commonly used in a builds. I'm not arguing that not enough items are being buffed, I should have clarified this, I'm arguing that you should balance the nerfs of important and commonly used items with other equally important buffs. So that way, every meta endgame build out there isn't constantly getting pooped on.

 

This is where my problem personally comes from with divzer. I adore the concept of a bow that rewards mechanical skill with high damage, but the problem is that archer, along with the other classes, don't require that much mechanical skill to hit there skill ceiling. Most of the difficulty comes from investing time to become succesful and designing builds. The skill ceiling for combat, however, is rather low. this allows Divzer to be able to be used to its fullest potential without even practicing.

 

I agree, it is very difficult to build, needing 125 dexterity. Yet, it you want to be good in combat, you also need mana, of which is actually harder to make with multiple elements, while maintaining positive defenses. On top of that, you have to build around the fact that YOU WONT BE DODGING any attacks, to which you are forced to use mana *intel* builds. to this, I find it is very balanced, and can be rewarding should you choose to use it correctly.

In it's defense, the bow has less base damage than Az does fully powdered, or pre-x5-nerf Az in base damage, to which you could slap 80 dex on your character, add no powders, and do 20k bombs like it was a joke. This bow, Divzer, has about 455 tops thunder dmg w/ powders, and that in itself caps at about 15-18k I believe without a build. The only REAL way you could consider this broken, is the fact that the bow has very little to no RNG to it. In fact, we're used to RNG in thunder mythics, from Fatal, to thrundacrack, even Az. Cataclysm as well has some RNG to it. If your curious, RNg is the dmg range. I.E. Fatal being 1-450 t-dmg. Literally a portable casino, as I call it.

Fact is, you have to consider ALL routes of playstyles, as crazy as they can be.

 

I agree with what you say, except that the point around it being difficult to build around. Not that its easy, quite the contrary. I'm still trying to come up with a great build for it. But notice how I said I'm. I have not looked at any premade builds around divzer yet. But I'm sure once a great build comes up utilized Divzer to its fullest potential, and gets released to the community, then everyone will jump onto that build or a build similar to that and viola, there goes the build difficulty. This, along with the fact that the lack of RNG, which I feel for a thunder weapon needs to be there, and I consider this bow to be a bit to strong.

 

You overstate the number of people that actually have access to info like "a meta divzer build"
Divzer seems really strong on paper, but I promise you when you try it it isnt overpowered

 

i thought it was pretty strong, and then a friend let me test theirs
i now think its even more op that before i tested?

 

I wonder did you test it by hitting Detlas citizens or try to solo LI

 

i didnt test in LI, ask @Golfbawl he did li with it
he said some of the bosses died in 15 seconds

 

Golf also uses pure glass.

 

Figures

 

One word, Gravity.

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He does with gma anyhow, so I assume the same.

 

yep he does

 

wow we got digested corpse, I cant wait for ohm's rage or gales sight xd

(Rip capri, bm)

 

I notice that even with very minor nerfs, everyone is like "rip, item is now 100% shit, burden to wear" but with buffs, no one cares.

 

Its quite obvious as to why, really. Regarding the nerfs we know the items that are getting a nerf, were very good and thus used in alot of builds. This ofcourse creates a major surprise to those who used it (a lot of people), and thats why you hear their voices so much.

As for items that are getting a buff, they (likely) were not populair in the first place, which is a reason you don't hear much talk about it. The main reason ofcourse is that these changes are all given on paper, and we have no way to test in in-game yet to see how good the new buffed {insert item name} really is.

Overall you are always going to get these same kinds of reactions, unless the buff is so significant that it creates hype for the item and outshines the nerfs.

Also a quick side note most complaints and discussions i have seen are about blue mask, which isnt a minor nerf at all.

 

Well, significant nerfs such as to Blue Mask I understand some whinging about, but lest we forget Ventus Tail's 1% spell damage nerf causing people to drop the item forever.

 

when you really think about it the blue mask nerf was lesser than the BPA nerf
while a larger portion of bm's hp was removed, that portion was 799 compared to 1k
either way, blue mask was indeed too strong

 

Yoooo Myrrh 3% spell damage nerf that's it I'm dropping it

 

To be fair, that's like 60% of its spell damage
But yeah I'm still gonna use it

 

no but actually though I'm using olive now