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SPOILER A Weird Warrior Bug

Discussion in 'Wynncraft' started by Herachilles, Aug 31, 2016.

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  1. Herachilles

    Herachilles (Old IGN: TheWynnslayer and snorlax109) VIP

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    For some reason when ever I try warscream a mob it will only hit them once instead of doing a multi-hit. I tried switching servers and stuff but it won't work. Not only that but Lifesteal doesn't work... like at all. I understand lifesteal went through a nerf because it was abused to afk grind, but now, no matter what I do it won't work. These problems only started happening today too, was there some sort of attempt to patch last night?
     
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    Spu ✧ JUST A MEME ✧ CHAMPION

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    It's probably either a side effect of the nerf needed because of glitch abuse (hello Orange Wybel) or an act out of frustration given how glitchy War Scream has been recently.
    That's what you guys get for abusing bugs.

    Imo War Scream doesn't even need to deal damage, since it's just a buff spell, just like Mage's Heal
     
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    Herachilles (Old IGN: TheWynnslayer and snorlax109) VIP

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    But it was also the most damaging spell if you were to land all the hits, It does like 3x more the uppercut
     
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    Slyarcticwolf Wolf VIP+

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    pretty sure uppercut was meant to be the damaging spell..
     
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    Sanae_pls That Fucking Dark Wizard

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    War Scream is meant to be one hit that knocks you back a lot, this hit being low damage
     
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    Spu ✧ JUST A MEME ✧ CHAMPION

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    It's meant to be a buff spell, not an attack spell
    Why would the self admitedely support spell where you scream that knocks your enemy away from you need to be more powerful than literally making your target explode 3 times in the sky ?
     
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    Herachilles (Old IGN: TheWynnslayer and snorlax109) VIP

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    Actually you explode once in the sky, twice on ground
     
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    get outta here
    warrior sux it doesnt deserve a nerf
     
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    Spu ✧ JUST A MEME ✧ CHAMPION

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    I'm just stating my opinion; War Scream doesn't need to make damage to be valuable. If you'd take Escape from Archer and remove the damage on landing, what would it change ? Nothing.
    Sure, it's nice to have a little bit of damage, but don't act as if this "nerf" (which is most likely to prevent abusing the glitch in question) is going to make warrior completely useless.
     
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    Herachilles (Old IGN: TheWynnslayer and snorlax109) VIP

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    But Warrior is now completely useless, Warscream was one of warriors only defense against archers/mages. Whats the point of warscreaming if it doesn't do damage? All it will do is give ranged attackers more space between you and make it impossible for warriors to kill them
     
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    Spu ✧ JUST A MEME ✧ CHAMPION

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    Hyperbole
    What are you talking about ? Are you referring to duels or the Nether ?
    If you talk about duels, then how about you lead them indoors to fight them. No shit Archers and Mages have a better time outdoors than a close combat class. .-.
    Nether gameplay has been unbalanced to hell a long time ago, if that's your biggest concern, then I think you shouldn't play nether to begin with.
    Buffs ; why it was made for to begin with.
    As I said, previous point.
    Wynncraft is more a PvE based game than a PvP game, so I'd rather have them disable War Scream's ranged damage while they work on ways to balance it better than having tons of people soloing Orange Wybel and get weapons and loot they don't deserve.
     
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    Herachilles (Old IGN: TheWynnslayer and snorlax109) VIP

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    Well The warrior wep sucks anyway.. And you don't even need scream damage to solo Wybel, He's in a closed space anyway, Just simply don't get hit alot and dodge. He's honestly a pretty easy boss even without scream/lifetsteal, a lot of people have soloed
     
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    its a nerf
    all melee builds do good war screams
    that nerfed melee warrior
    by a shit ton
     
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    Herachilles (Old IGN: TheWynnslayer and snorlax109) VIP

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    Anyway.. I think the warscream not damaging is just a bug that I hope gets fixed soon
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    I dont think it is
     
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    GandalfTheMLGrey Travelled Adventurer

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    I'd like to weigh in on this a bit, if you don't mind.

