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My Opinion On "dungeon Realms" (and Why It's Not #1 Like They Say)

Discussion in 'Minecraft' started by Undyne, May 9, 2017.

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Do you think "we are number one"?

  1. Yes! Dungeon Realms sounds like an awful server!

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  2. No. I actually enjoy playing Dungeon Realms.

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  3. I play DR, but I still think Wynn is better.

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  4. I think both are equally good. Each has its own unique style.

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  5. What is "Dungeon Realms" again?

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  1. Undyne

    Undyne Do you enjoy going through hell? CHAMPION

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    (Warning: Incoming wall of text in the form of honest opinions ahead)

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    So I had decided to check out the "newly reopened" Dungeon Realms server since it was claiming to be the "#1 MMORPG in Minecraft". How they determined this, I have no idea.

    For starters, our server usually has over 10 times as many people on here versus DR. We'll have 500, and they might have 50 or less. You can't really call yourselves a true MMORPG if you can't even get 100 players on at one time.

    Next, the gameplay. DR seems to be "half vanilla" oriented, with some vanilla MC mechanics existing and others being custom coded. Unfortunately, this causes several flaws:

    - I can only hit one mob at a time. This isn't such a big deal when fighting a single mob, but almost always the mobs come in sets of three or more. Plus, with the somewhat bad balance of player damage versus mob HP, it's really time consuming to grind such a small number of mobs.

    - They have tiers of weapons and armor, but using a certain tier against a similar tiered mob is still extremely difficult. Then, they force you to use this tier, which is borderline with the same tiered mobs, to fight a higher tier just to try and get better armor, which seems to rarely drop...?

    - The dungeons suck. All they are is an extreme grindfest with 200+ mobs you have to kill just to fight the boss. And the boss is stupidly made as well: all it does is summons 5-6 mobs with each hit done to it, turning the arena into a literal nightmare with your useless one-hit weapon. Did I mention that if a server force restarts, you lose all of your progress in a dungeon, regardless of where you are?

    - "Chaotic" zones. PvP is a mechanic in MMORPGs, but usually only in restricted areas away from the PvE environment (like Wynn's Nether). What does DR do? They make a majority of the map a PvP-on zone, leaving you at the risk of being killed by a player way stronger than you. You want to explore an area? Better hope a player doesn't kill you first. Seriously, this isn't factions. Let the player choose whether they want only PvE interactions or not.

    - Quests. They're literally non-existent in this game. Just one thing- every MMORPG has some sort of form of quests. The quests are used to explain lore and break away from the excessive grinding you would do otherwise. Why do you think Wynncraft has over 100 quests and counting? To make the gameplay fun. In DR, the only quests you have are the mere "tutorial" quests, which don't give you much of a reward other than a few gems.

    - Death. DR punishes death horribly. Oh, you're a noob who randomly got killed by a lv50 player outside the main hub? Too bad, you lose nearly everything. You basically lose everything except your armor, your first-slotted weapon, and a few other meaningless things. Not only that, but if you kill a player and die afterwards you lose everything, including your weapons and armor you worked hard to get. Good luck coming back from that loss.

    - Durability. Yes, because it makes sense for a game with a drop tier system to put a durability on an item so it can vanish if worn out completely. Granted, you can repair them, but it either costs a ton of gems to repair or a ton of scrap which becomes harder to obtain the better armor you have. They also think it is logical for upper-tier diamond weapons to wear out faster than stone weapons.

    - Spells. Why is it fair that the mobs get spells that triple their damage but we get no such ability? Come on. You're always 3 against 1, or even worse. The game gives you "buffs", but they're completely random and may be useless (why do you need water breathing in a melee mob fight?). Also, the game refuses to let you use terrain strategy, as if you have a height advantage over a mob they'll teleport behind you without notice and knock you into the mob, causing you to sustain damage that didn't need to be dealt.

    - The environment. The terrain is boring. Some parts just have trees, or rock cliffs, and that's it. Some buildings you'll find will have a phrase on them saying "the house is burned to ashes" or something extremely random and unfitting to the build. Some of the NPCs will say random stuff to you, sometimes with the lovely lack of grammar or spelling! I mean, what even is a "whither skeleton"? Whither and Wither are two completely different words...

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    Honestly, I could go on and on about the flaws in this game. All you do is grind and PvP. The game is literally a pseudo-factions server with PvE mobs. It has no longevity. It can be annoying and frustrating. The community in general is somewhat unwilling to help you, and can be flat out savage (turn PvP on or I'll wear out your armor's durability to 0).

    Stick to Wynn, since the staff is helpful, the community is decent, the gameplay is lasting, and your data won't get wiped because of a few overpowered players.

    -Undyne

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    (P.S. I know, I'm technically CT, but this was from my experience from the game. Everything listed here is true, and if you were to play the game yourself you'd see what I am talking about.)
     
  2. ElegantDeath

    ElegantDeath Who needs a title anyways HERO

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    tbh I already knew it wasn't number 1
    I hate dungeon realms
     
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  3. icebreaker

    icebreaker Retired YouTuber & Full Stack Web Developer Media HERO

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    Isn't it dead some months ago?
     
