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Archer/Hunter The Toinnnnnnnk

Discussion in 'Class Builds' started by Tek, Jan 28, 2018.

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  1. Jaymon

    Jaymon best on server VIP+

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    ok bro here u go, stayed up for ages making this. https://wynndata.tk/s/SteVl0
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    hey theres this thing called agility
     
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  2. Diero

    Diero Diero HERO

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    wow mana steal is such a reliable source of mana
     
  3. Diero

    Diero Diero HERO

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    "It's hard to win an argument with a smart person, but it's damn near impossible to win an argument with a stupid person." ~ Bill Murray
     
  4. Madkurre

    Madkurre construction worker

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    since you dont seem to have an issue with multihive
    https://wynndata.tk/s/AktKvo
    if you like building or wynn dont even click that link I just replaced bm with anima and am now feeling bad
     
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  5. *EpicJay*

    *EpicJay* Newbie adventurer VIP+

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    I think I saw some builds with 20k crits
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    https://wynndata.tk/s/t8Iglv
    22k crit bombs
     
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  6. Tek

    Tek Profficient and gallant. Wise yet inscrutable

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    Ok then make me a better build then talk
     
  7. NicBOMB

    NicBOMB Maker of Builds | Lurks on Forums | 1 Mythic Found CHAMPION

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    raw not critical. you just have to roll for good damage
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    [​IMG] what have you done *dies of hive overdose*
     
  8. NicBOMB

    NicBOMB Maker of Builds | Lurks on Forums | 1 Mythic Found CHAMPION

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    Tek, I don't think you understand that just slapping hive onto everything is not the best way to make a good build.
    Let me go over the reasons why the build you posted is a waste of a mythic and 2 hive master vouchers. This should be an informative post for you, as you clearly don't understand what makes a build good or bad. This will inform your what is bad about the build.
    #1 double hive and it doesn't even have 1/4 mr. You just can't get enough mana to cast lots of bombs.
    #2 300 Life steal is not a lot and won't be regenerating your hp (all 15k of it) fast enough. Plus the goal is to use bombs and not melee, so you will rarely if ever actually melee to use that life steal.
    #3 double prism
    #4 gaea-hewn
    #5 barely 10k bombs with 2xhive master, 2xprism, and a mythic
    #6
    1 Hive Master and Water, 1 Mythic https://wynndata.tk/s/k5lNji
    0 Hive Items, 1 Mythic https://wynndata.tk/s/GtLJPp
    0 Hive, 0 LI, 0 Mythic, Basic Legends or Lower https://wynndata.tk/s/WJQK8V
    All three of these are better than your build. I'd say the last one comes closest to being worse but that is to be expected with 0 end game content items compared to a build with far too many.
    #7 Honestly I think double hive is fine if you don't need double prisms too. Double prisms and Blue Mask is just silly, and @Madkurre is gonna kill me with those multi hive builds. @Tek you seem determined to ignore the community that is trying to help you understand what the class builds section is all about. It is almost a science at this point. That means it can be taught, just like a school subject, the only difference is there aren't really classes for this kind of thing. Rather, you have to get input from others and chose to accept input from people you think you can trust. All I see you doing is pushing other's voices away. Whether you listen to the community in the future or not, I hope you still enjoy playing wynncraft. Just know that we want everyone to have the best build they can, but not like this. I hope my serious/sincere tone worked out in that last segment. :wink:
     
  9. NicBOMB

    NicBOMB Maker of Builds | Lurks on Forums | 1 Mythic Found CHAMPION

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    Now for a post where I detail what is good about the build. Didn't see that coming now did you?
    #1 Disregarding the lack of mana, bombs will actually do very good damage.
    #2 Very High elemental defenses. One of the most important aspects of a tank build. You certainly got this one right, and even used one of the new items. I like it ;)
    #3 Life Steal is very good on tank builds for soloing end game bosses, however this build could use a lot more, but definately the right direction.
    #4 Plenty of SPs. This is a problem for lots of builders, but you seem to have found the items that most people use to greatly increase the variety of items they equip. Unfortunately you miight have used too many, and also used all of them in the original build link, but that isn't the end of the world either. In the future, I'd suggest not actually putting any of the extra SPs into stats, or posting 2 links. One for no extra SPs left, and one with all the extra SPs available untouched. This is so that the build viewers can see exactly how many SPs on their items they will need. It's more of a nice thing to do, than a requirement. Just a thought.
    #5 Good Powder Choice. You seem to know what powders to use on your builds, but it was very obvious from the -% in all the other elements. It might be coincidence, but do try and experiment with lots of powders and different orders of applying powders, as it can change the damage output quite dramatically depending on exactly what slot the powders take (their order).
    #6 Intelligence. This one is typically the last thing people making builds check before finalizing. You seem to know hitting 68 intel is great for build making, but I'd suggest not relying too much on the extra SPs to do so. Sometimes it doesn't always work out.

    Anyways, I didn't want to drop an overly mean or aggressive post and leave, so I made this one. I do see potential for you to make great builds just as well as any of us from the various parts of the class builds section, but be open to advice. I think you are onto your 5th or 6th class builds post where you've gotten a lot of responses, but I haven't seen a whole lot of change/improvement from the previous ones. Please do take a closer look at these posts. We are trying to help, or being rude *staring @Diero *(yea that bill murry quote was sooo funny *sarcastically*, only dropped a like cause it was *somewhat* clever, but I need to make an adjustment:
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  10. Tek

    Tek Profficient and gallant. Wise yet inscrutable

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    First of all, tysm guys for making great build suggestions. I understand that my build might have caused a lot of controversy since i am trying smth entirely new(the toinnnnnnk archa!!)ok anyways, @NicBOMB, i agree with u that my mana regen is too low, and the lifesteal probably wont do much. Undoubtedly, the first two builds u made r great, DMG wise. I will try to make a fusion from the two builds(taking good things from both and putting them together) however, i am rly curious to test how a tank archer does against bosses and cata, alkatraz, and freedom dmgers. I dont think that anyone has ever tried a tank archer before... i have high hopes, but i guess theres only one way to find out
     
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  11. Diero

    Diero Diero HERO

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    try to use that build in game gl trying to deal damage
     
  12. Tek

    Tek Profficient and gallant. Wise yet inscrutable

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    7k to 14k bombs r pretty decent, they r not the best, obviously, but still enough.
     
  13. NicBOMB

    NicBOMB Maker of Builds | Lurks on Forums | 1 Mythic Found CHAMPION

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    again, that is very good. not just acceptable. any build with 7-10k would be "decent", but 7-14 is very good.
     
  14. The Demon Queen

    The Demon Queen Queen of Darkness, Queen of Evil

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    you speak too highly of his build, do you realize that it has no mana regen?
    your spells are as good as useless
     
  15. Tek

    Tek Profficient and gallant. Wise yet inscrutable

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    Yea u r right. Im still optimizing the accessories to get at least 3/4 :D
     
  16. cjshra01

    cjshra01 Well-Known Adventurer CHAMPION

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    You know, before I read the replies I thought this was some pretty funny satire.
     
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