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Archer/Hunter Rate This Freedom Build?

Discussion in 'Class Builds' started by Merkena, Feb 26, 2018.

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  1. Merkena

    Merkena Well-Known Adventurer CHAMPION

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    Merkena Well-Known Adventurer CHAMPION

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    Mushtie Skilled Adventurer VIP+

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    ShadowMage1 Seraph of Twilight CHAMPION

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    Less elemental defense, more negative defense bonuses and less positive bonuses, negative life steal, and slightly less spell damage.

    No thanks.
     
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    Mushtie Skilled Adventurer VIP+

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    negative life steal in a spell build doesn't matter.
    6/4mr in a spell build isn't gonna work
    11/4mr will work with a spell build
    your elemental defence is already really good so it doesn't matter.
    600 less damage but DOUBLE the mana means you can theoretically use bombs twice as much. so like theoretically that means you deal 12k more damage
     
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    NicBOMB Maker of Builds | Lurks on Forums | 1 Mythic Found CHAMPION

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    yoooooooooooooooooooooooo Freedom is my shit
    https://wynndata.tk/s/eAgcSD and https://wynndata.tk/s/rMQcDb and https://wynndata.tk/s/bnSFUo
    as @ShadowMage1 stated, it's not generally better, but the mana regen is a huge boost. The loss of some damage in exchange for more spells is not really a 'loss' lol. Knowing when to get more raw damage or spell casts is what makes or breaks most spell builds. On the flip side: Spamming is nice, but only to an extent. My builds has more or less the same damage, but also capitalizes on the player needing to melee for curse, which activates mana stealing, essentially giving another source of mana than regen to the player. Also, diamond hydro is technically better than nebulous in terms of increasing freedom's damage since it has 10% spell. One of the builds is very SP tight, but you'd essentially be using the best freedom build possible (IMO, but please prove me wrong so I can use the better build instead). The build link with gigabyte is the best one IMO, since you'll get an almost guaranteed 75% spell cost reduction at 130 intel (1 mana escape, 2 mana bombs, 3 mana shields, 2 mana storms).
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    Rating: 8/10 since everything is good, but not quite perfect IMO. Mana regen is tiny bit low, don't need prisms to use Freedom (plus they drain your much needed HP), and the damage is in line with every other freedom build (12-14k bombs and 22-26k bombs w/curse)
     
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    Merkena Well-Known Adventurer CHAMPION

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    The gigabyte build is insane! Thank you so much for the reply. Very appreciated.
     
  8. Stormarend

    Stormarend The classes DO NOT correspond with the elements.

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    Mana cost increases as you cast more spells, therefor this is not true.
     
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    T-Flex At the gym HERO

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    I really like your build. It's something I'd defo use if I could afford it.
     
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    i eat bees i eat bees HERO

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    NicBOMB Maker of Builds | Lurks on Forums | 1 Mythic Found CHAMPION

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    That's why more mana regen helps cast more spells. You'd still have to stop to regen after spamming too much, but that regen puts you back into the fight quicker, and allows you to use mobility spells without having to cut too far into the mana for combat specific spells.
     
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    Mushtie Skilled Adventurer VIP+

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    hence the theorectically

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    or your swap spells to reset the mana cost
     
  13. Stormarend

    Stormarend The classes DO NOT correspond with the elements.

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    Of course it helps, it just doesn't double the amount of bombs you can cast, not even "theoretically".
     
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    Mushtie Skilled Adventurer VIP+

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    If your gonna send a message please don't quote mine. I get enough notifications as it is
     
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    NicBOMB Maker of Builds | Lurks on Forums | 1 Mythic Found CHAMPION

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    okay :wink:
     
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    Madkurre construction worker HERO

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    NicBOMB Maker of Builds | Lurks on Forums | 1 Mythic Found CHAMPION

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    you swapped anima for morph and vaward for dark channeler. Those are almost identical and morph even gives a bigger sp bonus than vaward. dark channeler just replaces anima's spell damage and further improves the water and thunder from powders. Honestly though, you can't get diamond hydro with the build, which is really sad. My gigabyte freedom can though. Personally I think mine is better, but for anyone that doesn't have hive but got a freedom should definitely use that with a group to do LI.
     
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    Madkurre construction worker HERO

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    nani the fuck anima vaward is identical to stardust dark-chan ok? ignore the 2mr and no -% damages you have with stardust dark-chan. stardust is a rainbow item, it gives rainbow defs and has a rainbow req while vaward only tosses you some sp and hp fuck that shit build making is art and your palette is made of feces.
    why put hydros on neb is just about the same as hydro bracelet damage wise, stellar is supreme as fuck and the rings died with the hydro nerf. oh it's intelligence you seek? fuck off you can easily get to 94 int with the build which gives 3 mana bombs at 8mr, thats plenty and if not your spell spam routine is inefficient
    twat
     
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    NicBOMB Maker of Builds | Lurks on Forums | 1 Mythic Found CHAMPION

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    that is the point I was making. Yours is almost identical but swapped the types of items (ie vaward the sp bonus item for stardust the sp item). Great minds think alike ;).
    I agree, but I gotta have the meme in my builds that need SPs like the vaward gigabyte build. However, your sacrificing 3 mana steal and 130 intel for 600 damage on bombs isn't good IMO. You'll probably get 1 more bomb or mobility spell cast for every curse barrage than with your build. And you can swap the diamond hydros for double suppressions and get some insane mana regen.
     
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