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Discussion in 'Wynncraft' started by Dandium, Jun 24, 2017.

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  1. Mistrise Mystic

    Mistrise Mystic Surfing winds and chasing windfalls HERO

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    does that work on armor? I thought it only worked with tools and stuff
     
    Mistrise Mystic, Jun 26, 2017
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  2. Jacquie

    Jacquie Archer is bad change my mind HERO

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    I'm not a resource pack creator so I don't know for sure, but it might be possible.
     
    Jacquie, Jun 26, 2017
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  3. Zelefant

    Zelefant wizard fortress will return one day HERO

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    Mojang honestly needs to stop
    first the eula
    now minecraft windows 10 edition
    and now them leaving out pc edition for everything
    why even enforce the eula when you dont even use this version of the game anyway, honestly

     
    Zelefant, Jun 26, 2017
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  4. Gort

    Gort His Royal Pimpness CHAMPION

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    they aren't leaving pc edition, they just won't be updating it first before other versions.

    it's like saying before the update they never updated PE or the other versions
     
    Gort, Jun 26, 2017
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  5. e!

    e! ⁣e HERO

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    Why is Hugh pickle is allowed change the skins of players but not us
     
    e!, Jun 27, 2017
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  6. Gebis8

    Gebis8 Lost

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    They change the entire skin, Wynn is only changing parts of it and can somehow then ( I think ) access the skinfiles and maybe even passwords.
     
    Gebis8, Jun 27, 2017
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  7. Zelefant

    Zelefant wizard fortress will return one day HERO

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    Then why is it our fault? That's Mojang's awful security for you. Before they start blaming us, the least they could do is encrypt the password credentials.
     
    Zelefant, Jun 27, 2017
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  8. Yuno F Gasai

    Yuno F Gasai Forum God, FW

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    It isn't the thief's fault, the owner should have used a double reinforced steel door
     
    Yuno F Gasai, Jun 27, 2017
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  9. Zelefant

    Zelefant wizard fortress will return one day HERO

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    That's different. If Wynncraft had the intention to steal passwords, then it would be a different story. All they wanted to do was immerse people with their armor.
    It's not Belle's fault that Beast didn't use a lock on the West Wing.
    It's not Wynn's fault that skin files can grant people's passwords to the server. That's Mojang's fault for having such an awful account security system. A system like Steam Guard would help a lot.
     
    Zelefant, Jun 27, 2017
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  10. Yuno F Gasai

    Yuno F Gasai Forum God, FW

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    Well we weren't blamed for anything. They just asked us to stop doing that
     
    Yuno F Gasai, Jun 27, 2017
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  11. Zelefant

    Zelefant wizard fortress will return one day HERO

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    Once again, I'm saying that Mojang, instead of bothering to change their security, is making people who accidentally breach their awful security stop what their doing. Why don't they just get off their lazy butts and change it?
     
    Zelefant, Jun 27, 2017
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  12. Yuno F Gasai

    Yuno F Gasai Forum God, FW

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    Because it's probably more complicated that
     
    Yuno F Gasai, Jun 27, 2017
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  13. mizzkissy

    mizzkissy De enige echte! HERO

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    when Euphoric Fedora, a lvl 14 rare helmet, sold for like 1le. bc the armor skin was so badass
     
    mizzkissy, Jul 3, 2017
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  14. 3XTWISTEDTITAN

    3XTWISTEDTITAN The Traveler

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    You can but people dont
     
    3XTWISTEDTITAN, Jul 3, 2017
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  15. Yuno F Gasai

    Yuno F Gasai Forum God, FW

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    we can but we need full 1.9 first
     
    Yuno F Gasai, Jul 4, 2017
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  16. Salted

    Salted Game Design & Wynncraft Founder Staff Member Admin GM CHAMPION

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    Well, first of, we can't get you guys passwords in any way, shape or form. Even if we somehow could (it'd be a gigantic shitstorm, as we definitely wouldnt be the first to notice) they most likely wouldn't be in simple plain text unless Mojang/Microsoft doesn't care at all about security.

    We also changed the full skin. You can't technically only change a part of a skin. What we did (EVERYTIME you switched to a new uncached armour) is to create a copy of your actual skin, add our armour layer over it (x4 for the full armour set) and save it as one new skin, add it to our skin bots, transfer the bot skin to the player and then finally reload your whole character in game so the skin changes can appear to everyone. We had purchased a bunch of Minecraft account used to hold the temporary players skins (yea, we technically payed mojang for this feature...). Thankfully, unless you are in the low levels, people don't change armour often enough to overload it, we could cache most of it.

    Anyway, we remove the feature for a few reasons...

    - The main one was Mojang kept blocking our skin requests thinking that we were spamming skin changes for no reason. It wasn't really fun to have your feature randomly getting broken and requiring you to fix it. It was like a slow and endless cat and mouse game. However it's important to know that we never broke the skin change time limit. From Mojang point of view, they saw a few accounts that were changing skins every minute or so. No rules were broken as i'm aware, but clearly Mojang (or some automatic process) didn't like what they saw.
    - The new item system allowed us to make new and unique items much faster and easily. After a while, the armour skins were holding us back in terms of speed
    - It felt buggy when you weren't expecting it (as we had to reload your character with the dirt screen) and sometimes caused people to lose items

    Though, we always knew it was some kind of a risky feature to add, so it wasn't a huge shock when all that happened. Can't really completely blame Mojang for it either, it's their game and servers and it's up to them to decide their rules and draw the line. We had good intentions for it, but imagine if a different server decided to mess with people's skin and force you to donate to see your normal skin. I can see why Mojang wouldn't like that. I wouldn't either.
     
    Salted, Jul 4, 2017
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  17. Yuno F Gasai

    Yuno F Gasai Forum God, FW

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    That actually makes sense
     
    Yuno F Gasai, Jul 4, 2017
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  18. Academyfail

    Academyfail That one vet that still doesn't have a level 100 CHAMPION

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    WOW. I'm actually convinced.
    So does this mean that item texturing the armor is a possibility?
     
    Academyfail, Jul 4, 2017
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  19. Jacquie

    Jacquie Archer is bad change my mind HERO

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    I can see why actually changing the skins was a problem now. But would it be possible to bring them back using durability textures if the server went full 1.9+? Or will they still not be returning, since I noticed you said it slows down item production.
     
    Jacquie, Jul 4, 2017
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  20. Mistrise Mystic

    Mistrise Mystic Surfing winds and chasing windfalls HERO

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    They could do it like the weapon system, where you have weapon skins for each element
     
    Mistrise Mystic, Jul 8, 2017
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