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Info Item Id Rounding Changes: Could Break Builds! Please Read!

Discussion in 'News & Patches' started by Selvut283, Nov 27, 2017.

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Do you think this will be a positive influence on the game as a whole?

  1. Yes.

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  2. Sort of.

    72 vote(s)
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  3. No.

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  1. SilverMirror

    SilverMirror Retired IM HERO

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    only mythic melee build is remotely close to being overpowered, none mythic melee builds are weak af with loads of flaws, now that this indirect nerf on existing melee items just gonna make melee a even less viable option

    all items with rollable 2/4 mana r basically dead including capri, stardust, concentration and summa and wt not, which r the popular mana builds item options

    jeez this is really bad, especially after they increased most item's sp requirement

    EDIT: detail analysis click this link https://forums.wynncraft.com/thread...ts-on-build-making-and-game-balancing.209545/
     
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  2. coolaccountname

    coolaccountname pro gamer VIP

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    there goes my build.. :'(
     
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  3. Totum

    Totum watching mythics lose value HERO

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    Any non-mythic either
    - was super-glass
    - or didnt do much dps.
    Spells, no doubt, will dominate the game. Assassin and Warrior are now pretty rip with melee.
     
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  4. Lexwomy

    Lexwomy Lexwomy HERO

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    wait grandmother doesn't have double digit health regen
     
  5. Dr Zed

    Dr Zed Famous Adventurer HERO

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    Then Selvut can just nerf spells >:)
     
  6. coolaccountname

    coolaccountname pro gamer VIP

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    tfw you buy the last item for your build and all of the sp requirements were perfectly fit together, then a day later you read about this update. rip sp requirements </3
     
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  7. Totum

    Totum watching mythics lose value HERO

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    if that happens, all pve just gets alot harder.
     
  8. Stycore

    Stycore some random golem CHAMPION

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    ikr;-;
    same rip

    also I just realised my water build is fucked now as well
     
  9. Golfbawl

    Golfbawl [] CHAMPION

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    Respectively, that's sort of what this game needs. PvE is a joke right now honestly, it's so easy that I can solo LI with almost any class and my water build, probably with my eyes closed.
     
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  10. Dr Zed

    Dr Zed Famous Adventurer HERO

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    Perhaps that’s not a bad thing. Wynncraft does feels too easy, but nerfing damage may not entirely solve it. Most games like Binding of Isaac, Hollow Knight, and Enter the Gungeon have a dodging element to them that keeps the player on their feet. Idk how to properly implement that in a 3D space, let alone in Minecraft.
     
  11. e!

    e! ⁣e HERO

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    You guys had a lot of fun with code refactor, did you?
     
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  12. Dalarn

    Dalarn Useless content

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    @Selvut283 tell me if centipede still having +2 tier. And guys, should I sell my alka then x.x. Or will there be another build for it.
     
  13. The Demon Queen

    The Demon Queen Queen of Darkness, Queen of Evil CHAMPION

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    centipede should not be affected by this, as it is an item with predetermined ids
     
  14. Major_Lue

    Major_Lue Famous Adventurer HERO

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    Centipede is unaffected by rounding changes because it is a merchant item with fixed stats.
     
  15. Dalarn

    Dalarn Useless content

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    Good, what about moon pool circlet, i guess its the same. So hive/dungeon stuff will become Op
    essentially.
     
  16. Cosomos

    Cosomos Well-Known Adventurer

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    actually id's with only 1 as a base will have a 20% chance of rounding down to 0
    and id's with a base of 5 will have a 1% of getting a 7, that is twice as rare as a getting a 10 on the current morph stardust.
     
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    DragonEngineer Famous Adventurer HERO

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    @Selvut283 does this mean Gravity will have -1 Tier to -3 Tier?
     
  18. Saya

    Saya you win at uwynn HERO

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    rip concentration
     
  19. Cosomos

    Cosomos Well-Known Adventurer

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    Here is roughly the new chances of id's with a base of 1-10
    1: 0, 20%| 1, 81%*
    2: 1, 45%| 2, 50%| 3, 6%*
    3: 1, 20%| 2-3, 33.3%| 4, 14.3%*
    4: 1, 7.5%| 2-4, 25%| 5, 18.5%*
    5: 2-6, 20%| 7, 1%*
    6: 2, 11.7%| 3-7, 16.6%| 8, 6%*
    7: 2, 5.7%| 3-8, 14.3%| 9, 9.6%*
    8: 2, 1.3%| 3-9, 12.5%| 4, 12.2%*
    9: 3, 20%| 4-11, 33.3%| 4, 14.3%*
    10: 3, 5%| 4-12, 10%| 13, 6%*
    *1% was added to represent the fact that positive ID's have 101 different multipliers for the base(it just works and is hard to word)
     
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  20. Major_Lue

    Major_Lue Famous Adventurer HERO

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    All merchant items are unaffected by this change.
     
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