Warrior/Knight Alkatraz Melee That Kinda Actually Works

Hephaestus · Apr 13, 2017

Finally took a look at Summa, updating the build now ;)

BisexualDog · Apr 18, 2017

Um I just realized, snail boots are gone now,

Hephaestus · Apr 18, 2017

BisexualDog said: ↑

Um I just realized, snail boots are gone now,
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Wait I'm confused what you mean, Snail Boots still exist. (I had a mini heart attack when I misread "Helm" as "Boots somehow and saw the 20 def req on Snail Helm)

BisexualDog · Apr 18, 2017

summitwei said: ↑

Wait I'm confused what you mean, Snail Boots still exist. (I had a mini heart attack when I misread "Helm" as "Boots somehow and saw the 20 def req on Snail Helm)
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I mean you cant get it anymore.

Hephaestus · Apr 18, 2017

BisexualDog said: ↑

I mean you cant get it anymore.
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where did you hear this from?

BisexualDog · Apr 19, 2017

summitwei said: ↑

where did you hear this from?
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Have you looted any chests recently? It's no where to be found, can you get it from drops because maybe that's the only way now.

Pyromanic · Apr 19, 2017

summitwei said: ↑

where did you hear this from?
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BisexualDog said: ↑

Have you looted any chests recently? It's no where to be found, can you get it from drops because maybe that's the only way now.
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According to Selv, it only drops from the Sky Snails now, which is what it was originally supposed to drop from.

BisexualDog · Apr 19, 2017

After messing with skill points a shit ton and using wynnapps I managed to put burnout with the build and it's really overpowered. Like it's amazing having the attack speed annd really good health.

Hephaestus · Apr 19, 2017

BisexualDog said: ↑

After messing with skill points a shit ton and using wynnapps I managed to put burnout with the build and it's really overpowered. Like it's amazing having the attack speed annd really good health.
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Burnout, post-nerf?

BisexualDog · Apr 19, 2017

summitwei said: ↑

Burnout, post-nerf?
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Yes

Hephaestus · Apr 19, 2017

BisexualDog said: ↑

Yes
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lemme guess

Centipede
CoI
Vaward
Burnout

Summa
Summa
Prowess
Diamond Fiber Necklace
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Though you get negative hr and don't have too much health though, it's probably a pretty strong build but I wouldn't recommend it myself

BisexualDog · Apr 19, 2017

summitwei said: ↑

lemme guess

Centipede
CoI
Vaward
Burnout

Summa
Summa
Prowess
Diamond Fiber Necklace
?

Though you get negative hr and don't have too much health though, it's probably a pretty strong build but I wouldn't recommend it myself
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You are close, I ended up with no negative health regen.

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summitwei said: ↑

lemme guess

Centipede
CoI
Vaward
Burnout

Summa
Summa
Prowess
Diamond Fiber Necklace
?

Though you get negative hr and don't have too much health though, it's probably a pretty strong build but I wouldn't recommend it myself
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You see electro gives negative health regen, and summa does too. That's why I thought that super fast wasn't gonna work, but then I did some research and just made my own build to put the stats perfect and still have decent health.

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At this moment I am trying to get better stats on the items since each stat makes the build so much more fun. Walk speed, sp, etc.

Trikki · May 1, 2017

summitwei said: ↑

Alkatraz is a weird item. It's very difficult to make non-gimmicky; building it will often utilize Rage abuse or melee combinations that turn you into a glass cannon. Most builds that use
This is easily the best build of the second type that I've seen, and maybe the best one there can be.

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Centipede
If you've ever seen a melee build before, you've seen this item. +2 Tier Attack Damage plus some extra % melee brings your melee damage through the roof. The walk speed is also extremely helpful, as good mobility is very useful.

Chestplate of Ineptitude
Almost everything I'd want to say here is already said in Centipede's description. % Melee and +Tier are both immensely helpful, and CoI also has a pretty good amount of health.

Electrocharge Greaves
In terms of Alka builds, Electrocharge typically plays second fiddle to items like Earth Sanctuary and Earth Breaker. However, it certainly has its own merits. The +2 Tier is approximately a 72% damage buff if we consider Fast --> Super Fast and 194% if we consider Super Slow --> Slow. This is just insane, and it's definitely worth the issues it comes with.

