Serious Thread Please Read.

And Before a Mod says anything,
YES this does pertain to the Trade market in the way of Money Concerns for most Players.

I'm just going to allow myself in. Hello all!
To be honest, Money making is the overall issue. I wont lie, at the moment i barely have 10LE and i only have a few Godly items. Its easy to say i spend more than i make but that isnt the issue I'm having and/or most players are having also. the main issue if the speed at which ONE gains money. If you were to lets say, grind for an hour at the Ice Heights at Rodoroc,
You have 4 Options:
1. Farm up a bunch of Emeralds and return at every stop when you obtain 20~EBs and a Legendary or two.
2. Farm up a bunch of Unique Items, ID them, and Mass sell them to an Item buyer in hopes of Profit
3. Farm up some Legendary and Rare gear, ID them, then Mass sell them to an item Buyer with hopes of profit
and last but not least
4. GRIND PATIENTLY(for an unknown time)UNTIL you get a Mythic and sell it on the Forums to Upper class person.

When you see what is available. Most people would attempt 3/4 at the same time. Not knowing that they are quite literally wasting there own time, because the rate at which you gain sed items, isn't as good as you get them. not to mention, that IF you manage to get something worth while, the IDs are VERY random to get anything good, and worth of trade marketable.
The better option would be to grind awhile for Nothing but Raw Emeralds. That way after a few trips, You've made a 1 SINGLE LE in roughly An hour~~~.
Doesnt seem to worth while, But if you account doing this for Several hours,
[EXAMPLE 4 hours] You've made 4 LE in one siting. Do this for a 5 days and its 20LE.
{Segment TLDR:} Its Player Strictness that is whats depriving Players of an Income.


{Summary TLDR:} I wouldn't honestly mind if Mythics were to be nerfed to some degree whilst there drop chance were to be slightly boosted; drop chances were slightly boosted.
just ENOUGH to NOT destroy the economy. and to also change the aspect of the more LE you have the "better you can be." The economy is at this point a State of near Great Depression and can be rebounded if 50% of players grinded Raw Emeralds instead of Items for sale.



at this point were all fucking Villagers, greedy and too lazy to go out there and work for income.

Click here for original discussion. https://forums.wynncraft.com/threads/debate-was-the-pre-gavel-item-system-better.198192/page-3

 

Why didn't you mention loot running in your 4 options? Or doing a playthrough which gives roughly 90 LE? Or selling powders? Or making profit off of mythics?

Maybe you're just not trying hard enough to make LE, I casually loot run and I only play on the weekends and have made 20+ stacks off powders from loot running alone, not to mention around 17 stacks from finding mythics.

The options you listed are ridiculous and frankly stupid, nobody is going to try making profit off the item buyer or grinding emeralds. If those are the only options you've listed for making LE you can't blame the economy for this, the only thing at fault there is that you don't know you have more options OR you just won't utilize them

 

1. Because doing Loot runs requires YOU TO SPEND MONEY. TO MAKE MONEY. which is obvious.
2.Nobody in there right mind, will play for a few weeks to get 90LE in replaying an entire Character.
and 3. Not everyone is fortunate to get a (decent)POWDER from a Chest during loot runs.
I play this game when i feel like it and i jumped at the opportunity to express myself.
If you are going to berate me go ahead, I've listed my opinions and you've listed yours.

 

Agree. There's no way to make any good amount of money from "the game" alone, except for a full quests playthrough.
Loot run, get powders, resell mythics (or even find them), make your way up by selling your items to other players, not the itembuyer.

Grinding raw emeralds is completely useless in my opinion.

 

Oh and

i did.

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Read the whole thing if you want to berate a person next time.

 

1. You don't need to spend any money to loot run. At all. Loot sets are useless.
2. I do. I don't play for only the LE, I play for the quests too and because it's fun. Also.. saying it's weeks if it hasn't been your first playthrough is a bit ridiculous tbh
3. Powders are abundant af in chests wat do you mean lol, there's no luck with powders

And I'm not berating you at all.. I'm stating my opinions..

I'm also talking about investing in a mythic then reselling at some point. Not finding one.

 

"Making profit off mythics" doesn't exactly mean find one and then sell it. You can buy them and then resell them. I've only ever found a mythic Boreal (worth about 50LE), but I've obtained 25~ stacks by buying and reselling.

 

You stated it yourself, you only play on the Weekends, If someone in a similar situation plays only on the weekend, it WILL take them a few weeks.

Im done, good night.

 

What.. we're literally trying to give you advice on how to make more LE.. calm down.

