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Wanna Know What Powders Are On A Weapon Or Armor Piece?

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    brb gonna go get a matryoshka shell and put varying powders of one kind on it
     
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    just 3t4s
    %!@#!%!@!^#!@$!@#$@!#
    all powders are t3 and below > no armor special (except for the little air powder shit at the end)
    ok, There are far too many possible combinations, I don't even know if this is possible to figure out or not. lmfao, I'mma try, but just post this anyways.
     
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    ok I literally cannot figure this out unless you tell me how many t4+ powders you used. There are far too many possible combinations and it is overall a waste of time ;-;
     
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    You do know he put a spoiler showing the colors right? That might help lol
     
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    it doesn't. Theres so many fucking possible combinations, its essentially solving this equation:
    This is just for earth
    a(30) + b(22) + c(14) + d(8) + e(4) + f(2) - g(10) - h(7) - i(4) - j(2) - k(1) - l(1) = 57
    given
    a,b,c,d,e,f,g,h,i,j,k,l are all coefficients representing the number of a given powder.
    a + b + c <= 1
    a+b+c+d+e+f = 4
    g + h + i <= 4
    g+h+i+j+k+l = 5

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    If I'm not mistaken:
    Two T1 earths
    Two T2 earths
    Three T1 thunders
    Two T2 thunders
    Two T1 waters
    Three T2 waters
    Four T1 fires
    One T2 fire
    One T2 air

    This definitely works and I'm pretty sure I ruled out everything else.


    You're doing it out of order, you have to find the air powder first.
     
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    did you basically just guess and check? I see no way to reliably solve it.
     
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    Here's my work, directly copy and pasted. It probably makes no sense (I can clarify some part if you want, I guess) but hopefully it gives a sketch of how I did it.

    57
    64
    68
    65
    50

    4/5/5/5/1

    Air defense in total is +0
    Air powders + are 34, 24, 16, 10, 6, 3
    Earth powders - on air def are 13, 9, 5, 3, 2, 1 and there are four earth powders

    Since no powder special, at most one t4+ earth powder
    The maximum -earth def obtainable then is 13+3+3+3=22, so t4 air is the most possible
    If t4 air (16 def), possibilities:
    T6 earth: 13+1+1+1 (so 13+3.1’s)

    So below this line and before the next we’re assuming we have a t4 air and a t6 and 3 t1 earths
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    Earth defense: +7
    +earth we get from earth powders: 30+2*3=36
    -earth we get from thunder powders: 29

    Thunder powders are -10/-7/-4/-2/-1/-1 and we have five of them
    10+2+2+2+2=18, which does not make it up, so this scenario is impossible and we did not use a t6 earth.
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    Going back to original calculation to get more cases:

    Assume we have a t4 air
    To counter with earth powders, since we’ve shown t6 earth is impossible, and t4 earth is impossible because 5+3+3+3=14<16, we must have a t5 earth
    Once we have a t5 earth, we must get 7 more negative air def through three earth powders.

    Possibilities:
    3+3+1 (case 1)
    3+2+2 (case 2)

    Assume case 1
    Positive earth def: t5+t3+t3+t1=40, which is even more than the previous calculation so clearly this is impossible

    Assume case 2
    Positive earth def: t5+t3+t2+t2=38 which again is obviously impossible

    THEREFORE, THE AIR POWDER IS T3 OR LOWER

    Assume t3 air powder, so +10 air def

    Possibilities for earth powders:
    5+3+1+1 (26)
    5+2+2+1 (24)
    3+3+3+1 (26)
    3+3+2+2 (24)

    Earth minus: 13 9 5 3 2 1
    Earth pluses: 30 22 14 8 4 2

    26 earth defense is impossible because you can’t get enough negative from thunder; therefore, we have 24 earth defense

    you must get -17 from the five thunder powders which can only come through 10+2+2+2+1. Therefore, we have one t6 thunder, three t3 thunders, and one t2 or one t1 thunder.

    Thunder defense time!
    Thunder defense is 28/20/14/9/5/3
    Negative thunder via water is 10/7/4/2/1/1

    We have positive 60 or 58 thunder defense.
    We got 14 thunder defense overall. This means that we lost 44 thunder def at the minimum which is obviously impossible.

    THEREFORE, WE DO NOT HAVE A T3 AIR

    We can’t have a t1 air because earths can’t counter the defense exactly. Therefore, WE HAVE A T2 AIR

    We then have 6 air defense which is countered with four earths
    3+1+1+1 (14 earth def)
    2+2+1+1 (12 earth def)

    We have a total of 7 earth def; therefore we either have -7 or -5 from thunder powders
    If we get -7 from thunder powders, then we need two t3’s and three t1’s or t2’s, let’s chase this case first
    We get 27, 29, 31, or 33 thunder defense, however we need 14
    So water’s negative is 13, 15, 17, or 19

    Water negatives are 10/7/4/2/1/1
    19 is not possible
    17 is possible: 10+2+2+2+1
    15 is possible: 10+2+1+1+1
    15 is possible: 7+2+2+2+2
    13 is possible: 7+2+2+1+1

    Water positives are 40/28/18/11/6/3

    40+11+11+11+6/3 doesn’t work
    40+11+6/3+6/3+6/3 doesn’t work
    28+11+11+11+11 doesn’t work
    28+11+11+6/3+6/3 doesn’t work

    Therefore this is impossible and we know that we got -5 from thunder powders. Therefore, EARTH POWDERS ARE 2 T2’S AND 2 T1’1

    Fire’s negatives: 13/9/5/3/2/1, the maximum we can get is 25, along with 18 we can only get 43 water positives or less
    So we got -5 from thunder powders, then we need five t1 or t2 thunder powders. Overall this makes anywhere between 15 and 25 negative water defense
    Water’s negatives are 1, 3, 5, 7, 9, or 11
    1 is not possible
    3 is not possible
    5 is possible: 1+1+1+1+1 (water’s positive: any multiple of three between 15 and 30)
    7 is possible: 2+2+1+1+1 (water’s positive: 31, 34, 37, or 40)
    9 is possible: 2+2+2+2+1 (water’s positive: 44+something, impossible)
    9 is possible: 4+2+1+1+1 (water’s positive: 38, 41, 44, 47. 44 and 47 are impossible.)
    11 is possible: 4+2+2+2+1 (idk but it’s impossible)

    Let’s deal with fire defense now. Total sum after including t2 air is 17 defense. Fire’s positives are 3/5/9/asdfthiswon’tbehelpful. This means that the only possible sums of fire defense are multiples of three plus five, so we need 3/3/3/3/5. Therefore we have one t2 fire powder and four t1 fire powders. (why did i not do this after getting the air powder, im dumb)

    Negative water defense: 6. Water defense overall can only be 24. This means that the water powders are 1+1+1+1+1, coming from 6+6+6+3+3. So, the water powders are three t2’s and two t1’s

    The thunder powders lastly came from 5, which is 3 t1’s and 2 t2’s

    Final answer:
    Two T1 earths
    Two T2 earths
    Three T1 thunders
    Two T2 thunders
    Two T1 waters
    Three T2 waters
    Four t1 fires
    One t2 fire
    One t2 air

    57 = 7
    64 = 14
    68 = 18
    65 = 15
    50 = 0

    Final powders:
    +12 earth
    -6 air
    +19 thunder
    -5 earth
    +24 water
    -5 thunder
    +17 fire
    -6 water
    +6 air
    -2 fire

    Total:
    +7 earth
    +14 thunder
    +18 water
    +15 fire
    +0 air

    YES FINALLY
     
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    what tier are the powders?
     
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