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A More Realistic View Of Fruma

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  1. SPYROHAWK

    SPYROHAWK Head Grand Theorist HERO

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    I know. I talked about Fruma in my last thread (sorry for putting out this one so soon, I know it has only been 10 days, but other theories are gonna take a while) but this one is different. I was doing some stuff and I think we (or I at least) have been seeing Fruma through the wrong lense. The problem is not some time or desolation thing, but something much more real and much scarier. (Killer cliff hanger right there).

    Before we being I just want to say I do realize that we know very little on Fruma. This is all assumption and speculation, so keep that in mind. I also want to state some ideas may have been byproducts of reading other people's comments on my last thread, but it's too much to mention by name, so just go and check those out. I will also leave some spoilers at the bottom explaining the status of why I still have not out out the Devourer theory and stuff like that. Anyway, have fun reading!

    Also just to not what you are going to expect. I am going to make one main statement and put evidence for that, then use that statement to make 3 smaller theories with evidence on what Fruma's problem could be. But it's key to get the big point across first.

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    Ok so let's start with the bare minimum. Fruma is a province. Like Wynn, Gavel, and Dern. However what we have been doing is taking what we know about the other 3 provinces and applying it to Fruma. We said every province must have a realm as well. Gavel has light, Dern has darkness, Wynn has corruption. But what does Fruma have?

    That's actually the point. Fruma does not have a realm.

    "Vas Ist Das?" I hear you screaming in your incorrect German accent. How can this be? Well remember, Wynn did not have one either. The only provinces that we KNOW FOR A FACT started with realms are Gavel and Dern. They started with the very basics of all magic, light and dark. Wynn did not have a realm until those two forces clashed and made the nether and the corruption. And that only happened because it was directly in the middle of light and dark. Fruma is off to the side somewhere (unless it's magically floating above Wynn, but I think someone would have brought that up if that's the case) so it's not in the crossfire of the other realms. It does not have to have a realm.

    I know, takes away some of the hype from the whole "war of the realms" but hey, think about it. It's entirely possible that Fruma does not have such a direct effect in that conflict.

    (I still argue that it has the realm of time/desolation, but for the sake of this theory, I am putting that aside)

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    So now that we have stated that, I see 3 potential possibilities.

    -War
    -Depression
    -Our enemies strike back!

    Let's start with war. Or in this case, civil war (cue avengers music).

    One thing a lot of people have been saying is that Fruma could be undergoing a civil war or something. tbh this has no evidence to support it (like most other Fruma-related things) but it is something to take a look into. A province on the brink of war. An oppressive government verses a fearful people. A revolution occurs! This could give us one of two options. Either we are trying to make a peaceful resolution, or we fight as well. You know how we have split ending quests? What if we had a whole split ending province? The people or the government win depending on the choices we make. It's a possibility.
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    Edit: I forgot to mention that this idea would have the war starting in the last 3 years (before the player comes to Wynn). Because why would the player come to Wynn if there is a fight to be had in Fruma?

    The second thing I had in mind (which tbh has more evidence) is that Fruma could be under some sort of Great Depression. Why? Who knows? But our evidence for this one is actually ourselves. Look at us! We were hired by the King of Ragni to fight hordes of undead creatures and all other manner of nightmare. And for what? What's our paycheck? Nothing. Only the loot we can find from the bodies of our fallen foes (and I guess our daily rewards could be seen as a payment. I mean, why else do we get them?). But why would we ever accept such a job? Because we are some "chosen one"? Hell no. Never are we called that. It's because our home province is poor and we traveled all this way for what meager emeralds we could find. Idk what we would do in Fruma, but it would involve giving money to the people. Perhaps the government is corrupt (not like Wynn corruption, but like corrupt corrupt) and hoarding all the money. Perhaps we steal from the rich and give to the poor. Who knows.

    Now little thing to point out before we go into our final possibility. People said that it can't be time or desolation from a Dev's point of view. How do you make mobs based around time? How to you make time a problem? Is all of time gonna end or something? But these possibilities here I specifically wanted to point out that they all have an easy to make problem and potential storyline. This last one is the only one that does not paint Fruma as a dystopia, but I wanted to ask you to look at it from a creatablility perspective.

