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Explaining The Phenomenon That Is The Corruption Of Light

Discussion in 'Wynncraft' started by Gigavern, Jan 18, 2017.

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Is the correlation between Thunder and Darkness new to you?

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  1. Gigavern

    Gigavern Giant Fern VIP+

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    So @Potateau brought up the fact that Prymari, a legendary wand, split light into its main 3 components according to its lore, but it was Fire (Red), Water (Blue), and Thunder (Yellow) based. He pointed out that it should have had the element of Earth (Green) rather than Thunder (Yellow), since Green was one of the primary colors of light instead of Yellow. See this thread, https://forums.wynncraft.com/threads/prymari.171424/, for more details.

    This made me wonder why this might be. Jumla Spilled Coffee. And so I found that the world Wynn takes place in might just have different primary components of light. If Wynn's light were to include Thunder, an element repeatedly shown to correspond to darkness, instead of Earth as a primary component, it would be more prone to the Corruption and Decay. In other words, the strange composition of light in Wynn allows darkness to corrupt it, creating the phenomena known as the Decay and Corruption. And we know this composition through the elements displayed by Prymari, which splits light into its rawest components.

    Evidence of Thunder Relating to Darkness (Credit to @TheHipster and Selvut283):
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    Well rip.
     
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  2. Potateau

    Potateau Big Teeth HERO

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    Could you explain the connection between thunder and darkness? Or, give some examples from the game? This would really strengthen the theory.
     
  3. Gigavern

    Gigavern Giant Fern VIP+

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    One sec, lemme just search @SPYROHAWK 's theories for a full take on the matter.
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  4. davicusprime

    davicusprime Lightly Salted with a Hint of Cheese

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    I'm a wee bit confused... The full spectrum of visible light passes from red to violet and all wavelengths (which would be colors) inbetween. All wavelengths together create white light.

    Darkness is the lack of light of any wavelength within the visible spectrum. Total lack of light is total darkness.

    What this concept seems to be talking about is the color wheel, not light. When you're talking in terms of the color wheel: the primary colors are Red, Blue, Yellow. All colors are a combination of two or three of these. Green would be a secondary color as it is a combination or blue and yellow.

    How does this all relate?

    -DavicusPrime
     
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  5. Gigavern

    Gigavern Giant Fern VIP+

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    Blue and yellow are the primary colors of pigment rather than LIGHT(its primary colors are Red, Blue, and Green), which is shown to have been split by Prymari. Prymari splits light into Red, Blue, and Yellow rather than Red, Blue, and Green. This means that light might work differently in Wynn than in the real world. If so, Yellow is part of Wynn's primary colors of LIGHT instead of Green. That means that Light contains Thunder rather than Earth, making it more prone to the effects of darkness and as a result allowing phenomena such as the Decay and Corruption.

    Hope this cleared things up a bit.
     
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  6. davicusprime

    davicusprime Lightly Salted with a Hint of Cheese

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    That's where I was going, in terms of pigment (used in paint tinting of which I'm familiar), the primary colors are Red, Blue and Yellow.

    Kinda... But after a quick Google search, it appears that there is a second color model used for light with the Red, Green, Blue primaries. Which is supposed to better simulate how our retinas work. At least that explains why electronic displays use the RGB model. Learned something new today!

    -DavicusPrime
     
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  7. Gigavern

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    And from Prymari's splitting of light, we know that yellow being part of light means that Thunder, "the evil element or the one most associated with darkness", has presence within Wynn's idea of light, allowing darkness to corrupt and decay light.
     
  8. TwageTomato

    TwageTomato Coder | Like-Giver | Tomato | Musician CHAMPION

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    Let's get something straight. Light, as an electromagnetic wave, can have a *nearly* infinite amount of different wavelengths (not entirely infinite due to the Plank constant) varying from ultraviolet to infrared.

    The idea of RGB comes from the fact that the cones in the retinas of our eyes come in 3 varieties: those which detect "red" wavelengths, "green" wavelengths, and "blue" wavelengths respectively. A photon of light hitting a given cone will send a signal through the optical nerve to the brain with a strength proportional to the difference between photon's energy level and the energy level that the cone is attuned to detect best. If a "red" photon hits a cone that's made to detect blue light, the signal to the brain will be weak, but that same photon hitting a cone made for red wavelengths will send a much stronger signal. By combining the signals from all three types of cones in the retina, your brain can triangulate what wavelength the original light ray was.

