Is Assassin The Worst Class

Eh, it's fine. It costs very little mana and can be used like charge.

 

Assassin is a tanky nuker. Only reason people should hate it is because you have to get in really close, which is where the defense comes in.

I don't hate it. I just like Archer more because mob farming is easier.

 

You don't see why archer has arrow shield, or escape spell. They are defensive not offensive. When the enemy gets too close, using that forces them away or you away to safety. Have you ever been melee hit while flying through the air with escape boost? I don't think so. The whole point is evasion. Even ranged enemies struggle to hit escaping archers. Arrow shield also flings all the enemies away and blinds them. Rather than intentionally running at enemies with the 3 defensive spells, try sitting back with arrow bombs and avoiding hits? Not exactly underpowered or in need of a buff, just a different way of thinking.

 

The problem with archer is that when you have server side lag or get swarmed, then you’re screwed. Some bosses such as CoW can cancel out your escape.

 

Which is made up for the fact that its the only effective movement spell in tight spaces

 

And that's another problem; for defensive spells, they're just not effective. Escape requires a large area to be effective, and arrow shield is largely mitigated by mob spells such as Meteor, teleport, and flamethrower, all of which deal damage at range and don't trip arrow shield. Not only that, but spells such as multihit cancel out escape.
Also, it says a lot about a dps class when it requires three different defensive/utility spells and relies on only one offensive spell.

 

They do trip it sometimes, but don't fling enemies. It just drops the shield and launches the arrow volley.

Agreed escape is more situational. Small areas like matrojan arena and others are a pain to maneuver. The whole point is to use escape to evade the mutli hit before it come close to hitting. If it hits the Archer it definitely should fully activate regardless of the Archer casting escape or not. It does say a lot. I think the defense (raw for class) could use a tiny buff, arrow shield needs a huge rework, arrow storm is trash unless all of the arrows hit a mob stuck in a corner or up close, and melee archers are dead .

 

well, assasin WAS good waaaaaay before any rank could access this class. like how you only had to be VIP to get the assassin. i can see why with the huge amount of damage it does, but after the debuffs on this class, its been getting way worse. i dont really use it since it doesnt have a way to get around places besides the small amount of speed and jump boost it gives with vanish. sure vanish give a little jump right as you cast the spell, but compare that with the archer, it gives speed and one of the best mobility spells in the game. its smoke-bomb and spin-attack spells are just normal and multi hits, lets try not to get to that subject

 

Assassin was overpowered as hell back in the day. 2000% Multihit and 115 base defense? (Warrior has 120!) Of course it got nerfed when Gavel released.

I don't know what you mean by "its been getting way worse", it just got a multihit buff not too long ago. Multihit now does 420% total damage.

 

well some good and bas stuff have been happening to the class. but like 75% of it was bad

 

Archer has much lower base defense(40% less to be exact) and has lower average damage

 

W H A T

 

Yeah, no joke. Assassin was basically a better Warrior back then.

Combine that with the fact that Multihit also used to trigger Lifesteal and Mana steal and you have a monster of a class.

As far as I know, after the Gavel update nerf any balance changes to Assassin have been buffs. So I highly doubt "75% of it was bad".

 

i mean
i am a veteran, i know what assassin used to be with its damage and life+mana steal abuse but...
2000%? really?

 

Maybe I'm mis-remembering things, but I know I've seen the "2000%" floating around the forums in the past, both before and after Gavel's release. @Selvut283 could you confirm?

 

ive only played archer and warrior so this is from my POV
Let's just not forget the fact that archer's arrow shield comes with insane blindness (can't remember how long exactly but I can get at least 3 arrow storms into the boss). i just repeat this until I've won. Of course, timing is very important along with good mana regen . doing this makes arrow shield and extremely powerful offensive and defensive ability, almost to the point where I feel like I'm abusing it. That's one of the main reasons I think archer is still good.
Edit- I dunno when this conversation spiralled to archers and mages and warriors but hey it's cool

 

Why is everyone complaining about escape? Escape is the best movement spell hands-down, huge vertical + horizontal boost, hovering mid-air, and damage + blindness on shifting? So what if it isn't as busted in small rooms, every ability has to have some sort of downside.

Arrow shield, on the other hand, is awful; no reason to use it over escape's slam or arrow bomb. It's extremely useful for if an enemy some how slips past your knockback spam, but other than that it's just a mana sink. Arrow storm on the other hand, just sucks. All it deals is knockback, unless an enemy is stuck in a corner but then you have to be super close and they'll melt your face off with a flamethrower or multihit. IMO arrow storm should deal 0 knockback, allowing you to stun enemies in place and rack up damage (you know, making it useful). Meanwhile, Arrow Shield should have a bigger range for it to trigger so mobs don't hit you before it triggers due to lag, and it should have a sort of HP bar that blocks it from so much flamethrower damage. (30% of your HP?)

 

It was 2000%. I believe it was only b4 Gavel though.

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Arrow shield is already OP, it doesn’t need a buff in anyway, shape, or form. 1) It does too much damage 2) It’s glitched to where the actual range is larger than the arrow radius 3) It lasts for too long. Selvut gave these and more reasons before for why it should be nerfed.

If it also blocked flamethrower damage, it would make escape redundant. It blocks you from all melee damage from all sides. We don’t need it to even partially block spells.

 

Honestly I completely agree with this part too. If you're good enough you can even turn the vertical boost almost completely into flat horizontal boost instead with little to no hovering. It still sucks in small spaces but the bosses in small arenas are typically reliant on close quarters combat anyways. Use arrow shield instead of escape at that point.

Here is where we completely diverge. Arrow shield is kinda stoopid rn and in some cases (really all of them. too much damage, blindness, huge variety of elements, the list continues) OP as @Selvut283 (not sorry for the notification tehe) and I talked about in a news thread which I can't remember the name of rn. I agree with you on arrow storm. I got the feeling @Selvut283 does too. I really really really don't like your HP bar suggestion as it stands. of course it is not a suggestion thread, but still. Adding hp to the shield as a sort of layer against attacks + catapulting enemies + blindness = OP+Godlike+wtf (not any specific order of addition).

Yea lag is lag. The goal is for there to not be lag in the first place so removing that from the equation archer is fine, but your point is completely valid. Lag is a real problem that players actually have to deal with, myself included as an archer main. I actually have to play wynncraft on an ethernet cable but still get bad spikes cuz IDK, server stuff. Anywho those are my 2 cents on many topics involving why archer is not the worst or best, but assassin is IMO on par or worse than EDIT: the other classes (I wrote assassin twice lol). My rankings:
1. Mage
2. Warrior
3. Archer
4. Assassin
I wish the rankings weren't so easy for me to chose, and I don't even have a high level mage, but I can see the capabilities of a mage or warrior even without playing them. I think the mobility spell is really where assassin falls short IMO. Spin is great, smoke bomb is excellent, multi-hit isn't my favorite but I have seen others like it a lot and can concur. Vanish is just bad though. I think the turning invisible part isn't really the iconic part, so changing vanish would be nice IMO. Any suggestions for replacements should definitely pop up in the other part of the forum though, and I won't try making this post any longer than it already is.

 

They have smth called negative knockback, so when u fire arrow storm, they come closer to u and one hit ko u. Also, even if u knock it back, it can just charge in ur face and GG rip soul points. The only thing capable of soloing legendary island for an archer is probably an ignis build