Snail Boots
Electrocharge has some negative health regen. We overkill that here with the over 200 you get with Snail Boots. It also has 4100 health (the most out of any boots in the game aside from Statue, last I checked), which makes up for Centipede and Electrocharge both having relatively low health.

Summa
If you couldn't tell, this build is very skill-point heavy. This is a step to make up for that - Summa has the most non-intelligence skill points out of any ring in the game that does not have an intel requirement. The mana regen it has is also helpful; although this build obviously isn't spell-based at all some mana is good for Charge and stuff like that. The negative health regen also hardly hurts us because Snail Boots has so much.

Giant's Ring
Giant's Ring just has really good damage in general, and comes with some extra skill points that should easily be enough for wielding Alkatraz. The negative walk speed is a pain but it's not too bad.

Diamond Fiber Necklace
This is one of the new Legendary Island items, and it's basically perfect for this build. It has an insane amount of strength and also has some nice earth damage. (I previously had Wolf Crest in this slot for skill points and walk speed. Feel free to use it instead if you don't want to run Legendary Island.)

Diamond Fiber Bracelet
Also from Legendary Island, Diamond Fiber Bracelet is more focused on damage than its necklace counterpart. The damage is quite good though, and the skill points are very helpful. (I previously had Rycar's Bravado in this slot, use that if you want more skill points)

Alkatraz
This is an Alkatraz build, what did you expect?

(Feel free to use any secondary weapons you'd like. Some good choices would be Cloudbreaker for walk speed, Poison Ivy for poison, and Braker for neutral damage.)

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Skill Points:
-Take enough defense to get 10 defense once you add Summa's defense in.
-Take enough agility that you get 30 agility once you subtract the Giant's Ring agility and add the positive agility from Summa.
-Take enough dexterity that you get 65 agility once you add Summa's agility in.
-Put everything else in Strength. You're not going to have excess, but as long as your skill points are good enough you should be able to use Alka pretty easily.

In a perfect world, you'd have
100/62/0/8/30 in base points, and perfect stats (without wielding Alka) makes 126/72/0/10/30.

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I don't feel like delving into what makes this melee build good, so I'll just cite this thread. Looking at it, the three main things you want with a melee build are
1) Damage - Certainly you have this; Alkatraz's damage combined with +6 tier attack speed with still pretty big % damage buffs puts your DpS through the roof
2) Mobility - You should have around +20% walk speed if you're not holding Alka, that's probably enough for mobility (I can dodge enough with my +0% WS build).
3) Defences - Admittedly, this build is a glass cannon. However, it's not that bad. It has about 10K health with positive elemental defenses in all but water and fire. Agi and Def are a bit low but again it's not that bad (especially with the potions thing being broken)

This is untested as of now because I haven't done Legendary Island and I threw away my last Giant's Ring. I expect this build to deal really good damage though, probably enough to solo Qira and Leg. Island without rage abuse if you're good. (Old estimates are 30K, and new ones are more.)

Alright, that's it. Feedback would be greatly appreciated.
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nice build and all and i am trying too get it all and try it out to tell you what the stats are but just maby too tell you if you can add where you can get the items like the snail boots and centipede. but overall its a nice build and i have it almost completed

Hephaestus · May 1, 2017

Trikki said: ↑

nice build and all and i am trying too get it all and try it out to tell you what the stats are but just maby too tell you if you can add where you can get the items like the snail boots and centipede. but overall its a nice build and i have it almost completed
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Centipede is a dungeon reward from Corrupted Lost Sanctuary. Snail Boots are obtained by killing Sky Snails near Ahmsord.
(I'm getting this build together as well, but my main issue is the Giant's Ring :/)

Mistrise Mystic · May 2, 2017

Kawaii__Turtle said: ↑

Weapons don't actually lower how much of a skill point you have, so armor doesn't pop off, but it will lower how much of the effect you get from the skill

So if I have 68 agi (50% dodge) and an armor piece that requires 68 agi to wear, and a weapon with -20 agi, the armor won't come off, but I'll have less than 50% dodge chance
Does that make sense ._.

Good build
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Can confirm, I use a slider with -33 dex while using cumulonimbus and boreal Aegis, while having 33 dex w/out it

JackyKit · May 2, 2017

AlmondIceCream said: ↑

Can confirm, I use a slider with -33 dex while using cumulonimbus and boreal Aegis, while having 33 dex w/out it
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skillpoint on armor doesn't contribute to min sq requirements but it does contribute to your skillpoints

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