    Most electronic screens use this idea in creating illuminated displays. Each pixel in a screen has a red, green, and blue cell which glow at varying intensities in relation to one another to produce what our brain interprets as a single color.

    In fact, with RGB screens, you can never truly create the color Yellow. Yellow is and always has been a combination of red and green.

    I hope this makes sense.

    TL;DR- light in reality is not made up of components like red, green, and blue, but that's how our brain interprets light and that's how electronic screens make colors.
     
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  9. SPYROHAWK

    SPYROHAWK Head Grand Theorist HERO

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    When referring to light, I think it's better to step away from the corruption side of things and just look at the decay.

    But also, you are WAY overlooking this. It splits light into its primary components. The primary colors are Red, Yellow, and Blue. Hence the use of thunder. You are thinking of the RGB color scale, which are not the primary colors.
     
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    coolname2034 Formerly known as NPCGrian HERO

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    Well, in art you do obtain all colors from RYB. But our brains perceive light through RGB (except this random mutants that have an extra Y receptor) color detecting cone cells in our retinas, as said above. Our brains combine light differently than pigments or colored light
     
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    SPYROHAWK Head Grand Theorist HERO

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    And what's the chance that the item creator did not know about the biology of the human eye so he just based the wand off of the art form of the colors
     
  12. TwageTomato

    TwageTomato Coder | Like-Giver | Tomato | Musician CHAMPION

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    As stated in a previous post, RBY is for pigments, like in paints. RBY has absolutely nothing to do with the color of light.
     
  13. SPYROHAWK

    SPYROHAWK Head Grand Theorist HERO

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    Eh. I still think it's just a minor error on the part of the item maker
     
  14. davicusprime

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    I would agree. Probably thought it was a cool back story for a wand. Knew a bit about colors as taught in most primary and secondary schools in the US (typically from an art perspective) then connected those primary colors to the elemental colors in use in Wynncraft and ran with it.

    Trying to read some impact on the lore based on this text may be a bridge too far. We don't know the intent if the person writing the text. Nor do we know if the elements and their corresponding colors were meant to reflect either of the two "powers" that appear to be in conflict in all the realms interacting within the story of Wynn.

    The lore and general effect of each element possesses characteristics that help define it like lightening's potency being high but erratic but always fast or Earth being powerful, stable and slow.

    I don't see these as fitting into the dark/light dicotomy. More like a way to accent the dicotomy. Like tools, they can be used to demolish or build. It's how they are employed that would fit the light or dark aspect.

    -DavicusPrime
     
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    coolname2034 Formerly known as NPCGrian HERO

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    I was actually trying to support SPYRO, as in that we're talking about physical light and not our perceptions of it, and pigments do have to do with light, since an objects color depends on which pigments it doesn't have, which bounce off. If you have a pigment that has physically all colors but yellow and one with all but red, and you mix them, then you'll get one with all but orange. But we perceive these as red and yellow mixing to form orange.
     
  16. Gigavern

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    Actually considering that Salted does coding where RGB color combos are used for creating colors (even in CMD blocks), its highly likely that this was intentional. Additional , Salted is highly intentional with elements on items, as shown with Dern's Desolation and the Abysso Galoshes .
     
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  17. SPYROHAWK

    SPYROHAWK Head Grand Theorist HERO

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    Are you sure Salted makes all the items? I thought they were made by various staff members?
     
  18. Gigavern

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    I imagine each item at least requires approval especially legendaries like Prymari
     
  19. SPYROHAWK

    SPYROHAWK Head Grand Theorist HERO

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    Approval sure, but that's mainly for balance
     
  20. Lexwomy

    Lexwomy Lexwomy HERO

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    you know how like
    in the eye of the storm
    those cultists inhabiting lexdale say stuff after the quest like
    "You cannot beat darkness infinitely or something. All light casts a shadow."
    perhaps?
     
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