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SPOILER What Is The Eye's Part In Human History, And What Is His Part In The Future?

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  1. Dohdo

    Dohdo I'm back. Cancer in it's purest form.

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    Today I was doing Wynn Excavation Site A and got mindfucked.

    Now, to begin with, here is a picture to visualize my theory.

    (Thanks @Neutrão for the map template)
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    Gray Path: Where humans have fled. Black is the furthest they have gone before perishing.

    Now, the blue path is what we currently believe through lore. I mean, it makes sense, right? But here is one thing to keep in mind. There were people in the desert before the humans arrive, right? I mean, who else built the tombs?

    Now, one thing we know is that the darkness likes to invade other places, such as the Decay, or Dead Island. Just keep that in mind.

    Next point: One law of science I am sure all of us who have passed Grade 7 Science are familiar with is that All things, if left alone, will break down. Simple, but important to the story.

    Next: As told by the signs in the Ancient's Cave, from Wynn Excavation D, the darkness followed the ancients.

    Now, since the ancients are presumably older than a thousand years old, maybe they were around in the same time as the Humans that lived in the desert before the first humans left Fruma.

    Now, going back to how darkness likes invading places, what if, the human race originated in Dern, but left because the darkness came? In that case, the humans followed the gray tracks.

    Now, as the King of Ragni claims, the humans who tried to harness the power of the crystal perished. But when? Maybe, the humans who tried harnessing the crystal were being chased by the Eye?

    Now, at this point we have Humans in Fruma who ran away from the Eye, and the Eye is currently in Dern, near the Dernal jungle, chasing the Ancients.

    Now, as we said, any thing left alone will break down. Maybe, the Ancients, used to be lively humans like us, but broke down into nothing but mindless and weak skeletons, cursed by darkness.

    Now, the boss in Wynn Excavation Site A, uses magic, all though that's odd for a human to use magic. However, what if the Humans used to used dark magic? In this case, the dark magic would have attracted the Darkness, which would have brought the Eye to these lands.

    And as always, the humans perished from the dark magic.

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    Now, that brings us to the next part of this theory:
    What is the Fruman Monarchy up to?

    One thing we know is that they restrict magic, but why? We always thought it was corruption, however, what if, it is for protection?

    You see, if magic attracted the darkness, then the Frumans, who ran away from the darkness, would do all they can to keep the darkness away, so they restrict magic. However, that begs the question, why do they practice powerful magic that is superiour of Gavels?

    To be analyzed. I am still thinking this part through. One thing to keep in mind is that it most likely is not dark magic, and that even the monarchy stays away from that shit
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    Now, the last part of the theory:
    The Future of Wynn
    In the next update, the theory is that the land used to by Wynns, but overcome with darkness. Perhaps the Eye gave up in the Wynn Ex D cave/area and moved on to the east, where he might go where other humans have fled. Once he has completely covered the Road to Wynn area with darkness, he might move on to the Mesa, and to the Desert, and to the rest of the land of Wynn. However, there is more to it than that. Maybe he will stop and not continue.

    Let me explain a concept.

    Why did the Eye stop at Wynn Ex D and move to where the Mesa is? Maybe because of the crystal. Maybe, he cannot go past the crystal, but only touch it.

    Now here is a lore mindfuck. In WynnExcavtionSite D, it says, that the corruption started when the light touched the darkness. Maybe, the Eye cannot go passed the Crystals. Now, here is my depiction of the Future of Wynn in like a billion years:

    [​IMG]

    Now, you might be thinking, nah. There is the decay, the darkness can go passed the crystals. But nah, Im talking about the eye, not darkness in general. Maybe, then it talked about the darkness touching light, it meant it physically. A representative of Darkness (The Eye) and a representative of light (Presumably the crystals).

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    Anyways, to round it up in a summery:
    The corruption begin when the Eye got close to the Crystal.
    The humans originated in Dern, not fruma.
    The Ancients used to be humans.
    and lastly, The fruman monarchy restricts magic to the general public to keep away the Eye

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    captainganon God of k | Derpalope VIP+

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    Pretty sure the Corruption began when the Nether came into contact with the Overworld, since that's actually what happened. Unless you mean some other corruption, in which case, boy is the lore about to get confusing
     
  3. Jaymon

    Jaymon best on server VIP+

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  4. Dohdo

    Dohdo I'm back. Cancer in it's purest form.

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    If youve gone through Wynn Excavation Site D, you probably read the part where you are told the corruption began when the Darkness touched the Light

    Stage 20: https://wynncraft.gamepedia.com/WynnExcavation_Site_D
     
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    captainganon God of k | Derpalope VIP+

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    Nether (Darkness), Overworld (Light)

    I wouldn't be surprised if there was conflicting lore (it's happened before), but when the Nether portal was uncovered, Corruption spread across Wynn.
     
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    Dohdo I'm back. Cancer in it's purest form.

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    Overworld is the battle ground for the Light and the Darkness. Light originates from the Realm of Light and so fourth
     
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    The overworld has always been known as a place of light. That's why gavel has things like elves; they've come from a place of light

    So in a way, the overworld being light is believeable
     
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    right so cause and effect is just gone in wynn then

    i mean, the area around the nether portal is literally called "The Roots of Corruption."

