Any Class What Is " Meta" ?

Recently, a dispute in the community has caused a misunderstanding in the word "Meta". So I've done some simple google search to find out the answer.

META (n.)

Abbreviation of Most Effective Tactic Available. Mostly used when comparing tactics in a game, but can be used in other things as well. It can change over time as new tactics are explored or can change by a change in the rules of a game or availability of new resources. In computer games this is done by patching to balance the game or fix bugs.
(from urban dictionary in the meaning of Meta in gaming)

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So, what does it actually mean in Wynncraft's context??

In other gaming community with more sophisticated competitive strategy, Meta is usually used to describe a tactic that is powerful and widely used in most if not all described context. Simply being powerful is not able to "claim a meta", it has to be widely accepted and used in the respective community. However, what wynncraft offers is a much complex mechanic as many strategy and build types exists which are equally effective. So how do we determine what a Meta is in this game?


Example:
A Very Specific Grimtrap Melee Build is very powerful in certain situations. Is it powerful? yes but is it widely used? this is not sure. But is it Meta?

- It will be a "Grimtrap Melee" Meta if it is proven to be widely used by "Grimtrap Melee" build users
- It will be a "Grimtrap" Meta if it is proven to be widely used by other "Grimtrap" build users
- It will not be a "Melee" Meta if it is not widely used by all Melee build users


By now I think you all are pretty sure how to decide a specific meta, but I'll put more generalised example.

Mana Regen build and Rainbow Tanks are two of the most widely used specific build types. Both builds are accepted to be "powerful" in their own rights. Are they Meta? Yes, in a way. Because these two build are not just "builds" but rather "build types" so in a generalisable context it is correct to describe it as a meta to the entire game.

Then from the meta genre of Rainbow Tanks we can say Gravity Tanks used to be a meta in rainbow tanks, and so on.

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How do you "claim" a meta?
1. It has to be powerful and effective at its job (eg. tanking)
2. It has to be widely used and accepted by the community that does the same thing (rainbow tanks in tank builds)

How do you describe a meta?
e.g. "This gravity tank build is a rainbow tank meta"
X "This gravity tank build is a meta" as this describe the entire game

How do you consider the parameter of a meta?
Goal: "Proves gravity tank is a tank meta"
Gravity Tank - (ask yourself does most people using rainbow tank builds use gravity tanks?)
⇰ Rainbow Tank Meta - (ask yourself does most people using tank builds use rainbow tanks?)
⇰ Tank Meta - (ask yourself does most people play the game use tanks?)
X⇰Meta
therefore Gravity Tank ⇰ Tank Meta but not a Meta (that describe the whole game)


Hope this clear things out without offending anyone :)

 

So that's the conclusion of ur assignment?
Btw can I claim the 1.15 stardust gravity mythic tank meta now?

 

Why @TinaChan meta is failed:

It is powerful but

"ew cancer"


Did I understand it on the right way..?


Maybe I should give some advices to chun..

Spoiler: ?

YOU READ THAT, RIGHT?
SAY "THIS IS NETHER"

 

nowadays I personally believe that since gravity got nerfed, libra would probably be better since that way you can save up more sp for things like gemini or fermion and such while still having better elemental dmg as a whole. Like I get that gravity is still very bulky, but I just feel like libra is now just a better option in general for rainbow builds or rainbow tank unless you REALLY desperately need a little more tankiness from a chestplate in exchange for significantly worse dmg output and less options for other stuff. Actually libra might even be a better option than gravity for bulkiness since from what I heard, its pretty hard to use gemini and most people tend to use vaward so gemini can basically increase elemental defense significantly with good ids and for boots you can probably use either fermion or statue or gaea boots. Though this is rather subjective.

 

For this example:
-It will be meta if the same building blocks are widely used in all melee builds (Centipede, Coi, slow tier atk weapon, sanc/earth breaker, hive boots, etc)

EDIT: You should make a list of the first builds in every single prominent meta today, and give credit to the original meta creators.

 

Meta means hi i'm a fucking gravity build and i like to ruin peoples days

 

So damn true

 

so should we give @TinaChan the credit of poison build?
Nvm

 

No we give tina the right of the word cancer and if anyone uses it without permission they get publicly executed

 

Claiming a META is a bullshit idea, there are always some people using items. So should we give credit for the first person using hive gear?
And credit to Gravity Gemini
Sone items are self explanatory that even someone withou much build idea knows what to use like mana regen, same apply for melee build, when people are making melee build ofcuz they will go over and check the box in WynnApp %melee damage and +tier
There are not a variety of options available, what would a person prefer from pisces and centipede, CoI and Taurus? That's some easy answer.

There arent even a wide variety of META builds, tank, melee, spell what else?
They always exist on wynncraft, the person that should gain credit for the META is the first ever person who use that piece of item. But how can u tell if you are the first person doing that?
Prob tryhard and lookup ur log in January and find a couple sentences of messages.

Let the flame war on~~~ the hot never bother me anyway
- Elsa

 

and not to mention if build isn't the strongest one out there, why tf would someone not be shameful to 'claim' the META

 

I just mixed META with PETA by reading this...

 

Except PETA is runned by Hypocritical Retards. But it is true that they like to ruin people's day and such.

 

Once i was a PETA supporter until i found out the truth... shame on myself

 

I wasn't going to comment on META, even though what you wrote is half wrong half right, but seeing how amazingly this thread has progressed I just can't deny myself the pleasure.

