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Discussion in 'Wynncraft' started by M4x1mum, Oct 10, 2017.

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  1. M4x1mum

    M4x1mum Antisocial CHAMPION

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    i know that guild wars are bugged for quite a long time but guilds are still claiming locations, everytime i try no mobs spawn, is it like that its impossible alone or do i have to do anything to trigger the mobs to spawn? or is it totally random?
     
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    Thilyzh_ Adventurous ghillie soldier VIP+

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    Guild wars are very bugged, like you said yourself.
    The short answer is that sometimes they work, some times they don't. Nobody truely when or why.
    If you really want to war, try different territories on different servers at different times of the day. There is really no way of telling if they work at any given moment unless you try.
     
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    Simplers Well-Known Adventurer VIP+

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    Just give up on guilds mate.
    There's a reason why guilds like Hax are controlling most of the territories, and that's because of the death of guilds. If guilds weren't broken
    I don't believe that there are more than 5 legio members who currently play. Many of us quit because guilds got screwed over, I finally left TNA after trying for 2 years. Like guilds were our sense of purpose, some of us tried getting back into it after gavel was released but that just made everything more complicated and didn't fix the issues of guilds by adding in more guild territories which were broken.
    So yeah, to sum up, people don't play for guilds anymore. Don't bother, it's not worth it.

    EDIT: For all of you players who don't know, Legio Praetoria was a treaty between the top guilds in 2014 and early 2015 before guilds completely broke. It was mainly consisting of the top 4 guilds, TNA, Fuq, KnV and Imp, we had lots of fun with wars. There were also a few subguilds, one of which I owned. It was sad to see how many old players lost their sense of purpose after guilds broke.

    Oh and btw if you want to be a good guild you need to get on your knees for staff and get them to like you which is in my opinion fucked up, as TNA asked for many months to be manually levelled up when guilds broke (we were 1st at the time). And well ya see staff got pissed and salty and whatnot so they didn't level us (even though we were stuck on -151%xp at lvl51 for legitimately like half a year at the time [its been like 2 years now]).
    So yeah, if you want to be good at guilds, get on your knees and get manually levelled like Hax and Lib.

    P.S. Don't get me wrong, not saying all legio players quit because of guilds breaking, but it certainly contributed to many players quitting.
     
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  4. Thilyzh_

    Thilyzh_ Adventurous ghillie soldier VIP+

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    Firstly, Hax was flipped off the throne not long ago. Now the playing field is more level and fair which means wars are actually something to go do again.

    Secondly, you don't need a "good guild" or "get on your knees for staff" to have fun with guilds. Guild leveling can be done by the players in the guild like it is supposed to. Not every guild is out there to get all territories or be on top.
    I can't imagine staff being very fond of manually leveling guilds either. That does not help solving a broken feature, rather the opposite.

    Guilds might not be worth it if you strive to be on top. But guilds can be far more than that.
    Originally guilds where meant as sort of "permanent parties", and funny enough, that part actually works and is a fun feature to be a part of.

    Don't get me wrong, you're correct in most of your points. I just believe you have overdone your rant in the wrong place.
     
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    Simplers Well-Known Adventurer VIP+

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    Oh cool, good to know that Hax is no longer on top. I haven't played in a very long time so I wouldn't know. Regardless of whether or not there is a guild on top, when you say that wars are actually something to go do again, my point still stands. They're so broken the only people who can control all territories are high levelled players in the top guild. Lower levels don't even try anymore. It's not worth it because guild wars rarely ever work anymore and even if they do low levels are unable to repeatedly attack a territory to attempt to claim it.

    I remember in late 2014 before I joined TNA and I was a mere lvl40 skrub I seriously really enjoyed the guild system. I mean, who wouldn't enjoy soloing bobs and CoWs at level 40, along with swarms of lvl70 mobs? That shit was fun as hell. I get that it is difficult to fix this issue, but it's been like 2-2 1/2 years, the Wynn staff need to get their act together. For the sake of old players who have played since the very beginning, I believe that guilds should've taken priority before simply just adding in new quests and islands and expansions such as corkus and whatnot.

    So in response to your first statement, as guild wars are broken, the playing field is as unlevel and unfair as it has ever been. Smaller guilds had something to aim for, I remember attacking Nesaak and Almuj for a week roughly 15 hours a day with my guild for an entire week. We were low levelled. That kind of dedication resulted in us becoming a legio subguild, and this kind of dedication does not occur nowadays with the broken system.