    The overworld is a world of light. It was only after the Nether Portal was discovered that Wynn had beings of darkness, and after a similar rupture in Gavel occurred that evil creatures popped up there.
     
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  10. CookedPelvis

    CookedPelvis Famous Adventurer HERO

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    I think Dern is the source of darkness/place of darkness, and the Light Realm is the source of light.

    The Nether/Roots of Corruption are NOT darkness.

    I think there are 3+ realms. When the Realm of Light and Dern clashed it created Corruption. So the Nether would be another "realm".
     
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    That's a fair assumption and belief, yeah, but the fact that we haven't seen much or any contact between Dern and much of anything, really, shows that Dern isn't really the source of Corruption.
     
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    There's never any real contact with dern, and when there is, nothing there is referred to as 'corrupted.' So saying that dern is the cause of corruption is really just an assumption.

    And we came into contact with the nether first, and the light realm has never touched dern before
     
  13. Freigt

    Freigt 10 years a newbie VIP+

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    (the decay was brought about from the villager's greed)
    (does that count as darkness?)
     
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    Keep in mind darkness had an equal effect on corruption as light, and that corruption isnt darkness or light
     
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    This guy's an Official Wynncraft Corporation Builder, so either he's lying to not spoil the next expansion or he's spoiling the next expansion on accident.
     
  17. SPYROHAWK

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    So for me it's midnight and I'm tired and I checked my phone to see if there were new updates in the DnD campaign and I saw I got tagged here. I read it quickly (but not throughly, as I said, it's midnight and I'm tired), so let me give a few quick responses then I will read it again in the morning.

    Firstly, I believe the tombs were built by humans. The mummy's encountered in Site A and in Mummy's Curse seem very human shaped, And I would suggest that they are from the early humans that came to Wynn. Far more recently than the ancients.

    You mention that the mummys use dark magic, far point. In the Twain Lore, it mentions that before the corruption, the province had another problem. Users of dark magic existed and had to be hunted down. And in death, their spirits lingered. This magic seems to be, as you stated, Dernic in origin, and was a great foundation for linking Dern to soul-magic. In any case, yes, easily humans did use dark magic.

    Finally, you say the Ancients were once humans living in Dern. As you saw fit to tag me, I'm assuming you have read a few of my theories. Most people dislike my Bob is Dernic theory but I still believe it to be true. Nonetheless, in that theory I discuss the possibility of the Ancients being exactly as you described, Humans that were transformed by darkness and fled to Wynn. For that point, I wholeheartedly agree, I argued the exact same thing, and still believe it to be true.

    Now I'm tried and typing on my phone so I will look more into your Fruma claims tomorrow, but that's what I have for you right now.
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    Not to sound snobby or anything, but I thought we (as the community) already agreed on this. Realm of Light, Realm of Darkness (Shadow?), and the Nether are the three known realms (not counting Heaven and Death's realm and whatnot)
     
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    Aren't there four? With death's realm?
     
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    I think the second point is irrelevant - we have no evidence that the boss in WynnEx A is a human. It's far more likely that he's one of the mysterious ancient beings in the desert. We know of at least four tombs there - the Sand-Swept Tomb dungeon (note that everyone there is clearly not a human), the one in the North from Wrath of the Mummy (now, we know from the lore of the mummy's rag that the mummy there was once a pharaoh) the Chestplate Relic, and the one uncovered by WynnEx, which contains another pharoh. It's likely that all of these were built by the same civilisation, but which? I suggest that it was a location occupied by the Ancients, who are not human. They were attacked by the Eye, destroying most of their civilisation and leaving only the underground caverns, where the forgotten inhabitants, perhaps resurrected by the corruption. The ancients are clearly occupants of Wynn - that's where their crystals are. It also makes sense that one of their crystals was built in one of their structures. As for the others, there was probably something on the volcanic isles of theirs, but you can't really expect ruins to survive there, the ones at Site B were suppressed and destroyed by the residents of the House of Twain, believing it to be a hideout of evil. (see the Lusuco Library - the lore from the start of that could easily be incorporated). Site D is clearly the last resting place of the ancients, although if this decay of their human form is something to go on, they are not human. They are represented by endermen - taller than humans. In such conditions, you would expect shrinking, rather than growth. They clearly sealed themselves off from the Eye with the whole reuniting the crystals thing, but if the Eye is where you say it is, they would probably have been better off sealing themselves in at Site C, or even A. I think that Dern is in fact to the East of the map, Fruma sealed its borders and restricted magic in order to preserve its monarchy - they don't want to be involved in the wars of Wynn, leaving a clear entrance to Dern, and they don't want magical people in their populace trying to overthrow them, or force involvement in conflict, as they know this is the only way to stay out of trouble with the Eye. The Corkian Patriots are attempting something similar, staying out of foreign involvement to protect themselves from the Eye. In Gavel, the Dwarven War was caused by demons from the portal on the surface, while Qira prepares a fort against the Eye in the Canyon of the Lost, while releasing magical creatures to protect against an invasion of Gavel through Molten Heights. She knows that the Decay is the least of Gavel's worries, with an untented portal and Dern to the East. Sorry for the wall of text. That's what I think about this.
     
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