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In the News Aftermath Of The Election

Discussion in 'Nemract's Bar' started by Toasted Asian, Nov 15, 2016.

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  1. ElegantDeath

    ElegantDeath Who needs a title anyways HERO

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    tbh many years ago he said he could run for president as a republican and they wouldn't care what he said and he'd just win anyways
    so that might be why he turned republican
     
  2. Florfy5

    Florfy5 a person

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    Either way, I can't stand the uncertainty...

    (Also, my mental disorder generally makes me dislike liars and my moralism makes me despise insults or racism, so that explains why I want Trump to die in a fire and go to hell.)
     
  3. Spu

    Spu ✧ JUST A MEME ✧ CHAMPION

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    Nobody even tried to respond to you that makes me sad :(
    You're getting your terms mixed up here.

    Climate change and Global warming can be both used interchangably for one thing only : the century increase of the temperature, circa 1950.

    While Global warming may only be used to describe this pattern in our current time frame, Climate change is a more nebulous term used a lot in paleoclimatology. It can describe stuff from temperature rising over centuries, to ice ages, or even a global change in the weather.

    Well, since your original definition was nebulous as all hell, you can't expect me or anyone who searches up for more than one minute to agree with this statement.

    Climate change isn't only limited to the levels of CO2 in the atmosphere, it can vary with the radiations of the sun, or even a change in the albedo (reflectivity of solar radiation from the Earth's surface) in large areas (take the albedo of Almeria in Spain, which is extremely high because of all the white greenhouses : their albedo is now very high compared to their neighbourhood), etcetera.

    Also, Venus' blazing atmosphere isn't only due to the presence of carbon dioxide, but also to the thick clouds that stop the sun's radiation from leaving the atmosphere, cooking venus and molting the rocks on its surface. Also she's very close to the Sun, so that doesn't help either.
    You talking about these fucks ?



    No because the "ozone" you're referring to must be the "ozone layer" in Earth's atmosphere. Keep in mind Ozone is also a gas.
    Even then, after saying that, you then claim :
    By your own admission, you don't believe in your version of "global warming", which states that "ozone is a shield that falls because of greenhouse gases and doesn't protect us from the sun anymore."

    First off, the ozone layer isn't a shield per say, it's more like a small layer of ozone gas in the atmosphere that happens to filtrate the ultraviolet radiations of the sun pretty well. However, this layer is getting thinner as we speak. Why ?

    Amusingly enough, CO2 isn't the main cause of this, it's almost negligible. No, the real threats to the Ozone layer are gases commonly referring to as CFCs (Chlorofluorocarbons) and varying ODS (Ozone Depleting Substances). They have seen been effectively banned because they posed a threat to the long term survival of humanity.

    Here is a projection from NASA on what would have happened to the Ozone layer had CFCs not been banned :
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    Yup, there wouldn't be an Ozone layer to speak of anymore, and most of us would die primarily of skin cancer, since we wouldn't be shielded from the UVs of the sun.
    Well given you had the wrong definition to start with, I didn't expect it to go smoothly, but still.

    For the record, on the issue of recent climate changes and global warming, keep in mind that the scientific community has a whole has established a consensus on this. This almost never happens, and the VAST majority of scientists agree on it. Scientists from all around the world, without common interests, without links, without any underlying motivation except studying reality.

    Now, if you want to claim there's a conspiracy, or that the scientific community that has been studying this for the past hundred years are COMPLETELY wrong regarding what is causing this rise in temperature, and that you know more than them about why this is happening, go right ahead. But be warned that if you attempt to prove that important of a thing and your evidence and scientific method doesn't hold up to scrutiny, you'll be made as much fun of as creationnists "scientists" who try to disprove evolution.

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    Human made global warming is a complete no-brainer if you study the subject for one year, however, some people would still deny the data, because it would directly benefit them in the long run (hello petroleum industries how are you).

    And EVEN IF scientists are completely in the wrong, I'd rather make sure we're not dependant on a finite ressource such as dead organic matter that has been brewing for millenias, and improve the general quality of the air we're breathing, especially in cities, where lung cancer is so high compared to the countryside.

    Wow, nice punishement there for a thought crime, eternal hellfire for a finite crime is immoral as fuck. Especially for a fucking thought crime of all things, lmao.
    What's next, 'if you cheated in your heart you cheated in real life' ?
     
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  4. Zelefant

    Zelefant wizard fortress will return one day HERO

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  5. Soviet Union

    Soviet Union Sieze the means of production HERO

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    You do realize if aliens really came they would be dozens to hundreds of times
    More advanced then us and could probably wipe us out easily?
     
  6. Inactive User

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    What is the least painful way to commit suicide?
     
  7. Mistrise Mystic

    Mistrise Mystic Surfing winds and chasing windfalls

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    Argon I sexually identify as AN element

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    Oh god, gotta love these political threads.

    WE ARE PROJECTING A FLAME WAR
     
  9. Spu

    Spu ✧ JUST A MEME ✧ CHAMPION

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    For once someone who doesn't isn't a fearmongering ideologue
    That's refreshing
    Look at the other thread, flame wars didn't happen. If people have a dissenting viewpoint, they don't discuss it further and just leave.
    Because most of these forums are either against both of these candidates (the majority I'd think) or biased towards Hillary.
    Not a single Trump supporter who is willing to argue and you'll end up with no flame wars
     
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  10. Argon

    Argon I sexually identify as AN element

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    True, but there will always be that one guy who fact checks and finds something for every single thing, who has erratic viewpoints a beliefs.
     
  11. aayl

    aayl Famous Adventurer

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    Tis why people live in Asia :)
    In all seriousness though, I don't understand why people get so triggered in these situations.
    Trump is president. He was chosen. End of story. You don't like him, but is going out and punching some random trump supporter gonna change things? No. You're just being a dick. Kinda sounds like the guy you hate in the first place.
     
  12. Toasted Asian

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    wait people are still replying here?
     
  13. Florfy5

    Florfy5 a person

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    Yes, and people are still misinterpreting everything we're saying and getting saltier than the great salt lake about it. I thought that'd wear off post-election.
     
  14. Spu

    Spu ✧ JUST A MEME ✧ CHAMPION

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    If you think that's salty, you should be plundering in the twitter sea, matey
     
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