  4. orange0401

    orange0401 Fortified with Vitamin C HERO

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    it tried to revive itself, I think
     
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  5. Cruuk

    Cruuk yopyop HERO

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    Are they using the same map as last time? Please don't tell me they're using the same fucking map before they died a while back.



     
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  6. bloww

    bloww Shoutbox Fancam Account HERO

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    its not an rpg
    its not mmo

    done
     
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  7. Undyne

    Undyne Do you enjoy going through hell? CHAMPION

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    Basically the whole thing was "dead" until it got a new ownership and self-revived itself. But, in all honesty, I feel like I'm playing solo factions with hardcore monsters more than I feel like I'm playing an MMORPG like I am with Wynncraft.

    Considering I saw similar areas as to what I saw in an "ancient" DR playthrough video, I can safely assume they might be using the same map. And, it looks worse than what old Wynn looked like. Boring, too much terrain, lackluster structures, and the lack of proper "nicefind.avi" Easter eggs.

    It's still an RPG because of the stat point/HP/leveling up mechanics, but in terms of the environment and gameplay it veers away from the main format of an MMORPG like Wynncraft (such as having factions-styled safe zones, wilderness, and war zone areas). Plus, its player base is super low and nearly half of its community only seems to care about PvP and player killing, and getting revenge if they get killed themselves. Typical stuff you'd see on factions servers when competing for power. Nice job, DR.
     
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  8. Cruuk

    Cruuk yopyop HERO

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    Oh my.

    See, the reason I asked about the map was because back in 2016, someone compared the map size of Wynn and DR, and it turns out that you can fit the entirety of the DR map into the Canyon of The Lost and still have breathing room. (If I remember correctly)
     
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  9. Undyne

    Undyne Do you enjoy going through hell? CHAMPION

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    http://minemap.net/DungeonRealms/

    Here's their official map. It's so tiny, you can clearly see the details of some towns and buildings.

    It's pathetic compared to Wynn's large move-around map with details you actually have to zoom in to see.
     
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    I took a glance at their map and immediately knew it was pathetic. Their names are horrible compared to some of Wynncraft's names. There's also an area called Helmchen. LordHe1mchen...
     
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  11. Mistrise Mystic

    Mistrise Mystic Surfing winds and chasing windfalls HERO

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    If I remember right, our map is 2-3x bigger than theirs, and MUCH more filled with stuff, seing as like a third of their world is nothing but water
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    As an aside, I am so tempted by to make a forum account and post the wynncraft website on their forums
     
  12. pantsTM

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    I almost did. Coincidentally, I have have an account because another server I play on uses it.
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    Also, they claim to have a community of 80,000 people, but they had 9 players on as of the morning of 5/11/2017. What does this tell you?
     
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  13. (Meric)

    (Meric) No longer edgy

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    Rip this video:
     
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  14. Undyne

    Undyne Do you enjoy going through hell? CHAMPION

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    Fun fact: that area covered in water is completely WorldGuarded so players can't get to it. So much for ocean exploration- sail the V.S.S. Seaskipper here instead!

    First off, 10/11/2017 hasn't actually come yet and won't until five months from now. But in regards to your statement, they say they're "number one" because they had 80,000 players, but 99% or more of this number don't even play the game. I haven't even seen them breach 100 on at one time yet, even on weekends. Another fun fact: Wynn's player base on weekends usually exceeds the maximum player limit on DR.

    And you're still going to say you're number one, Dungeon Realms? Even with evidence that proves otherwise? Seems legit.
     
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  15. Mistrise Mystic

    Mistrise Mystic Surfing winds and chasing windfalls HERO

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    I think they mean as in there have been 80000 people who have ever played on Dungeonrealms at one point or another


    But even still wynncraft has had like 500000 total players so
     
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    Inactive User Famous Adventurer VIP+

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    What? Wynncraft is better than Dungeon Realms? How is this possible?
     
  17. Undyne

    Undyne Do you enjoy going through hell? CHAMPION

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    Because it is...?

    We have a huge world, well-rounded dungeons, a full set of levels to grind, over 100 quests, the ability to make actual strategic builds, and no fear of the overlords of the server wiping our data clean and basically "resetting everything".

    Dungeon Realms has none of that. Go on there and try to find any of the above listed things in their world. I bet you won't be able to.
     
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    IDespiseYouAll Lvl 101 Warrior CHAMPION

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    that's also one of the problems, Dungeon Realms has to be wiped frequently because players simply get to the last tier within hours, after that it's just grinding to get the best set possible and killing anyone else who tries to do the same
     
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    Jbip yea QA GM CHAMPION

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    I'm fairly certain that was sarcasm
     
  20. Inactive User

    Inactive User Famous Adventurer VIP+

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    I was being sarcastic. I'm a VIP+ who has been on Wynncraft for over 2 and a half years. I'm not about to switch sides anytime soon, especially after this summary of the revived Dungeon Realms.
     
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