Shimmersight: New Design

Mind newer players who'll see it.

Not every single person who plays the game has done so for years or becomes instantly an expert at it; most people are pretty dang casual and don't even know about the forums until their third or fourth endgame class. We have to account for those players too, in order to make things good for everyone, and trust me. Seeing -XP bonus or -loot bonus, at any level...that is gonna sting. For anyone. -10 and -30 were chosen specifically so that newer players wouldn't immediately throw it out of their hands going "EEEEWWW" before they see the bonuses, while still keeping its general functionality.

You say it's easy to counter, and the XP? Sure, that's part of the point. It only used to have -10/-10 when it was first made, after all. It slowly crept upwards as its power did, but now that the power has been rolled back, those needed to sink in kind. The loot is far more meaningful at the level, as it'll hamper grinding in a way that makes the item "clingy". Since less items will drop or appear in loot chests, there's less a chance to get rid of Shimmersight for something better, and generally at endgame your progression is very much based on your gear. So, if you use it casually, you'll find yourself stuck with it for a very long time, and if you use loot gear to counter it, then you'll find your abilities hampered somewhat.

Of course experienced players like the majority of forumers would know to de-equip it. You've played the game a long time and are an active part of a community that scrutinizes and picks apart these kinds of stats on the regular. Newer players, however, are either going to fling it out of their hands like a hot potato, or end up stuck with it for awhile. It's a fine crutch-type item that's interesting in that it forces you to rely on the crutch for longer, but now it hasn't got a laser gun at the tip.

 

The item is far more balanced now since the SP bonus is worse than modulator by far.
Reasonging:
Builds that use 3 primary stats get +24 in total skills for a cost of 20 skill points from the other 'unused' skills, meaning there is a net gain of 4. That is very very good since most builds use items like vaward and/or gigabyte that dramatically lower the necessary skill point expenditure for rainbow/multi-requirement items and don't increase the requirement in those stats, effectively negating that low but broad skill point requirement, and giving considerably more HP than the next best helmet for SPs, blue mask. But shimmer will remain usefull for builds that use it as that SP slap item since the reduction was quite small all things considered.

 

This guy is eggsdee

 

I think you should nerf the health to something like 2300 or 2500 and lower the elemental defenses a bit. Then I think it will be balanced.

 

no u

 

What can I say, R.I.P Shimmersight and my build

 

There is some truth to that, but at that point in the game they should be already familiar with the item system and have been exposed to gimmicky items like suppression, Red Beard’s Hand Cannon, centipede, etc. My point is that you shouldn’t be afraid to throw a gimmicky item, especially since it’s lvl 93.

If Shimmer isn’t meant to be a gimmick item, then it’s not the end of the world, but it’s also not that good then for being a rare. Not everything has to be a gimmick, but you and other item makers have made this clear that it isn’t meant for grinding. Again, -30% loot bonus is still easy to overcome, and if that’s the point then what purpose does it have? Now that the mana has been reduced, there really isn’t much of a reason to use it since the Third Eye is better for mana and defenses and the Moderator for skill points. 1 mana does not get you far, the new mana doesn’t outweigh the skill points of the Moderator (especially since they’re guaranteed). Not to mention that it only have 100 less health now than Shimmer. Sure the Mod has requirements, but they aren’t that high compared to what you get with it.

Overall, Shimmer just doesn’t have a purpose anymore, and I’d rather have it have 3 mana and both -100% xp and lb than this.

 

I thought the skill bonus was the same as it was b4? That’s how it is on Wynndata anyway. That’s the thing, like you said you can just use Mod, Vaward, Gigabyte, or plenty of other better sp items. The sp wasn’t the main focus of what I was saying anyway. The item team has made it very clear that it wasn’t meant for grinding period, and if it doesn’t have good mana, gets outclassed by most other sp items, then there isn’t a purpose to it at all.

 

I agree with everything, but I thought they changed the max from 7 to 5, however, I am prone to being stewpid (not reading thoroughly enough) sometimes.

 

I don’t think they did bc of Wynndata and that a lot of people argued it would break builds and Selvut didn’t mention it in the change post.

 

yep we always only talk in base ids because thats what we use when making items as well

 

Not because of that, rather because it defines our limitations as evidenced by how we can't get 2 max mana.

 

#BringBackOldIntegers

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link build?

 

wot? .-. you are bad at explaining re we always talk in base ids so we just do it on here as well ._. thats all there is to it

 

https://wynndata.tk/s/xOG2l4 You can also use morrowind since you have 129int, with 3/4 shimmer and capri. 8 mana is just ok to cycle the spell under 129int.
This will anyways be completely dead after one hive update.

 

You literally need none of those skill point items.

 

By putting all the rest of sp on agi and help you survive longer.

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This is a lisolo build btw.

 

you are mage. .-.

 

I do not say it didn´t deserve this, but it now is WAY weaker than morph stardust

 

msd has reqs, this does not
that happens to make a very, very large difference