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Info Im Team Applications + Item Rebalance Changelog

Discussion in 'Wynncraft' started by Selvut283, Apr 10, 2017.

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  1. opps123456789

    opps123456789 Well-Known Adventurer VIP+

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    nooooooooo why nerf he burnout!??!! I just made an archer build with it!!!
     
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  2. Miles_

    Miles_ hi CHAMPION

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    It was OP and too easy to use with standard attack tier builds.
     
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    basically everything now is completely trash
     
  4. Stag2001

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    Imo, this changes the meta to be more skill-based and less money based. It makes you focus more on 1, 2, or 3 elements instead of choosing one and getting insane defense against all 5. It makes it that much more fun.
     
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  5. Cosomos

    Cosomos Well-Known Adventurer

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    Selvut do not let the hate get you down, I understand what you are doing. Basically you are making powerful items (usually legendary items) require more Skill Points. This does 2 things: first it makes it so it is harder to use multiple super strong items, second it adds room for weaker items with less Skill Points required. Just look at the Legendary Island accessories they are all lv 95, but they have varying Skill Point requirements and ID's to match them. What selvut is doing is exercising the other method of balancing that makes it harder for Meta's to exist.

    I have been messed up by the changes too I need to trade my Golemus Core for GigaByte before I can use my Capricorn again, still I have agreed with the changes and new feel of using gear.

    I know that more buffs and nerfs are coming and look forward to the balance changes. I am personally hoping for Cancer and Taurus to have both of there Attack Speed ID's halved so they are less extreme changes. Maybe a base of 4 for cancer and 10 for Taurus? Also I would wish that CoI would have less % Melee and more Raw Melee, like 250 Raw and 25%? With the +2 Attack Speed alone it's buff "on average" is x2.06* your Melee DPS(at super slow it is tripled), I really think it is too strong for a rare Melee Chestplate that does not have any Skill Points required.

    *Attack Speed Average Multiplier
    +1: x1.44
    +2: x2.06
    +3: x2.80
    +4: x3.84
    +5: x5.62
    +6: x8.43
     
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  6. Killerfish

    Killerfish Procrastinating Artist HERO

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    tbh i feel taurus needs that %melee more than CoI
     
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  7. Miles_

    Miles_ hi CHAMPION

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    You should change that. (DPS can refer to after other buffs and not before, so it might not even double your DPS) Triple's an exaggeration.
    I agree with most of your message. I don't fully get why you wish to change Cancer and Taurus in those ways. It wouldn't really change the overall effect so I see no point.
     
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    Personally I think that without the current way Cancer Taurus works, Raw Melee won't ever be seen as equal or near equal to regular melee. Imo Cancer Taurus is balanced and serves as a real niche for Raw Melee.
     
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    yay rip super fast alka builds, lets bring thrundacrack back into the market
     
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  10. Mistrise Mystic

    Mistrise Mystic Surfing winds and chasing windfalls HERO

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    Cancer taurus is balanced is the greatest joke I've heard in a while
    Then again, if they'd fix WAR SCREAM it would be
     
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    Its weak as shit
     
  12. Miles_

    Miles_ hi CHAMPION

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    How?
     
  13. Stag2001

    Stag2001 360 mlg hipster cat CHAMPION

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    Burnout getting nerfed, still super fast is possible.
     
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    do you have any clue now why the capri buff didnt take any effect? :o and if so do you have any idea when it will? :D
     
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    I knew it was getting nerfed, but I also knew that they were still possible. Thanks though.
     
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    Cancer Taurus is only usable with Chakram/Frenzy (to get Super Fast) after Taurus was nerfed to -14 Atk Speed. War Scream could be argued for any melee build. The build has significantly less DPS than other melee builds (Flameshot Hilt), can't utilize it's 195 points in Dex/Str since raw melee isn't affected by those, has only 50%ish ws, has only average health, mediocre defenses, and hardly any skill-point defenses. Its only strength is its ability to penetrate defenses, but melee builds already do enough damage that Element defense doesn't really matter and it is still stopped by Agility.
     
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    I agree, most normal mobs, ESPECIALLY in level 70+ areas, are way too weak for their level when you compare them to an average player of the same level, even with only Unique gear, I think the Tier 3 spell upgrades play a big role in this in the fact that the final spell upgrade is at level 66, and is pretty easy to get, the knockback from certain spells will also prevent most mobs from touching you.

    I think if we nerf the "meta builds", and buff nearly every single non-superboss level 50+ mob to be a considerable, fair challenge for players in those level ranges, even with decent gear and the upgraded spells, I think the game will become more "skill based and challenging".

    I think I should make a thread concerning this in the Feedback section...
     
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    tbh I think a lot of items are currently fine as is, like Cumulonimbus, Capricorn, ETC. and some items could honestly use a buff, like Sagittarius. it's mostly the OP items (morph stardust, Centipede, CoI), that should be nerfed, as they're the main culprits in making the game easy
     
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  20. los_pollitoz

    los_pollitoz Cringe: https://lospolltioz.deviantart.com HERO

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    Please do mythic boot buffs, shit that actually needs changing.
    I don't mean to sound whiney, but like, seriously.
     
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