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What's Confusing About Gavel?

Discussion in 'Wynncraft' started by Grian, Feb 25, 2018.

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  1. ocu

    ocu penguin gang CHAMPION

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    its in kander
     
  2. Shanaaro

    Shanaaro . HERO

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    i think it's in dark forest but basically bordering kander
    not sure though
     
  3. Dr Zed

    Dr Zed Famous Adventurer HERO

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    The villain analogy doesn’t hold up because villains can have widely different motivations, morals, plans, and back stories. The Decay and the corruption just look different, except the corruption is better explained and intertwined than the Decay.
     
  4. ocu

    ocu penguin gang CHAMPION

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    by this you mean by like july? bc the updates have been taking 8 months at a time so lol

    (but i mean knowing this makes me feel a lot better in general when it comes to deadlines)
     
  5. Stormarend

    Stormarend The classes DO NOT correspond with the elements.

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    Here.

    Dullahan's mansion is in Kander Forest.
     
  6. captainganon

    captainganon God of k | Derpalope VIP+

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    well that's just not true

    apart from the last little bit
     
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  7. BethJerry

    BethJerry BFG 9000 CHAMPION

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    I think the Decay needs explaining. I'm confused with the sequence of events that started the Decay, because the events can be ordered in like 3 or 4 different ways because no solid information is given (that's not to say you should have a single quest explain literally everything about it. Have the details be slowly fed to us over a sequence of quests until we have the full picture).

    Also related to the Decay, what exactly does it do? Is the Decay the overall probem in Gavel or is it just one problem out of many problems?

    This question is just kinda personal to me, but do the villagers get their emeralds from Wynn alone or do they have their own source/mine to collect them?
     
  8. Dr Zed

    Dr Zed Famous Adventurer HERO

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    Well, I’d just rather learn about an Elvin god or who exactly runs Gavel instead of “Light is good and Darkness is bad.”
     
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    captainganon God of k | Derpalope VIP+

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    ok


    why are you bringing this up

    scratch that let's just end it here
     
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  10. GreatLordOz

    GreatLordOz Well-Known Adventurer

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    Although this isn't a suggestion to improve certain quests/lore, I was wondering if side quests could be created to run parallel to the regular main quests. As people have mentioned, there are quite a few quests that have weak lore or just don't make sense at all. However, instead of removing the quests that aren't going to be revamped, couldn't we make some less lore based content for less exp just so we have more of an RPG aspect to the game? Not everything about an RPG has to be drenched in lore and sometimes its nice to take a break to whack some orcs to find which one has a magical axe or beat up some weird pumpkin headed meat contraptions that really don't add to the "story" of wynncraft.
     
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  11. Tealy

    Tealy a businessman of sorts GM CHAMPION

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    The main concern for me is the Decay. It is largely still unanswered, or if it is, even I have not really figured it out. I have no idea what that Worm thing is, it's importance or whatever. The entire decay was brought up to but the "Corruption" of Gavel, but really it's just killed half a forest, and seems much smaller, despite Gavel being bigger, than the Corruption and Wynn.

    I clearly hope that this will be addressed with new quests/reworkings, but from what I've heard y'all are working more on Sky Islands and Molten Heights, which don't get me wrong, need working on desperately, but in terms of Lore, I'd like to know more about why the Decay happened, and what could possibly be done to help stop it.
     
  12. Mistrise Mystic

    Mistrise Mystic Surfing winds and chasing windfalls HERO

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    Actually, there's not really a main storyline yet, so technically ALL quests are side quests
     
  13. Jbip

    Jbip yea QA GM CHAMPION

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    Do not change The Ultimate Weapon it's perfect thanks bye
     
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  14. Thega

    Thega ```Interesting flavour text``` CHAMPION

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    In terms of terrain, I still don't know my way around the sky islands or Cotl.
    In terms of quests, Shrek is impossibly hard to find, and it's sort of a Lord of the clock thing for Gavel.
    The ahmsord cook's assistant thing, whatever it's called, is basically a scaled up cook's assistant, and while it is the most interesting fetch quest I've ever had, it is still just that.
     
