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  1. John Smith

    John Smith blueking2000 VIP+

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    So yeah... with the new update alot of things were added. One of those things was a mythic dagger called "Cataclysm". And I can tell ya, ALL the endgame assassin mains are trying to get one for themselves. But no one has realized, there's a way cheaper option. And it is...

    THE SPECIALIST!

    Yep, The Specialist. NOW, You might be going like

    "Wut, u stoopid, rare dagger no good. Mythic better."

    Well, you're wrong. If you got a specialist with max thunder damage (650%), and put two tier 6 thunder powders on it, it would be pretty close to a cataclysm. Here's the math.

    1 T6 Yellow powder = +5-40 thunder.

    2 t6 Yellow powders= +10-80

    650% of 10-80 is 10-80(7.5), which is......


    75-600 SUPER FAST ATTACK SPEED THUNDER DAMAGE! WHOA!

    So yeah. You might be thinking.. "Well Cataclysm does like 250 more dmg without pooders"

    Well, then again ppl are buying Cataclysm for 20 stacks.. and 2 t6 thunder powders cost 32 le. Also, 75-600 super fast thunder damage is pretty much 3/4ths of Cataclysm, for 1/40th of the price! Great deal, amirite. BUT WAIT! THERE'S MORE!

    The Specialist has a bunch of other elemental damage buffs, so it would buff any other elemental damages in spells by around x6 each, ALONG with adding around +10 skill points in each skill, and I think that's enough make it almost, if not equal to Cataclysm.


    Agree with me? Bump the thread and tag people!
     
  2. Paradoxical

    Paradoxical Machina Infinitum VIP

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    I would say RIP dark theme users, but I actually have no problem reading black text in Dark Theme. Also maybe tag Selvut as he designed the item...
     
  3. Turtlebomb

    Turtlebomb idk VIP+

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    @Selvut283
    here
     
  4. SilverMirror

    SilverMirror Retired IM HERO

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    Due to calculations between IDs and stuff the final damage is not as great as you think, Selvut has mentioned that he carefully measured it so it needs a maximum roll of an element and its respective skill point to make it "op"

    People have tried it on different build sets with this dagger and its performance is far from beating a end game mythic weapon just due to its funkiness
     
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  5. Selvut283

    Selvut283 Circadian rhythm stuck on Tokyo time ♪ Music Item Team GM CHAMPION

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    It's actually +15 base. And, given Cataclysm's natural abilities and higher base damage, it still reigns supreme in terms of damage.
     
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  6. aayl

    aayl Famous Adventurer

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    I cant find this item on the item guide or wynnapps, can you post a picture?
     
  7. XavierEXE

    XavierEXE ♪ Wynncraft's Composer and Ability Tree Lead ♫ ♪ Music Item Team CHAMPION

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    Of course it does, it's a mythic. But can the specialist at least be as good as we think it can be given the scenario described in this thread?
     
  8. YYGAYMER

    YYGAYMER reeeee FW FW HIC Master HERO Featured Wynncraftian

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    So % thunder damage makes it great?
    Then
    Screenshot_2016-09-19-23-10-35.png
    Why not this
     
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  9. pretzellover33

    pretzellover33 Eater of pretzul- ahem, Pretzels HERO

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    Roulette has no slots and the specialist still does more damage.
     
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  10. bloww

    bloww Shoutbox Fancam Account HERO

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    Or just use this VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY cheap version
    edge.jpg
     
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  11. Ophiocordyceps

    Ophiocordyceps Well-Known Adventurer

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    Yeah I have absolutely no trouble either, I don't understand why people say it...
     
  12. Terunalix

    Terunalix The Noob

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    While this dagger Deals 2-3k Spins with 2 Tier 4 thunder on it,hue?
     
  13. Selvut283

    Selvut283 Circadian rhythm stuck on Tokyo time ♪ Music Item Team GM CHAMPION

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    Yes.
     
  14. Terunalix

    Terunalix The Noob

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    Sorry if I ask but was it planned to be that bad ? It Deals 300 melee for me at most..
     
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  15. Cruuk

    Cruuk yopyop HERO

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    Lets get even more cheap.
    upload_2016-9-19_13-30-4.png
     
  16. Selvut283

    Selvut283 Circadian rhythm stuck on Tokyo time ♪ Music Item Team GM CHAMPION

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    Try using better powders. You only used T4's, after all.
     
  17. John Smith

    John Smith blueking2000 VIP+

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    @Terunalix also, did you have max thunder damage?

    btw t4s give +28 so that would only give u like 375 thunder dam max
     
  18. Selvut283

    Selvut283 Circadian rhythm stuck on Tokyo time ♪ Music Item Team GM CHAMPION

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    I just noticed, your calculation is off.

    650% is a 6.5x boost, not a 7.5x boost.

    You're thinking of 65-520 damage.
     
  19. John Smith

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    @Selvut283 well that's where you're wrong..

    it says +650%

    The base damage already has 100%...

    so you do the base damage times 6.5 added to the base 100%

    It's not x650%, it's +650%. Just to clear up :P
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    So, I thought I was unclear so lemme STATE IT AGAIN

    It's an added 650%. so its 650% of 10-80 PLUS the base, 10-80
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    Put in google 80 + 650%
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    Specialist does like 2.1x more with two max thunder powders... also it has around 200% more thunder dam making that 2.1x around 6x more
     
  20. Selvut283

    Selvut283 Circadian rhythm stuck on Tokyo time ♪ Music Item Team GM CHAMPION

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    That's not the way that damage is calculated.
     
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