    Secondly, in response to you saying "guild leveling (which is spelt wrong fyi) can be done by players in the guild like it is supposed to" that statement is completely untrue and false. If you had, in fact, read my previous message you would understand why. We have been stuck at a NEGATIVE percentage (I believe it should still be -151%) for 2 years.
    I owned one of the first guilds to glitch, although I didn't realise why until much later.
    Basically we had a shit tonne of guild spirit going, and as my name was HDElectro101 at the time, lots of people in my guild at the time decided it would be a good idea to put a HD in front of their name. Only later did I realise that name changes broke guilds.
    Sure, staff aren't fond with manually levelling guilds. I agree with you. My problem is that they are selective with who they level and so overly and openly bias about it. TNA was the first guild to experience the XP glitch. We submitted more manual levelling requests than any other guild at the time. We earned more XP than any other guild at the time. What did the staff do about it? Absolutely nothing, and decided to manually level other guilds that they liked more. That's serious bullshit right there.

    Furthermore, sure guilds are kind of like permanent parties. But they're not worth it anymore. If you join a guild you yourself become glitched. If you read all of my previous message you would see that I was stuck in TNA for over 2 years. Not only did I lose my incentive to play after all my Legio friends quit (and TNA became dead), but I could not even leave and join an active guild, no matter how much I tried. I legitimately used hundreds of soul points attempting to leave the guild.

    And yeah, I understand that this isn't in the right place but regardless this is something that needs to be addressed. I'm sick and tired of this shit and I will probably never come back to Wynncraft, but for the sake of future players, and because I loved this server so much, I want the WynnStaff to recognise the importance of what I am talking about, and to get their act together.

    SO, WYNN DEVELOPMENT TEAM... GET YOUR SHIT TOGETHER. It's sad to see how much an integral part of the server has died, and how thousands of hours that many old players put in have been wasted simply because developing new regions was prioritised before fixing guilds.

    How about we as a COMMUNITY recognise the need to not simply just introduce new content (which I know is beneficial for new players) but actually support older players by fixing this integral system?

    ~A player that misses the glory days of this server very much.

    EDIT: Shit just realised this is probably the longest post I've ever made on these forums.
     
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  6. orange0404

    orange0404 corkus is actually here HERO

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    we have discord for a reason
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    the only way we stayed on top was through somewhat bypassing glitches by warring 24/7
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    imagine the grind for 101 throuh csst
    now multiply that by 100
     
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  7. Thilyzh_

    Thilyzh_ Adventurous ghillie soldier VIP+

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    Levelling guilds might not work for already glitched guilds like yours, but far from all are.
    I never said anything about low-leveled guilds. The higher the guild level is, the easier it gets taking territories, obviously.
    The staff team, the content team, the community, everyone knows guilds are broken. A fix is being worked on, and has been for a while. It just takes time, but it should be coming soon(TM).

    If you want to discuss this further, you can make a seperate thread, or take it to PM. I would highly suggest the latter, based on my third point about the playerbase already knowing. Anyway this is really not the place.



    The original question has been answered.
     
  8. Simplers

    Simplers Well-Known Adventurer VIP+

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    I know it has been, I'm just having a discussion now.
    I've checked your guild, it's level 40. You probably have no idea what some players have gone through.
    To understand what I mean, you have to be a player who was active around the time of the fall of guilds. I know everyone knows guilds are broken. You did say things about low levelled guilds, because you said it was a "level playing field" which it clearly isn't. And regardless, my point fucking stands either way. Actually read before you reply.

    In a lvl5 guild at lvl40 I managed to put up a decent fight against the #1 guild in 2014. I could solo territories, and take over quite a bit of land. It doesn't work that way nowadays. You can't wear down defences fast enough as a low level because 90% of the time wars don't work. That means by the time ur even close to finishing, the guild has bought new mobs.
    Is this the level playing field you spoke of earlier? I think not.
    Instead of contradicting yourself, actually read what you wrote, read what I wrote in response, think about what we have both said.
    Logically your arguments contain flaws and you simply cannot comment to the extent I can due to your lack of experience in the field.

    EDIT: This will probably be my last comment on these forums.
     
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    orange0404 corkus is actually here HERO

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    you mean the more subguilds you have
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  10. Thilyzh_

    Thilyzh_ Adventurous ghillie soldier VIP+

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    That too.

    Again, this is not the place to continue this discussion as it is somewhat off-topic of the original post, and I would bet the OP doesn't want his basic question thread to turn into a giant rant-discussion thread about everything wrong with guilds.
     
  11. Gort

    Gort His Royal Pimpness CHAMPION

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    Aya Very Serious Gensokyo Journalist

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    stop living in the past, hax died like a week ago
     
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    Simplers Well-Known Adventurer VIP+

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    I haven't played in 2 years. That's beside the point, if you actually read this thread you would see Thilyzh pointing that out, and me addressing it. Now if you don't have anything meaningful to say, please don't talk.
     
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