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  15. Mistrise Mystic

    Mistrise Mystic Surfing winds and chasing windfalls HERO

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    To be fair, that's by design
     
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  16. GreatLordOz

    GreatLordOz Well-Known Adventurer

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    Correct, but for the purposes of my suggestion, lore heavy quests will be considered "main quests" while other lore light quests (Like get a bunch of items for no real reason other than to promote the species of the region) would be "side quests".

    On a side note for quest revamps, I would love to see Tower of Amnesia moved from Wynn to Gavel. Here is my suggestion for it:

    The tower of amnesia should be accessible around level 60 and could possibly tie into the Dullahan questline if its still around (Doesn't have to be but it would help promote the soulstealing lifeless gimmick). It should be converted into a tower of ascension-like clone but with a twist. Every time you step into the tower, you forget your true level and can only equip weapons and armor from levels 1-10. You'll still have the current number of skill points from your true level . You will then have to beat floors of enemies that are progressively higher levels and find out the source of the amnesia.
     
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  17. xKar

    xKar hello wants up CHAMPION

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    most of what i'm going to say is most probably said, but oh well.

    gavel, being the largest province on wynn yet, and possibly the first biggest project the ct worked on, needed some useless shit to be filled with, and all of us can definitely understand that, nothing and no one is perfect, but, one thing that annoys me to this day, how molten heights had 0 interests when making gavel.

    the whole place could've been a province, and honestly, pre-csst, that place was the most fun i've ever had on wynn, despite it having 0 quests. from small easter eggs to a giant dernic-ish portal, no large story line was made for it, which by far is the most disappointing thing this game has imo. dwarven lore can be read from weapons, discoveries, and easter eggs only, but no quests, and having a whole nation with their own region and history, opens the largest door for imagination and creation you can possibly think of when creating storylines for mmorpgs.

    now of course i am certain that you will look more into it, but, i have some suggestions for when you want to re-visit gavel, specifically the molten heights.
    • give more interest in grinding areas in molten heights. tmh (the molten heights) was the go-to place for grinding in high levels, but after csst, thats gone, and i dont think that should happen. mmorpgs are all about grinding, but shouldn't be as easy as doing a million csst runs in 10 minutes, thats kind of an abuse, but it isnt.
    • maex. consider making the town, larger you can say, with a mini bank and item buyer maybe.
    • the frozen heights. i mean, at least 1 easter egg for that place could do? area discovery is ok but eh.
    • just give more interest in to the top part in-general.
    NOTE: im not trying to bash the ct for "bad work," i truly appreciate their hard work, and i love this server, but i was just giving my opinion and suggestions, thanks for reading.

    @MysticalBlaze can i succi your ducci now?
     
  18. Altakar

    Altakar former 1000+ day counter moth Item Team

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    There's a lot of good stuff in Gavel. Examples include the quests Memory Paranoia, Shattered Minds, Flight in Distress, and whatnot, as well as a good majority of the builds. But there are also a lot of bad stuff. Questing in the Swamp, the Dark Forest, the Kander Forest, and the Canyon of the Lost just doesn't seem very fun. Gavel is kind of like a mixed bag. Some parts are done really well and others... not so much. Gavel is also really confusing(the light, the decay, the Guardian of the Forest, dwarves vs. Doguns, why the Sky Islands are the Sky Islands, etc), and not much ties it together.

    I'd like to point out that stuff that was promised a while ago(the Grootslang caves, probably an abandoned project by now; The Mortal Mountain, which I'd love to see; and something better than The Realm of Light)hasn't come out. So if Gavel gets a revamp, I'd like to see that.

    The most important part that no one else has pointed out: Please rework The Realm of Light. Taproot is good and Finding the Light is awesome! I don't want the questline to crash down like that.
     
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  19. ShadowMage1

    ShadowMage1 Seraph of Twilight CHAMPION

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    Aside from all the other stuff that people have pointed out, the only thing I feel needs to be addressed are the Two Towers. I really want to know what the significance of the Two Towers are since the Guardian of the Forest mentioned it like it was an important event.
     
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  20. CoolVictor2002

    CoolVictor2002 Dead meme expert,cyberbullied by NicBOMB CHAMPION

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    what's the big door supposed to do in olux? will we ever be able to use factory helmet ever again? (we could have done something with it in corkus because of all the machines)
     
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