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Reaction/Discussion The New Sp System Might Not Be As Bad As You Think!

Discussion in 'Beta Feedback' started by robincaiye, Aug 25, 2016.

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  1. robincaiye

    robincaiye ♧ the local (broke) emerald dealer HERO

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    i was gonna remove that typo but i got lazyyyy
     
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    Ackro The true Elite Quadbrid! HERO

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    I would like to remind you that Temple of the Legends is no longer a grind fest, thanks to Selvut.
     
  3. ShadowMage1

    ShadowMage1 Seraph of Twilight

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    It's a good system to keep. You just need to...

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  4. XavierEXE

    XavierEXE ♪ Wynncraft's Composer and Ability Tree Lead ♫ ♪ Music Item Team CHAMPION

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    I'm sorry that I don't feel like playing a full tank build on all my classes and/or don't have the money to buy maxed endgame gear and/or have a beast of a computer.
     
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    ShadowMage1 Seraph of Twilight

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    All I'm trying to say is

    DON'T DIE AND PREPARE.
     
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  6. XavierEXE

    XavierEXE ♪ Wynncraft's Composer and Ability Tree Lead ♫ ♪ Music Item Team CHAMPION

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    How can I prepare for a lag spike?
    How can I prepare for a getting stuck in a wall from a quest teleporter and having to /kill?
    How can I prepare for a boss fight when I don't have the Le to afford maxed legendary endgame gear and mythic weapons? (Don't say potions, I'm a squishy mage. Potions take too long to take effect with my low hp, and heal is instant)
     
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  7. robincaiye

    robincaiye ♧ the local (broke) emerald dealer HERO

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    You might die. Don't have less than 5 SP, and you have a max of 15 SP.
     
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  8. Ophiocordyceps

    Ophiocordyceps Well-Known Adventurer

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    Lag spike?

    Lead monsters around and shoot them like normal. They will appear to not be moving but they are so act like they are walking normally and keep making them take the hits. Alternatively if you can't lead the predictable AI around run and they probably won't catch up.

    Stuck in a wall?

    /kill only takes 2 SP if I am correct. You lose two soul points and as long as you have a 1 death per 2 in game day ratio you regen soul points faster than you lose them. If I die or lose soul points I normally regen them by the time I start to play again. Also if you are at 5 sp then just go offline for a while. If you sleep at night you should have at least 10 soul points every time you wake up assuming you gain 1 per hour offline like I think it is, you sleep at least 5 hours per day, and you somehow get to 5 sp.

    Boss fight?

    When you get into a boss fight at the game's current state, well they aren't that hard with Wynn X D and the Hive being the only challenging ones with Bob in the corner needing a buff so right now, yeah.
    I don't have access to the beta so I'm going to go off the Wither Head skeleton dungeon thing we got to see with stepping on the thing to avoid his special attack.

    I plan to have a strategy where you just focus on dodging and learning the attack pattern for a bit, if you can get in damage during that part do it but mainly learn the attacks. Then after you know what they are able to do go in and deal as much damage as possible while still preserving yourself by dodging and predicting the next move. For most games that strategy works fairly well.
     
  9. robincaiye

    robincaiye ♧ the local (broke) emerald dealer HERO

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    20 mins = 1 mc day = 1 sp
    60 mins = 3 mc days = 3 sp

    1 hour = you're usually safe
     
  10. XavierEXE

    XavierEXE ♪ Wynncraft's Composer and Ability Tree Lead ♫ ♪ Music Item Team CHAMPION

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    you only get 1 soul point an hour if you're offline
     
  11. robincaiye

    robincaiye ♧ the local (broke) emerald dealer HERO

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    afk /class or in a town
     
  12. XavierEXE

    XavierEXE ♪ Wynncraft's Composer and Ability Tree Lead ♫ ♪ Music Item Team CHAMPION

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    /class and you get no soul points at all
    swarms happen in towns
     
  13. Chino

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    Why not go in a house and close the door, or afk on a roof?
     
  14. OrientGamer

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    Honestly, I don't give a damn about lost items. The only items I would really care about losing are good armor sets or mythics. Other than that, most things should be able to easily acquired in this update, or easily replaced.

    All these people who are overreacting are just use to the old system, which is understandable. I'd assume most will learn to live with the new one soon enough however. Either that, or Salted can work out a compromise which creates an overall fairer system. I just think that everyone disputing should wait until they've actually tried the soul point system, and played it for a good amount of time before they actually judge it, or call it "bullshit."

    Despite this, I highly doubt everyone will quit disputing. It's just too hard to satisfy some people, and too tempting to continue the debate for the sole purpose of like-farming.
     
  15. XavierEXE

    XavierEXE ♪ Wynncraft's Composer and Ability Tree Lead ♫ ♪ Music Item Team CHAMPION

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    I have tried it, so my judgement has some testing behind it. And I still hate it.
     
  16. OrientGamer

    OrientGamer Veteran Writer - Artist - OG memer - Doge VIP

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    I understand. Even if I don't completely agree with you, I can see your reasoning :)

    My point is just that I don't see why everyone is freaking out so bad about it, when most haven't even tried it (though some like you have), or haven't experienced it for a long enough period of time to get used to it. I do think however that a compromise on a small scale could be worked out, or some more communication between the staff and the player base could be established. Hopefully all this fuss will result in more than just arguments and ignored points (on both sides)!

    The only real issue I have is when people exploit confusion and annoyance to gain likes, which only results in more issues and anger.

    Once again, I see your points and your argument. It just annoys me when you and others go beyond the necessary amount of criticism to prove your point. Thank you for reading :)
     
  17. robincaiye

    robincaiye ♧ the local (broke) emerald dealer HERO

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    - The afk-grinder will decrease
    - I didn't really understand the old system. You die and lose nothing and respawn until you lose your soul? When people die, they have somethings with them that get lost.
     
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    LIKE CAN NO ONE UNDERSTAND THAT IF UR UNLUCKY ENOUGH U CAN LOSE LEGENDARY OR WORSE MYTHIC
     
  19. OrientGamer

    OrientGamer Veteran Writer - Artist - OG memer - Doge VIP

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    Everyone understands that. No need to yell.
     
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  20. robincaiye

    robincaiye ♧ the local (broke) emerald dealer HERO

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    that's why people wil be more careful with tp scrolls, grinding and quests :/
     
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