    Warrior is a bit harder to play due to the playstyle that fits it best. Warrior classes tend to play on the defensive side, and most of the spells are close range. However, most other classes far outpace warrior because they utilize high-damage range spells. Archer has all its spells as ranged, for obvious reasons. Mage has a very good ranged spell as well in meteor. Even assassin has a decent ranged spell in smoke bomb.

    Warrior had Warsceam as its ranged spell, and it often helped to make breathing room and hit ranged enemies. If Warscream loses its multi-hit capabilities, Warrior loses most of its ability to combat ranged enemies with knockback. This is a sever disadvantage to Warrior, and makes the class that much harder to play.

    Think about it like this: Ranged classes don't need to worry about getting hit because they can stand far enough away to kill enemies without being attacked. Warrior needs excessive defense as a base minimum because it lacks ranged attacks. Most of Warrior's crowd-control spells introduce too much knockback as well, whihc makes it hard to kill mobs as Warrior often suffers from walkspeed debuffs as well (a side effect of defensive armors).

    If you play a air-thunder warrior to get around the walkspeed debuff and to get higher damage potential, you run into the problem of still lacking a needed ranged spell to counter the damage taken for close-quarters combat, and the knockback involved as well.

    Even with the added resistance buff from warscream, knockback renders a warrior helpless in virtually every ranged situation. It doesn't matter how much you can tank if you can't hit the mob.

    Finally, on this point:

    Not everyone can get a party so easily in this game. It's hard to find others to play with you, so soloing bosses should be possible. Personally, I don't have a guild, and although there is a forums section in the game I don't really want to be stalled because I have to find an archer or mage, with higher damage potential, just because I can't kill the boss myself.

    And besides: if they soloed it, then I believe they deserve the reward. That's fair in my eyes. They put in the work, and they got the reward.

    Thanks for reading.
     
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    Herachilles (Old IGN: TheWynnslayer and snorlax109) VIP

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    Thank you for summing it up for me, If the warscream thing is truly a nerf instead of a bug, I want you to talk some sense into the GM's

    I'd also like to add that warrior used to be the most balanced class in the game, Im pretty sure it didn't have any nerf/buffs in the past because it didn't need any
     
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    Oh yeah it is, I know that for playing Statue Knight on my Hive run before the sprint bar, boy that was fun.
    I'm just saying I don't mind if it disappears since I'm playing a Thrundacrack build at the moment .-.
    So far, I've never had any problem with ranged mobs, even so, I've had more pain as archer because instead of charging and spamming it until you reach them, you're stopping midway if they hit you with a projectile while you're escaping.
    I didn't believe people who were using a cactus build deserved even half of their kills in the nether.
    I didn't believe people who got to 101 by afk grinding deserved the level.
    I don't believe that abusing a glitch to reach your goal makes you earn your prize.
    You still get it, but I don't personnaly think you earned it in the slightest.
    I guess we'll see, but right now I'm more enclined to believe it's a bug (which would be weird to just be touching war scream randomly out of the blue) or just disabling the damage to prevent glitch abuse in the time they're working on it.

    I'd rather have a clean game and have a time struggling to fight than having a broken game with people getting stuff they shouldn't be :P
    Then again, I'm not a GM, so if you want clarification, maybe one could weigh in on this issue instead of useless drivel
     
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    Herachilles (Old IGN: TheWynnslayer and snorlax109) VIP

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    Yeah I don't like AFK grinder or glitch abusers either, but thats why they nerfed the thorns-lifesteal glitch
    (And before you accuse me of purposely making a abusive build) It actually wasn't supposed to in the beggining, Hence why I actually wanted the nerf, and why I still use my build, I only had thorns because I use Cotv for reflection, thorns was a side effect
     
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    SCOTE37Gaming Well-Known Adventurer VIP+

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    Dude I have the EXACT same problem too. War scream is our only way of lifesteal. But lifesteal only works if multi-hit. Please rebuff war scream please we do not deserve this.
     
  20. XavierEXE

    XavierEXE ♪ Wynncraft's Composer and Ability Tree Lead ♫ ♪ Music Item Team CHAMPION

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    That was the bug.
     
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