    We have family in Fruma. Or old mom and pops. Sister, brother, wife, husband, daughter, son, whoever. We also have made A LOT of enemies during our time in Wynn and Gavel. If one of the many powerful groups we have fought wanted to take us down, how better way to do it than to attack our family? This would also be easy to implement. We go to like the cinfras post office or something and we get a letter saying our family has gone missing and we need to get back home to Fruma right away. Plot twist: the big bad guy (who remains a mystery during the entire thing) is like just some minor person we made angry once that we don't even remember.

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    Anyway that's my theory and possibilities. Theory (if you need recapping) is that Fruma has no realm. The possibilities are, well, possibilities. Really this could be in general suggestions, but I felt it fit better here.

    So yeah, that's that. Tell me what you think! Am I right about Fruma not having a realm? Am I wrong? What other possibilities are there for storylines that don't involve and kind of realm or anything?

    So I started working on a thing with some other peeps who won't be mentioned yet on time valley. That's probs gonna take most of my forums time along with Devourers so keep that in mind if you expect some big jumbo super theory soon. Sorry mate. Gonna take a while.

    So I know I promised that this thread was gonna come out soon, but it's taking longer than expected. One detail keeps throwing me around in circles. I don't want to shove out an incomplete theory, but then again the only rational expectation (I use "rational" VERY loosely) I can come up with gives "the eye" time magic powers and I'm sorry I know I make some far fetched theories, but that is NOT happening. So I keep looking until something clicks.

    So what actually is the next thread I have planned? Idk when it will come out. Between 1-12 days probably. It's going to be a general suggestions thread on more consumables, so make sure to keep an eye out for that!

    So that's all for today! Sorry for the messy thread, I have a bad habit of making threads late at night.

    Thanks for reading!

    Al Simula

    SPYROHAWK
     
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  2. Yuno F Gasai

    Yuno F Gasai Forum God, FW

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    Fruma, the sims dlc.
     
  3. Reyko

    Reyko Wynn Soldier HERO

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    This probably has nothing to do with the theory, but do you think that Fruma will have a "Provincial crisis" like in Wynn with WynnExcavation Site D? (Or possibly even a "Global crisis"). And yes, I do know we barely have any information on Fruma.
    Well, this isn't much details, but I'd like to see a threat on a global scale, whether it be in Gavel, Fruma, Dern, or any other future provinces if added. I don't count WynnExcavation Site D, because the NPC after you defeat Amadel says that he was going to "Save this province.", not the world, which leads me to believe that this counts as a provincial crisis, in my eyes anyway.
     
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  4. SPYROHAWK

    SPYROHAWK Head Grand Theorist HERO

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    Well really the whole "war of the realms" is kind of threatening all the provinces, don't you think?

    That is legit what this thread was about? Well, kind of I guess. The first 2 possibilities would be Provincial Crisises
     
  5. WithTheFish

    WithTheFish Internet Macrocelebrity

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    I hope Fruma doesn't have any darkness/decay/whateverdesolationevenis because that's getting old. I don't want Fruma to necessarily be futuristic or steampunky or whatever newcomers think it'll be, but I really hope it's something different for a change instead of something involving a realm or dimension.

    I personally think Fruma's exiled you (why you're heading to Wynn) and you have to regain their trust in some fruma quests?
     
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  6. Zelefant

    Zelefant wizard fortress will return one day HERO

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    Maybe, sort of like Dern has possible multiple doors, whatever is on the other side of the Time Door connects to Fruma, too. That may be why the Time Door is only barely open, and Fruma is the speculated next province to be added. Maybe as Fruma continues to be developed, the door will slowly open? It could be a reference to how people weren't very patient with Gavel, and it is telling us that it takes time to make these things. Time.
     
