Serious Identity

Lets start at the base
There are two sexes (and some chromosomal syndromes)
When it comes to how you identify yourself just act how you want, just don't label it.
Thinking you are a fox in human form, that's not a gender. its a mental illness or cry for attention.
I don't go around saying "im male so I need to do this and that" I go around saying "I'm me so I do what I want".

 

I don't know if ya'll noticed, but this is supposed to be a serious thread. It's got a tag and everything. Keep your jokes somewhere else.

 

I understand your point of view, however Gender Dysphoria is a thing that we have observed (albiet not very well due to the all around confusion that characterizes it). Gender appears to be a factor in the human mind, and it seems to disassociate from sex.

 

but labeling the minority that has it and dividing them into smaller groups just confuses people with gender dysphoria (and everyone else tbh). it makes teens stressed to find out whats their gender while most of them don't have gender dysphoria and are just interpeting things wrong (or they just want attention) and it makes thise who do suffer from it form their own groups instead of mixing with everyone.

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Also biologically speaking you can be whatever you want as long as you breed and don't pass on any harmful genes

 

Breeding shouldn't be necessary, natural selection isn't a philosophy

 

by not breeding you removing yourself from the gene pool which is fine.
and natural selection doesn't have to do anything with any of this.

 

From what you just said, I conclude that either you are an attention seeker or you need to sort out where you this kind of serious stuff. (Seriously, if you actually feel this way, tell somebody in person, that can relate to you to a somewhat extent, like your mum or dad or local psychiatrist)

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I understand what you mean, but natural selection does relate to this somewhat. For example, People who feel like Happy_Halloween are probably not going to reproduce, therefore the part in their genome which causes this feeling that Happy_halloween is experiencing does not get passed on that often. (that's why you don't meet many people which feel like Happy_Halloween that much)

 

you have no proof that those genders derive from genetic problems.
that's the same reason that tan doesn't pass generations, its not genetic.

 

Actually there have been studies that show sexual orientation is at least partly genetic, a quote from the article: " "Sexual orientation has nothing to do with choice," said Bailey. "We found evidence for two sets [of genes] that affect whether a man is gay or straight. But it is not completely determinative; there are certainly other environmental factors involved." ".

 

that gene is only inherited from the mother's side so a male having it cant pass it on

 

To quote the articlr again: "Researchers have speculated in the past that genes linked to homosexuality in men may have survived evolution because they happened to make women who carried them more fertile".

While what you say is true, I don't understand what point you're trying to make with it. That the trait of homosexuality cannot continue along generations? Because women with those genes can still pass it on to their daughters who can pass it on to their daughters, etc... And if women are more fertile with the genes than it increases the likelyhood of a female being born to carry that gene on.

 

my point is that it doesn't survive as a gay gene, the gayness is a byproduct. the main reason it survived was because it increases fertility.
if there was a gene that had only one effect, to make people gay, it would get lost in evolution.

 

Nice.
I'm an attention seeker for looking for help.

Because there's not a million better ways to seek attention.

 

Please don't take it offencivly, I was not meaning to be rude. I understand that this a very personal topic for you, I was just stating a possibility. There are people that exist that would try to look as if they were in a super bad situation just to get attention.

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I understand what you're saying. I do not know if the feeling that Happy_Halloween is experiencing has to do with genetics. It may completely depend upon a person's past experiences or how they were brought up.
I didn't know that tan was not genetic though. Because you can kind of tell apart a person with a European heritage from someone who has Hawaian heritage, even if they were born in a different country.

 

acquired tan, as in the color difference gained by time outdoors.

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gender is a long fucking ways from sexual orientation, buddo. the only reason why the T is a part of LGBT is because they face similar problems.

 

Since sexual orientation is separate from gender, not really, no :
- Trans people aren't barred from marriage in certain areas if they're straight
- Gay people don't have an awful medication / surgery process to go through if they want to accept their body

They face discrimination, yes, but that has to do with their gender, not their sexual orientation.
Then again, I don't care if they get regrouped with the previous letters, but to say they face similar problems is wrong; their situations are entirely different and require different measures.

 

I know, but when I say "problems" I mean their cause. I don't think you'll find a homophobe who isn't transphobic as well.

 

I've seen some crazy feminists in my days, crazies that believe all gay men are "entitled" to women's bodies, while they talk about how cool trans wymyn are.
It's obviously not the majority, sure, but they do exist.

I guess by that logic you might as well say that "I can't find a single racist that isn't homophobic" as well, if you say that discrimination for your identity is the basis for your comparison.

Close minded cunts will be close minded

 

I guess you're right.

you know it's really fucking hard to admit that you're wrong on the internet for some reason. it's like, something about how you phrase it that i can't get

 

The way I go about this is I make myself think : "You're not here to prove anything to anyone except yourself, so be the most reasonnable and thoughtful you can get"

After a while you just start to know when to admit to yourself "I was wrong". Nobody cares if you're right or wrong on the internet anyways, and some people will never see when they're wrong or even right, so you might as well reflect on your arguments and see if you still think they hold up.

If they don't, well I guess that means you learned something