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Archer/Hunter Help Just Making Sure...

Discussion in 'Class Builds' started by minjae, Feb 13, 2017.

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  1. minjae

    minjae Az Extremist #AppreciateAz

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    ok I just want to make sure that I'm right
    so qira takes no elemental damage yes?
    so only spell damage right?
    so If I wear some spell damage % helmet, soul signal &225-ish spell damage, the spell damage leggings( I forgot name of, 200-ish spell damage, and momento(205 spell damage plus 12% spell damge) and I use arrow storm as archer.. I will do a lot of spell damage?
    from mt previous tests, the raw spell damage does neutral damage. and the raw spell damage counts for each arrow in the arrow strom.
    so you shoot like idk 60 arrow in level 3 arrow storm?
    hmm
    torrential tide(325 spell damage)
    325+225+200+205=955! per arrow...
    so your telling me that I can do lets see 955x60=57300 damage in neutral in total?
    Qira has 350000 ♥
    350000/57300=6.1
    so it will take my build 6.1 arrow storm and a tea-bag to destroy Qira? the mistress of hive? wat?
    pelase tell me I'm right
     
  2. NamesAreHard

    NamesAreHard Mage Enthusiast (She/He/They) CHAMPION

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    im not good at meth so idk but i dont think so you can always just test it yourself
     
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  3. Artifax

    Artifax Eltom Rainbow Archer | Build Maker VIP+

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    No..
    Go read @motoki1 's guide for calculating damage. Although I doubt you'd read the whole thing you're probably just gonna comment "Help me with this calculation (insert thread link here)"
     
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  4. Psychomentalist

    Psychomentalist Time is not on my side HERO

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    The only thing I'm sure is that qira doesn't have that low health
     
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    Gigavern Giant Fern VIP+

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    Ok do not ever assume the accuracy of arrow storm - most of the arrows won't hit.
    Torrential Tide is up to 520, Dark Channeler is up to 390, Memento is up to 215, Soul Signal is 325, so your calculations are super off.
    Additionally Whitecap Crown can add 325 as well.

    Last and most important, raw spell doesn't simply add to each hit, look at @motoki 's thread...
     
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    orange0401 Fortified with Vitamin C HERO

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    Iirc qira has 1500 element defense in each element @Selvut283

    Chances are you did some math wrong, arrow storms don't do as much damage as they mathematically should, look up motoki's guide on damage.
     
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  7. YYGAYMER

    YYGAYMER reeeee FW FW Media HIC Master Featured Wynncraftian

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    Spam the arrow storm to destroy her fast? You must get so close to her.
    Remember she also attacks you and you have the low defense.
     
  8. motoki1

    motoki1 The Damage Calculation Scientist HERO

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    Yay everyone's referring me :3
    Anyway, this.
    To be straightforward, you have to cast Arrow Storm 70 times, and have to hit all of the arrows to Qira in order to defeat her with your raw spell. (That's literally impossible, right)
    Arrow Storm Lv. 3 shoots 60 arrows, with 10% Damage each. This means you do + 955 x 0.1 on your each arrow, and the total is +5730 Neutral Damage per one arrow Arrow Storm.
    For more, you can visit my Damage Calculation thread from my signature.
    Most of people misunderstand this because of the Damage Indicator glitch, don't worry.
    Btw Qira now has 400k Health, and don't forget that Qira regens her HP as well.
    Secondly, this.
    Archer has the lowest Base Defense ratio among all classes. (Probably because Archer can snipe enemies?)
    Never assume that you can hit all of the arrows of Arrow Storm to her. It's even better to snipe her from away with a lot of Bomb Arrows. You do +2387 Neutral Damage per Bomb Arrow with your raw spell.
     
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  9. minjae

    minjae Az Extremist #AppreciateAz

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    can u tell me a good qira archer build?
     
  10. Stag2001

    Stag2001 360 mlg hipster cat CHAMPION

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    Nah the raw spell spreads across the arrows damage. Since every arrow does 20% damage every arrow gets 20% of your total raw spell added. Also good luck dumping all 60 into her, really hard and you dont wanna get hit.

    Edit: Apparently its only 10% damage my bad.
     
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    minjae Az Extremist #AppreciateAz

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    that's easy when u have over 150 agility like me
     
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    orange0401 Fortified with Vitamin C HERO

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    Did not know that every arrow does 20% raw spell. that makes a LOT more sense.
     
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    Stag2001 360 mlg hipster cat CHAMPION

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    Can't have over 150. It caps at 150, being 80% dodge chance (still a lot)
    10%* I edited it in, my bad. Also credits to @motoki1 the meth master
     
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  14. minjae

    minjae Az Extremist #AppreciateAz

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    blue mask(20) night vest(20) Dark Shroud(10 agility) max walkspeed seven league(11 agility) plus 100 agility
     
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    Stag2001 360 mlg hipster cat CHAMPION

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    Still can't have over 150, the game caps it at 150 :) to prevent people making 100% dodge chance builds.
     
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    random guy oof VIP+

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    I got qira to like 1/2 hp with point blank arrow storm with max channeler and signal. Then I got webbed and 2 shotted. Arrow storm spam is good for stuff like cow and death. My torriental couldn't pierce the defences so I had to use cluster. This proves that raw spell isn't added on per arrow, my raw spell is probably 1800 or so. 60*1800=absurd raw spell damage, not even including neutral and elemental.

    That's impossible. You can't have 150 agility and the 50 or so dex and int needed for channeler signal etc
     
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  17. Pokextreme

    Pokextreme Avos Air Archer HERO

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    ... 50 + 50 + 150 =250

    250-71= 179

    179-200=

    -21

    Possible
     
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    Was expecting for him to put even a little into defence, 0 defence for archer is risky
     
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    Pokextreme Avos Air Archer HERO

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    You can put another 71 into def
     
  20. Artifax

    Artifax Eltom Rainbow Archer | Build Maker VIP+

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    That has bad raw spell though. I thought the point of this was to kill Qira with arrow storms, now we're just killing her with agility? Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat??
     
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