SPOILER Selvut Enlightens On Ventus Tail's "nerf"

So while chatting with Selvut on Discord. And by that I mean he literally just started on this post.



As you can see this is how it started. Now I will show you the original stats compared to the newer ones for the Corkus Update.





He then goes on to say the following and stating that changing anything by 1% will either make it useless or extremely good for it's own good.



And now here we have the final image which doesn't add anything to this but I felt like I should add it none of the less.

 

PRAIIIIIIISE

 

I haven't used that item but, I can understand what selvut means by changing something by 1% can disturb the hole meta. And thus the market and so on, that's why it is so hard to balance items.

Anyways nice thread, and if selvut reads this, please buff my build ;P

 

@Selvut283 this doesn't qualify as a 1% change, this fucks up the item entirely.
You added 100 raw hp and remove over 50% of its overall damage, and made it worse overall.

 

:( i use this item too..

 

LOL

10char

 

Ventus Tail will no longer be used after this

 

but but but i just got a 36% thunder dam ventus, that's why larz was talking about ventus being nerfed and thats what started all of this

 

3% air/thunder damage and 1% spell is half its damage? What? And, I -removed- 100 health, not added...

I think you thought I took it from 27 to 12. That's not the case. It was originally 12%, when the item was first created. Then, in the big wave of legendary buffs, it got boosted to 30%. Then, that was found to be a bit much, so I reduced it to its current state, where it has 27%.

 

A B S O L U T E L Y U N P L A Y A B L E

 

But but but but but if its only 27 thunder damage how is this possible

 

ID variance. You get a base value which can vary between certain amounts. For positives, it's anywhere between 30% to 130% of the base ID. For negatives, it's 70-130% of the base ID. And, decimals will round up.

27*1.3=35.1, round to 36

Notice the three stars next to the thunder damage? That means you got a perfect 130% roll on it. Two stars is 125-129%, while one star is 101-124%. No stars is 100% or less.

 

i understood none of that

kthanksbye

 

yeah, I did. My bad.
What WERE the changes you made then? The formats of the discord screenies are confusing.
Original > buffed > nerfed (Corkus) what were the changes made?

 

Buff put spell damage from 9% to 11%, and increased air/thunder damage from 12% to 30% each.

Minor nerf afterwards, did these:
- 2000 health nerfed to 1900
- -200 earth defense nerfed to -250
- Spell damage nerfed from 11% to 10%
- Speed nerfed from 8% to 7%
- Air/Thunder damage nerfed from 30% to 27%

So, overall very minor nerfs across the board.

 

Wow I face this onslaught when I made the items for my gm app xD

It was fun though

 

Thats pretty reasonable, these are all base values too right? Thats a reasonable nerf, Ventus Tail used to be overpowered for thunder air builds in general, giving ~80% damage buffs and walk speed at the small cost of some earth defense which is easily negated...

 

Yeah, those are base values. It's still very powerful, but even that nerf had people going "rip, totally unusable".