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Bug Possible Item Id Reroll Bug? ( Confirmed To Be A Bug )

Discussion in 'Beta Feedback' started by Jacquie, Aug 25, 2016.

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  1. Jacquie

    Jacquie Archer is bad change my mind HERO

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    Just thought I should bring this up in case:

    Ok so, I tested this for the sole means of making sure it was possible or not, but I don't know if it's intentional or otherwise.

    If you take an item that comes pre-id'ed, (Tree Bracelet, dungeon rewards, etc) and go to an identifier, you are able to reroll the ids on it. I tested this but I got lower IDs on my tree bracelet so I don't know if it's possible to get better ids than what it comes pre-id'ed with. It seems to me like you shouldn't be able to reroll these types of items. (Hive items could get extremely broken with this)

    If I should toss out the rerolled tree bracelet, let me know.

    EDIT:

    1. My friend @Lesliep tested this and found you are able to get higher IDs on pre-id'd items by re-id'ing a tree bracelet. (Don't hate on him, he did it in the name of science)

    2. According this screenshot of Pretzule in skype a guild member sent me:
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    3. I wanted to make sure this was actually true, (not that I distrust my guildmates, but you can never be too careful), so I found pretzule in-game and msg'd him asking about it:
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  2. Twin Lotus

    Twin Lotus Straw Hat

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    IMO I don't think these pre-id'd items (like what you said about the Tree Bracelet) should be able to have that re-identification feature. Now that I am reading this, I feel like it is a bug.
     
  3. Jacquie

    Jacquie Archer is bad change my mind HERO

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    Exactly why I posted this, I felt like these items shouldn't be able to be rerolled.
     
  4. Thunder

    Thunder Chief Thunder HERO

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    Don't let my dreams of getting a +2 Tier Clock Boots die... ;-;
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    please... ;-;
     
  5. Jacquie

    Jacquie Archer is bad change my mind HERO

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    Sorry! But if it's a bug/exploit it should be brought to the attention of staff.
     
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    Thunder Chief Thunder HERO

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    I really don't think this is a bug, but we will see.... ;-;
     
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    Thunder Chief Thunder HERO

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    Actually, I don't really see any problem with this... and here is why...

    Pre-ID'ed items, in my believe, were designed to be decent and balanced all around. For this reason, the items could be bought with pretty good IDs at the start without worrying about getting lower IDs. The downsides of this before this beta included the inability of getting better IDs on these item with the risk of throwing off the balance of an item, for better or worse. Just look how much +2/4 Mana Regen Royal Stormy amulets inflated in price after the pre-ID was set. Allowing the reidentifications adds the lower IDs risk factor for the player, but with the small chance of getting better IDs by paying quite a bit of emeralds.

    Now, let's talk about emeralds:

    Quite a large amount of people have stacks upon stacks of emeralds. Allowing the reidentification of items lets those built up stacks to be released back into the wild. Some might argue that this will ruin the economy (Mythics, RS, etc), but I believe that it would improve it instead.
    The good and bad thing about ReIDing is that the price to ID increases exponentially each time. At first it isn't much, but it adds up more and more every time. In the end, it ends up being luck based... just like horses, you could either get a better or worse item.

    As for your Hive arguement, I believe that those items are untradable. Add untradeable + 1 per class + high reid price and you have a pretty fair system.

    You shouldn't bother throwing the Tree Bracelet away since it will be gone when the update moves out of beta.
     
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  8. Jacquie

    Jacquie Archer is bad change my mind HERO

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    While I do agree with a lot of what you're saying here, I'd still rather have a moderator/gm/someone weigh in on this before we say it's intentional or not, which I why I said this was a possible bug. Anyways I gtg for tonight, I'll check on everything in the morning.
     
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    Andkorn Well-Known Adventurer

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    Just saying, +2 tier clock boots will be useless or at least less useful after the update, as +tier now only effects the speed at which you hit.
     
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  10. Eric Yang

    Eric Yang RIP Mincreafterkid12|THE LEGEND NEVER DIES

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    It will be Extremely Useful for melee classes.
     
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  11. Aya

    Aya Very Serious Gensokyo Journalist

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    it's not a bug i think,it happened to my bob's mythic bow,it has different stats than when i bought it(the normal stats are...just look them in the ToL.and my bow had different ones,cause it came unidentified cause gavel update :v)
     
  12. Jacquie

    Jacquie Archer is bad change my mind HERO

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    Bumping for awareness.
     
  13. Lesliep

    Lesliep Lazy Wynn Mage

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    @Selvut283
    I read this thread and followed up on the testing, and re-IDed a Corpse to get 2 strength 6 melee and 7 loot, followed by a tree bracelet to 6 regen. It appears it is possible to get higher rolls than the original stats, is this a bug? Or on purpose?
     
  14. Selvut283

    Selvut283 Circadian rhythm stuck on Tokyo time ♪ Music GM

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    No idea.
     
  15. Jacquie

    Jacquie Archer is bad change my mind HERO

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    Last bump for awareness.
     
  16. Lesliep

    Lesliep Lazy Wynn Mage

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    Quick bump from me to remind people. There still seems to be players who think this isn't a bug.
     
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