 

Uhm, I don't know why you quoted my post there. Anything wrong with "sell it"?

 

Its late, and im tired. For being 2:15AM PST
im amazed im this calm. If i came across "Rude or not calm" I apologize.
Its my brain that's sleep deprived.

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My point the subject implies If you dont have alot of money to begin with. Not everyone has 100+LE sitting in there bank. not to mention the time to grind for a Mythic. Not everyone else has the time to Sit at there computer for hours to finish replaying "The Game" all over again. You probably do, but i dont. Reason why i made this post linking to the thread that slightly wandered off course.

 

Completing a single class (aka playing the game properly with most endgame quests completed) can earn you enough LE to start playing a part in the mythic market.

 

And to be honest, I dont even know if 20EB per 20minutes is accurate. for all i know it could be around 20mins per 20EB or lower
remember its just a time i threw out there.

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So your estamating one Playthrough can give you roughly 100LE without spending ANY of it.
(without help)
Just how long would one playthrough take an Average player, then how long would it take you.

 

Why would you need to spend LE when playing quests?

 

I dont know? Maybe IDing items, maybe horse purchasing, maybe player trades, maybe Potion purchasing.

 

You don't need to purchase a horse or player trade to complete quests, those two are completely unrelated.
ID'ing items and buying potions also doesn't require a lot of money. 10 EB's are enough. If you're not mage and you need pots, keep in mind that killing the mobs you find while progressing in a quest is enough to get a half-full inventory of pots. A single t2 chest can contain 5-6 pots, too.

 

Im am referring to Playing the game over essentially. Yes that does tie together with quests,
but your missing the point.
time is the issue here.

 

In what sense is time the issue here?
You need time to do everything in this game. Grinding requires time, quests require time, and if you need LE, between these two methods playing quests is the fastest way to get a good amount without having to spend pretty much anything.

 

I think the problem with the economy is that it's hard for new players to get a grasp of it.

I suggest you either do the Corkus loot run with a speed class (mage is most efficient in my opinion) or use a loot set at a nice grinding spot that has a good spawn rate of level 100 mobs and use the Wynn Expansion modpack to know what items are on the ground.

Either way, you should always grab:
T3+ Powders
96-100 rare boots (can be paradox which can sell for around 30le)
96-100 legendary boots (can be capricorn and sell for around 30le)
96-100 legendary leggings (vaward and can sell for around 20le)
96-100 legendary helmets (can be cancer and sell for around 20le)
These are the biggest payouts, although picking up other legendaries and rares can also make you around 5-10le
(obviously keep in mind your items need to get good IDs to sell for this much.)

You can also find 96-100 mythics that sell for 2-60 stacks (2 being inferno and 60 being stratiformis)

 

Just answer the damn question. im tired of having to go around to get to my point.
How LONG does it take you to sit through an ENTIRE re-playthrough of a class.
When you answer that finally.
Lets say you make 20~EB every 10Minutes.
20*6 is 120EB
and you play for 8hours.
So thats 48 segments of 10 minutes.
20*48 is the new number here. you get 960~ EB
thats 15LE~ in one DAY
Play that time in 2 days, thats 30LE~
5 Days = 75LE~
Its all about the amount of TIME you put into grinding the Emeralds.
If you play the Quests ONLY, I'd estamate you'd progress roughly 20Levels in the first 8 hours, then 15 the next day. then 10. then 7 then segments of roughly 5 all the way until level 78~ where it gets progressive harder to climb. Anything past lvl 70 is "where higher reward quests" start to say HELLO. the average player would stop at this point. YOU on the other hand Persist! all the way to lvl99. and then you manage to get most quests done. Can you really say you took less than 7 days to get to where you were? And remember, i stopped at 5 days = 75LE. if i went to 7 days, It'd be 90 LE~. Are you going to tell me that i'd take you 7 days to get enough money to beat 90LE off raw emerald?
And remember, you neglected a time of how long it'd take YOU to finish a playthough. If you get to lvl99 Sooner, I'd be wrong.

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Can YOU REALLY. TELL ME. that the average person would sit through an entire playthrough for 90LE?
Now you can argue that it would get stale after awhile of grinding that much, And no shit, Youd be right!
But since were all Villagers at this point. ITS ALL ABOUT MONEY AT THIS POINT.
Oh yeaaah i love replaying the game over and over, But at the same time, that'll get just as stale as grinding for 8 hours straight.
over time you know what happens. and it gets boring.
thats videogames- No GAMES ALTOGETHER are.
fun for awhile and they get boring after awhile.