Wynncraftian Government

"What? I thought you already made a government thread?"
"That was on Gavel, this is on all the provinces"
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Anyway, if you know me, you probably know I take stuff IRL and sometimes apply it to Wynn. Now this week in Civics class, we have been learning about the different forms of government, and I've noticed some of them reflect very well onto the provinces of Wynn. So without further explanation, I want to jump into my view of the governments of the provinces, and how they actually effect the world!

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So lets start with Dern because its the one that we dont know about but we dont have the resources to know about yet. Basically we have all been pretty much assuming that Dern is a dictatorship. Some powerful entity, probably "The Eye", is controlling the province. Most likely in a violent, aggressive, way. Now since the devs have made a specific point of not letting us see Dern's history, we really are just going off of speculation for this one. I just wanted to get it out of the way.

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Wynn does not seem to have a main government, but its more of a confederation of city-states. The citadels of Ragni and Troms have their own kings. The grand city of Almuj is controlled by the bank. The cities of Nessak, Maltic, Detlas, Selchar, Nemract, and Rymek all fall under the supervision of the bigger cities, although each city does seem to have its own military. Due to this, Wynn does not seem to have an official government.

But why does hit matter? Well, each time a city has a problem, they need to rely on just themselves to fix it. Or, as we learn, the player tends to solver these problems. If there was a main central government, then it would be easier to fight off the corruption, as all the cities are unified as one military. Almuj would not have a water problem as they appeal the the central government, and get aid from there. Ragni would never have had such a big plague, since it would be easier to amass food and medical supplies.

The whole storyline in Wynn could not happen if it was unified. Instead, its a confederation of city-states.

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Gavel, obviously, comes next. I already did a thread on this, but now I have the proper term. Oligarchy. An Oligarchy is when a small group of people, specifically the rich and powerful, rule over a nation. Sounds familiar? It should, as Wynn Excavation literally used those words to describe the power in Gavel and their influence over Wynn.

This explains why, as I stated in the other thread, Gavel has a central military instead of city militaries like Wynn does. It has not come in yet, but I am sure this Oligarchy will come in when we get more of the Gavel lore. It might explain why the government is not fighting the Decay, whats going on with the Dwarves, and all the rest of the mysteries of the government that we are yet to understand.

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Next I want to talk about Fruma because although it is written in text, the problem is not what it seems. In the library, we are literally told that the people of Fruma are being oppressed by their Monarch, and everyone with magic is being taken away. So its obvious, right? The whole point of Fruma is that the government is a Monarch.

Or is it? Look at Ragni and Troms. They have a monarch. Sure, the king of Troms helped Wynn Excavation and the king of Ragni has a resistance opposing him, but neither of them seem tyranical. No. The REAL problem in Fruma is not what the government is, but what the government wants to be.

Let me throw in a new word for you. Theocracy. A theocracy is a government where the nation is not ruled by a king, council, or anything like that; but by the word of God. The whole point if that the people are ruled by a deity. Whatever holy book or writing depict the religious rule in the country are also the governmental laws. This is the real problem in Fruma, the Monarch (we dont know if its a king or a queen) wants to be depicted as a god. In theocracies, the governmental system is based on priests and whatnot, with the clergy taking the deity's word and imposing it on the people, as well as interpreting it.

This means in Fruma, the king/queen wants the whole nation to basically worship them, and they would use priests to make sure the people do in fact worship.

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Lastly we get *shudder* Corkus. I kept this for last because we know basically nothing, so its the hardest to try to do.I feel like this island is going to compare to what happened in the USA. After we split from England way back when, we decided to make the Articles of Confederation. The problem here was that the people were SO afraid of having another king, they were scared of ANY form of central government.

So I am predicting that in Corkus, the people will have some kind of council (Parliamentary Government). Or, if the nation if small enough, a Direct Democracy where every single citizen votes on everything. This will probably play a role when we actually get to Corkus. Being initially from Fruma, the people would have a strong distaste for us. And its not like we need to make one person like us, we would need to make EVERYONE be in our favor (or majority at least).

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So yeah, thats my theory on the governments and what effects they will have on the plotline.



Al Simula

SPYROHAWK

 

first muahahaha

okay so what i gathered from this and my thoughts;


Frumpa:
I do not believe Fruma is a theocratic province, i think it has a parliment. my reasoning behind this is that an Engineer in selchar says that a certain province is far more advanced than Gavel & Wynn. Fruma, I believe he is referencing. If I were to think 'Advanced, theocratic country' I would not be able to think of anything. If i were to think 'Advanced, democratic country' I would be able to think of many countries.

Dren:
Though corruption is created when Dark and light mix (Dark-Dern, Light-Gavel) I could only assume that Dern is the complete opposite of Gavel, this meaning that it would be (In my eyes) an undeveloped province, not a dictatorship, but something more along the lines of a Nazi Party. (Just without the holocaust and the dictatorships)

Crockus:
I don't have anything to say here

Gavel:
In my eyes, I believe Gavel to be a capitalist society, where companies practically rule the province. This will be the richer companies, such as GavelExcavation (Yes, it exists people!) I also think this because the cities on the southern side of Gavel seem to be getting richer and richer, whilst the northern cities are getting poorer and poorer.

Wynn:
I 100% agree with you.


I like this :)

 

Corkus better be just like 'Murica or I will be very upset.

 

and what's the point of this?

 

Pretty sure I'm the same library lore it's said that the fruma gov opposes magic to make their kings seem like gods. Or am I just crazy .-.

My thought exactly, it seems ever since he correctly guessed a fourth province he's been on a wild goose chase to try and garner the same fame or whatever

 

Inb4 we find Trump

 

Actually, Detlas has it's own Governor.

 

Corkus is meant to be very technologically advanced. It is quite obvious the Engineer is referring to it.
He also says the province is invite-only, while Fruma currently has opened its gates.
The northern cities of Gavel are getting poorer because all their stuff is getting wrecked by decay, so it's not solely companies.

 

The engineer in selchar is most likely talking about Corkus. And I agree with what you say about Gavel, but that's what Spyro probably means by an oligarchy - the heads of these companies are the rich and powerful.

 

Ah, okay. I see your points and they are quite logical.

 

Engeneer dude is referencing Corkus, not fruma

 

my thoughts exactly.

right time to tie this stuff in with more real world stuff xD

Theocracy:
Kinda like the Pharaoh in ancient Egypt. The pharaoh did all these weird things - and the people worshipped him as a messenger to the gods.

In what you put forward in the Corkus government sounds like this:
In ancient Athens there was a council sorta thing. The council decided on smaller matters. then there was like.. this bigger council who decided on more important matters. To get in the bigger council you entered a lottery. There were 2 people leading Athens and making the most important decisions. These people were also decided by lottery.

soz if my history is wrong
feel free to correct me

 

What's the point? I like making theories, that's the point. I'm not trying to "garner up fame" as you call it, I'm just doing what I like to do.

Plus even if YOU don't think it's important to look at the government of the provinces, someone else (like me) might

 

A technologically advanced punchline to a joke? It's America, no contest

 

I thought of dern as more of medival country after a giant war with a shit ton of dragondms with only five survivors in each city.

The wynnian cities help each other in times of need dont they?

 

rarely, drought sands for example.
Also, i had a thought. who would rule the ocean?

 

Ocean is neutral territory and drought sands is bullshit as they have a metric button of water

 

metric butt tonne of sewer water*

and thanks

 

I can conjure ice out of thin air and make it rain flaming rocks so I think they can do smth about it

 

because they are trying to run away from the memories and we bring them up