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Info Item Id Rounding Changes: Could Break Builds! Please Read!

Discussion in 'News & Patches' started by Selvut283, Nov 27, 2017.

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Do you think this will be a positive influence on the game as a whole?

  1. Yes.

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    36.4%
  2. Sort of.

    72 vote(s)
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  3. No.

    68 vote(s)
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  1. SUPER M

    SUPER M shoop CHAMPION

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    Were you seriously expecting anything diferent?
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  2. Shiroe

    Shiroe Read My Signature to Discover A New World

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    It's recommended to change the base stat now or revoke this
    Why?
    If this was intentioned to fix the "rounding" of the stats, you are telling all the players who were dedicated to discover more game mechanics that you are playing a "fake" wynncraft.

    If you rewrite the base identifications it will take an improbable amount of work, therefore this is not an postive impact, I presume the only reason people vote yes because the information was not transparent
     
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  3. Dalarn

    Dalarn Useless content

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    It is confirmed, by the tyrant himself..

    His killing us all. All of our hopes, our dreams..and the nerf of death shall come. xD

    Help..his killing us.
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    He's taking over wynn. I Saw him and Lord conspire about the new wynnish order.
     
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  4. Terrence23

    Terrence23 The Strongest Sistercon Assassin in wynncraft VIP+

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    so u mean all 2/4 mana regen will become 1/4? except those fixed id gear? u call this balancing? its called ruining
     
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  5. Selvut283

    Selvut283 Circadian rhythm stuck on Tokyo time ♪ Music Item Team GM CHAMPION

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    No, it's called balancing. You're just too used to being overpowered.
     
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  6. Risu

    Risu Famous Adventurer

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    Definitely not a good idea to modify item data frequently in a RPG game at the first place. Not to mention that the unstable player bases might be driven away even further after the update. Not to mention those unstable player bases might be driven away even further. Plus, it’s not fun to destroy people’s build again and again, correct?
    Nevertheless, the old system doesn’t do that to the players. It is fair as far as in the players’ opinions because we spent time mastering the old system and we don’t wish to waste all the time we spent. Maybe y’all need to care more about what the players want rather than changing the game itself.
     
  7. J0nSn0w

    J0nSn0w Well-Known Adventurer CHAMPION

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    They should at least reset the rolls to 0 again.

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    lmfao, youre not even trying anymore, to not go full meme.
     
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  8. Selvut283

    Selvut283 Circadian rhythm stuck on Tokyo time ♪ Music Item Team GM CHAMPION

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    People had the exact same reaction when we removed the 10 mana uniques and changed around the spell damage formula to de-oppify raw spell damage. It's a knee-jerk "Oh, my overpoweredness is gone! How dare they!"
    If we didn't change this we WOULD have had to change the game itself. Mana was far too easy to accumulate, along with attack tier, probably the two most powerful IDs in the game. It really was either change this, or buff up the entire rest of the game to compensate for the extra power that had inadvertently been put into your hands.
     
  9. Emilia

    Emilia Sand Eater VIP+

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    Its quite an interesting discussion we have here.

    First of all, lets put aside all the comments that weren’t mean to be constructive. Being as candid as I could, I think @Selvut283 doesn’t deserve some of the “attacks” here. Undeniably, rebalancing and doing the entire system is definitely not an easy job, not to mention that he himself also worked very diligently on this new system. The wynncraft community should, at the very basic, be glad for having such an enthusiastic contributor.

    However, looking over the rest of these comments, it is not hard to tell that his hard works don’t seem to create the effect as expected. Me, along with many people I know, will all “suffer” from some features of this update. Many of our builds are significantly weakened and it is very disappointing to see that both the players and selvut himself are not satisfied or credited as they originally should.

    Afterall, the ultimate goal is to make the best out of selvut’s effort and make the best of our enjoyment playing this game. Rebalancing is definitely not a bad thing; the only thing that matters is the way things are rebalanced. Yes, Selvut is a good and diligent mod, but he being a mod doesn’t represent us all. In a server with this scale, the majority of feedbacks can really mean something, and maybe this majority should be taken into more considerations while encountering important situations of making dramatic changes in-game.
     
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  10. Risu

    Risu Famous Adventurer

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    do x/5s or x/6s mana regen
     
  11. Stag2001

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    That's not up to him, but up to the devs. That's nerfing mana regen as a whole, which wasn't Selvut's intention anyway.
     
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    I think he is trying to balance everything until everyone is using a pair of diamond armor and a diamond sword without enchantments.
     
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    Stag2001 360 mlg hipster cat CHAMPION

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    I don't think so. Otherwise he wouldn't be creating (almost) all the items in the game in the first place, hm?
     
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  14. highbread

    highbread highbread HERO

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    People are saying the balances are unfair, but are they?
    With my current Wall Breaker build that is about to be "ruined" I could theoretically AFK farm in Frozen Heights by looking straight down and turning on an autoclicker to constantly attack. It does so much damage that they die before they can even reach me. And that's with Earth damage, against mobs with Earth defense.
    Although it will be disappointing to change up the build, I think it is needed.
     
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  15. Stycore

    Stycore some random golem CHAMPION

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    which armor do you use?
     
  16. Major_Lue

    Major_Lue Famous Adventurer HERO

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    It's incredibly hard to balance stats with a base of 1 (mana regen and attack tier). The difference between 1 and 2 is absolutely massive. It's impossible to balance attack tier correctly with it being 2 tier (accumulated way too easily) or to balance mana regen to make items such as Myrrh or 2x Black Catalyst viable. It's a step in the right direction to more easily balance the game. It's a shame this wasn't here from the start (if it was, literally no one would be complaining) but at least we're getting it now.
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    Nice exaggeration. Especially when that's blatantly not the case.
     
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  17. NicBOMB

    NicBOMB Maker of Builds | Lurks on Forums | 1 Mythic Found CHAMPION

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    This is exactly what I thought! Now more items that didn't have 2/4 or were locked at 1/4 will become viable for the first time. Although, I'd like a list of items that this affects, especially those that are most affected, if anyone has that ;)
     
  18. Stycore

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    yeah because I wouldn't have spent stacks of LE for trash builds
     
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    Major_Lue Famous Adventurer HERO

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    Considering everything got scaled the same way, your build is going to be on par with everyone else lol.
     
  20. Stycore

    Stycore some random golem CHAMPION

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    nah not really
     
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