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Should I analyze some legendary/mythic lore next?

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  1. ???

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    Hey everyone. So I decided to do this ridiculous thingy, how much would a single LE as portrayed in Wynncraft weigh?

    Let's begin with the basics. We do not need to know how much a single emerald weighs.

    A single block in minecraft is exactly 1 Cubic Metre, according to Notch.
    A cubic centimetre of emeralds weighs anywhere from 2.72 to 2.76 grams. I'll assume the middle ground, 2.74 grams per cubic centimetre of emeralds.
    A cubic metre is 1 000 000 cubic centimetres. This gives us 1 000 000 x 2.74
    The result, unsuprisingly, is 2 740 000 grams per cubic metre of emerald (1 EB).
    So, 1 EB has a whopping 2740 Kilograms of mass.
    How many newtons is that, though? The answer is 26870,2210784736 Newtons. Not bad.

    That's not it however. As you know, 1 LE is 64 emerald blocks.
    Let's assume that a single glass bottle has a capacity of 333 ml. (3 bottles to fill a cauldron)
    Melting emeralds is pretty ridiculous of a concept, so let's say that Molten Emerald Block
    Is as dense as emerald blocks. (Beacuse, pretty much, it's true)

    That means 64 molten EB gives us 175360 kilograms of liquid. Which is horrifying.
    We also get 23357.6642336 Litres of the liquid, with 364.96350365 litres per Cubic Metre.
    So, one glass bottle would have a mass of 0.40002795177 kilograms.
    How many newtons is that? It's 3,922934124682071 Newtons per bottle.
    However, that's not taking one thing into account. Buoyancy.
    Using calculation, the Buoyancy is 24.5232863338746339 Newtons per bottle.
    In kilograms, that's 2,5006792597120504 kilograms per LE.
    However, since that is still much tinier than a LE's worth (64 emerald blocks), you would need to smash the content of 70148.9016023000000300983 bottles together into one bottle to actually hold a full 64 EB in a bottle.
    That causes mass chaos, since the bottle now has a weight of 1719694,1490223105 Newtons.

    TL;DR
    A realistic LE would have a mass of around 2.5 KG and around 25 Newtons, but if 1 LE was actually 64 EB it would have a mass of 175360 KG and would weigh 1719694,1490223105 Newtons.

    Pressure!

    With so much liquid in such a tiny space, how much pressure would it have?
    (wip)

    Edit: Fixed it
     
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  2. T-Flex

    T-Flex At the gym HERO

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    First of all, kilograms are unit of mass, not weight. EB/LE would weight in Newtons, not kilograms.

    "One cubic metre is exactly 1000 litres of liquid."

    Only for water. Density varies between liquids.

    "This means that melting our 64 blocks would give us a total of 64000 liters of Molten Emerald Blocks, which is 63982.08 kilograms."
    You can't do that. You can't even out water with emeralds, cause their density is different. 64 molten emerald blocks have the same mass as
    64 solid emerald blocks. Mass is conservative.

    In final step, you multiplied 2470 x 64, not 2740 so you got the wrong answer.

    If you feel extra nerdy, to calculate correct weight you'd need to take buoyancy into consideration. 64 EB would weight less than 1 LE bottle.

    If you want more challenge, calculate the pressure inside the bottle needed in order for emerald to stay liquid. After that, calculate the critical
    spot of the bottle where tensions are the highest :)
     
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    Aya Very Serious Gensokyo Journalist

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    tl;dr we are this on steroids
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    then school lied me again
    are you all adults sure we are doing well on going to school?
    they are lying us in everything pls
     
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    T-Flex At the gym HERO

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    You are right. Middle/high school often over simplify things, leading to wrong conclusions. Years after I started taking advanced physics I realized how much "wrong" I learned in school.
     
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    Paks Spy Main

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    Then you drop it and it spills all over the floor.
     
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    hold up I thought 1 le was just ONE liquified emerald, but the process to liquify it is extremely expensive so 1 liquified emerald IS WORTH 64 emerald blocks
     
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    Aya Very Serious Gensokyo Journalist

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    well they should stop because i can see how bad things can happen because of this
     
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    I tried to (hopefully) fix up the calculations, just so you know. Tell me if anything's wrong.

    As for the calculations... Eh, maybe as a followup. Not right now, though.

    yay post number 100
     
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    Yuno F Gasai Forum God, FW

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    you cant melt emeralds tho
     
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    You can melt emeralds tho

    Also, considering that (logically, anyway), there's no way one LE is actually 64 liquid emerald blocks and is, as the name says, one liquid emerald, then it's pretty different. In minecraft, one pixel is 6.25 cm. An emerald is 14 pixels tall, 11 pixels wide, and 1 pixel wide, meaning it's 87.5 cm x 68.75 cm x 6.25 cm.

    Using math and online calculators and such, it's equivalent to around 166632.81 carats, which is 33.326562, or roughly 33.3, kilograms. One liquid emerald would be around 33.3 kilograms.

    That's enough math for today
     
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    Ok sure but i was calculating not by emerald item, but per cubic centimeter

    It's ok that you did this tho
     
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    i don't know where you got the average weight of an emerald anyway though, and the emeralds in mc definitely aren't normal

    not willing to do more math but if you just found the weight somewhere then i'd like to see it
     
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    Nope, you can break it up with heat but at higher tempatures you'll get molten aluminum and other elements
     
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    Two things I'd like to point out - there is an emerald melter device in Detlas Bank, in the vault area you go to for Jungle Fever.

    Secondly, we don't know that the Wynncraft EB, the item, is the same as the block. It's probably more realistic to say it's the size it is in item form, considerably smaller, although I don't know the exact size. If we go from here (remembering that Wynncraft emeralds don't follow normal Minecraft rules anyway, it takes 64 to make a block), this gives a much more realistic idea. It might actually be semi-practical.

    Update - measured. It's an eighth of the block size. Still pretty darn big.

    Edit - I made a stupid mistake in a simple calculation. It's actually a 64th. That means that a placed emerald block is worth 1 le. A emerald player head is an eighth of a full block, or 8eb.
     
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    i have been lied to by yahoo answers and diamond anvils
     
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    Chemistry doesn't lie
     
  18. Mistrise Mystic

    Mistrise Mystic Surfing winds and chasing windfalls

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    Maybe it's just a rare liquid green metal substance, and not actually a liqufied emerald, like how 1 USD isn't actually made out of 100 cents
     
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    Yuno F Gasai Forum God, FW

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    This^
     
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    sdkgjnio hod-SOH-nee-uhs

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    Explain this (Detlas Bank, by the way).
     
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