META has nothing to do with how many people use it, not sure where you got that from. META, in rpg sense, is the absolute strongest build there is. Archer's META is stratiformis, but because people can't afford it, it turns out gale's force is META because it's widely used. That is incorrect.

There is no such thing as, e.g., grimtrap melee META or rainbow gravity tank META. META is META. If Grimtrap melee is the absolute best build in the game, saying META already implies that you are talking about the grimtrap melee build. If the rainbow gravity tank build is the META, saying META already implies that you are describing rainbow gravity tank. If you are requesting a "grimtrap melee META", then you are just asking for a very good grimtrap melee build.

Wynncraft wise, I'm kinda 50:50 whether there is a META build. From one point, warrior fire apoc could be considered the best build in the game (I got no clue if it actually is, just an example), but from the other point, it's going to useless against fire resistant mobs, or at least, very weak. I guess it is META if people, in general sense, have the most success with that kind of a build.

In FIFA, META is 41212(2) formation because it's useful against absolutely every other formation.
In Diablo, wizard's META is Archon hydra build with Tal Rasha set.
In one of the past iterations of CoD, META was going prone while shooting from close range.
In chronicles of blood, META was a healing build.

In Wynncraft, you could consider classes as META. Mage might be one because it has OP healing and can deal high amounts of damage. Not saying it is the best, but it could be.

Not sure how you'd determine who came up with a META in order to claim it, seems like an unnecessary thing to do, but if it makes you happy, then go for it.

 

Its easily possible to use Morph Stardust/Gravity/Gemini/Gaea-Hewn Boots (Fermion is trash by comparison), just get 17/18 prisms and 40 Morph Stardust, while still having 3 sp spare.

Also guess what, your dps isn't lowered at all because Gaea-Hewn counters -raw spell and you just have to use super slow weapons like Apoc (possible sp-wise just tighter), Infidel, Compiler, Eidolon, Island Sniper, etc.

 

Seeing you actually write a lot of things with the idea of roasting me, the "I just can't deny myself the pleasure to reply it"

Yes you're right, in most cases, Meta has nothing to do with how many people using it, why? Becoz it would already be a commonly acknowledged thing in the community to begin with. Seeing that you throw down a load of other RPG example I'll assume you understand. Let's say a guy found out this amazing powerful thing in game A and said its Meta, and it wasn't accepted by the gaming community of that game for that situation, then it wouldn't actually be a Meta.

And yes you're right, in most cases Meta is Meta, there aren't any sub category to it. if you're talking about a Meta in a fps then it would obviously be the best gun, Meta in some form of RPG then it would be the best set of armor. However what is a "set" of armor in the context of Wynn? It isn't like other RPG where you wear a set to be a set, players here are allowed to be mixing and matching gears for all sort of situations, this is why a detailed categorisation can be dubbed for Meta-ing here. Obviously you play much more games than I do with all those example I think you were trying to suggest, I'll use overwatch as an example, let's say a dive comp is one of the meta strategy and tracer is a meta in dive comp, you wouldn't call tracer a meta itself coz she's not on all cases, but if you dub it into the case of dive comp, she is a dive comp meta.

In this large and horizontal game, there aren't a so call meta for all situations, what Meta can only be used to describe here is indeed the most effective thing for a certain job, and in a way, when people say a specific meta they are requesting for the best build of that specific thing, and when someone is requesting a meta build, there simply aren't any, coz there are to many options in this game without sub categorising

Obviously you would understand what I said as you obviously demonstrated you have more gaming knowledge then I do, and understand why a Meta has to be a more detailed description in this game

As for why people would claim a meta, what you said is absolutely true and I agree with you

 

Mate, I plan on roasting no one. I once road a path I'm not proud off, and I don't plan on being a dick, just for the sake of it, ever again.
However, the "pleasure part" was absolutely unnecessary from me, didn't mean it that way, but it could have raised the tensions in here, and for that, I apologize.

I just wanted to clarify META a bit further, as I don't think googling a bit was enough, that is all.

 

Don't worry I do understand, what you said is correct and confirms my previous knowledge on what Meta is, I just don't find it suitable if it is just used by itself in Wynn as there are too many options unlike most linear game, thats why I believe a subcategorisation can be used for all our pleasure to use this word kek

 

but yea, peta does a lot of wrong things. They have once exploited the injury of someone who got attacked by a shark as an advertisement campaign and had no mercy on the family that had the person bitten by a shark. They use sexual content to advertise their things (Like the banner for "We would rather go naked than to wear fur" or this game PETA had for adults which was some quiz on animal abuse and it shows a girl who is stripping her clothes away with her becoming naked in the end) and they are in many ways along with being overly offended by anything (Cooking mama, the fact that 1-2 Switch had a cow milking game, pokemon, the mario tanooki case, Super Meat Boy, etc.). A New Jersey report even stated that many PETA followers killed quite a bit of dogs that they "saved". What happened was that basically they killed most dogs via lethal injection then THREW THEM INTO TRASH BAGS (Ethical my ass) and it doesn't help that most dogs were perfectly healthy and fine and the fact that they stole some of the dogs from families. It also doesn't help how one sided they feel veganism is thinking that vegans are the master race of the planet and are the only kind people and eating meat automatically makes you evil and vegan makes you a better person by default... Yea PETA sucks, I don't get the amount of followers they are getting, are they blind or just plain stupid?

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Could be wrong on the sp thing, but from my experience with decent prisms and a good morph stardust, i still have issues wearing gemini for some reason. And some threads mention that they cannot place gemini. Maybe this could vary by situationss.