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  7. Reyko

    Reyko Wynn Soldier HERO

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    If that were the case, wouldn't the Corruption be a major problem to both Gavel and Fruma? Since the Corruption in Wynn is the result of this war of the realms.
    I just realized, the Wiki states that the Corruption is what made the Nether that way an unknown amount of time ago; not sure if this is correct or not. If so, did Light and Dark create the Nether itself and Corruption?
     
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    DirtyDoge Master Procastinator HERO

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    You wanna know why Fruma could actually be in a civil war?
    Because Corkus is trying to become independent, and Fruma does not like that.
    When they add Corkus one day, all you non-believers will feel so stupid.
     
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    ron111701 proffa CHAMPION

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    I hope fruma's building style is In the style of those Progoda things, like the one in the canyon of the lost. I think the Asian inspired building style would contrast nicely to gavel and wynns building style

    It started ~1000 years ago mate, read some lore on weapons and armour will ya?
     
  10. SilverMirror

    SilverMirror Retired IM HERO

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    It would be great if you can make a theory hub with links to all of your previous theories that you bump it up every time you made a new theory so that more people can know of your previous works :)
     
  11. whatheckno

    whatheckno cool guy HERO

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    Hey what's up
     
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    Interesting concept. It would make sense that Fruma is sending its men to fight in Wynn in that case. The one thing I have against this one is that you are a fighter, not a political leader saving a country from an economic depression.
     
  13. Yuno F Gasai

    Yuno F Gasai Forum God, FW

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    its called his "posted threads" tab.
     
  14. The Humbler

    The Humbler Well-Known Adventurer

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    Well, Fruma has like one piece of in-game loot from what I can find, a pair of Fruma-imported boots. Stats:
    Fruma Imported Boots (Leather)
    • Health: +28
    • Lv. Min : 9
    • Health Regen: +5
    • Speed: +2%
    • Health Regen: +2
    This makes it clear that Fruma has (or had) the ability to use magic (that or the villagers found Fruma as well) to enchant boots, and that they had the tech to make stuff like armour. The fact that it's still available now says that it probably didn't lose the manufacturing ability until extremely recently, if we buy the "civil war/depression" theory. There have been histories of families sending their sons from rural places to fight and find work in the city, which isn't all that surprising (China). What matters to me most, I think, is that by the time Fruma is released and if we did come from there, it might have lost quite a lot of it's active citizenry (they were all sent to Wynn). If the monsters made it there, well... it might actually be in ruins.
     
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    ComputerDude alive? idk HERO

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    My theory is that Frauma is currently a wasteland after a great Civil war. That causes the decision of the king recruiting from the survivors, because most had lost their jobs, and could survive a civil war.
     
  16. SilverMirror

    SilverMirror Retired IM HERO

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    No shit Sherlock, I'm just suggesting making a hub thread can make people check out his previous work casually.
     
  17. SPYROHAWK

    SPYROHAWK Head Grand Theorist HERO

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    You were never actually exiled. Your were recruited.

    I was not planning on it, but I guess I could.

    I want to point something out about the boots. You say they counter the depression idea, but they actually support it. Fruma selling boots to other provinces and stuff in order to get what little money they can?
     
  18. Reyko

    Reyko Wynn Soldier HERO

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    Would be nice if you stated what weapons/armor have this lore.

    Yes, it is about 1000 years ago for the introduction of the Corruption to the Wynn province, but when the Nether came to how it is now is not specified.

    "The Nether was destroyed by the corruption an unknown amount of time ago, before the Nether Gate was discovered by human miners. After discovering emeralds on the other side of the portal among the red stone, the miners constructed a quarry around the gate and dug until they breached an unknown barrier; this allowed the undead out of the Nether, and the corruption quickly began to spread throughout Wynn."
    - Wiki
     
  19. SPYROHAWK

    SPYROHAWK Head Grand Theorist HERO

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    Tbh that part is a bit sketchy. I always assumed it was just created when the realms clashed, but I don't think it's ever really made clear
     
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  20. Reyko

    Reyko Wynn Soldier HERO

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    There's one thing I don't understand about these portals to different realms. How the portals got there in the first place. Did someone make them, were they just naturally made there, or what?
     
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