Dagger Help

Hey guys so I'm a air Assassian and have no skill points in strength and defense (cause air assassian) so I was wondering should I use bob mythic or alazarin ( which needs 15 skill in every element)

 

If you are an air assassin, use an air dagger...?

 

For my neutral damage (insert a pic of a offended looking fish)

 

You could also use Sans to that end. It's got a fairly high spell damage boost.

 

*Insert Undertale meme here*

 

But in all seriousness, Sans is a pretty effective dagger, if basic(which is part of why it's called Sans- It is mostly without effect).

 

U should've made it super op but still a unique... Sorta like Magnus... PS MAGNUS HAS MORE RLEMENTAL DAMAGE THAN APOCALYPSE. wtf



Jk but still.

Spoiler: Undertale spoiler

in the gene use route sans is like a god boss to fight so why would the weapon named after him be not op?

 

Because Sans is lazy. Notice how -barebones- this dagger is? It did have a namesake in the form of the skeleton, but if something is Sans-x, that means it's generally very simple. Ever heard of sans-serif fonts?

 

Archer is suppose to have the highest base damage in the entire game if i'm correct. Or was it warrior? Magnus is like alkatraz for archer but fire damage & neutral damage, it also has no element debuffs like -130% thunder damage

 

Highest damage supposingly goes to Assassin.

Supposingly.

 

Archer has the highest base damage, but it can only hit one target at a time with its basic attack while Assassins can hit as many as are within range.

 

except that requires getting close to the enemy
which ends in death
or spamming smoke bomb
which is all people do as assassin now

 

Even though I kinda want an assassin buff, the point of assassin is that you go up close to the enemy anyway. The problem is that often you don't do enough damage at that range to survive, e.g: people grind at Toa 6-7, warriors, archers, mages seem to be fine there, however as assassin it's actually pretty difficult, and I don't kill the mobs there fast enough to really get the most of the xp, and I do end up dieing very quickly if I have no pots.

 

By that logic Mage should have higher 'damage' rating than Archer since Oak Wood Bow does less damage than Oak Wood Wand if the Wand hits 3 or more mobs.

 

Well, part of your problem is that the Tower of Ascension mobs are only meant to be grinded enough to progress to the next floor; they were never intended to be grinded for XP, and their XP values have been appropriately adjusted for the next update. These mobs are designed to kill you, even moreso than other mobs. Some mobs are just designed and spawned in such a way that they are -asking- to die. Others, such as the Tower of Ascension mobs, are designed to kill you in an efficient manner.

Or, they could actually use some strategy while fighting. Stringing spells together in conjunction leads to swift deaths on the part of the enemy. And, unlike how most people seem to enjoy throwing themselves straight into mobs' fists while fighting them, keeping a short distance, as in enough to use your basic attack but remain out of range of the enemy, will shockingly not result in death. At least, not the death of the player. I feel as though you only see the most incompetent assassins. The skills do not need adjustment, players simply need to learn how to play the class. This is like saying that a character in a fighting game is bad because they have a spammable move, when in truth they can fight much more effectively when putting forth actual effort.

I didn't create the system. I am just quoting what Salted said on the matter.

 

Alright, I get why now :3
Anyway, for @XavierEXE using your basic attack when in range does help reduce the speed the mobs are going at you, or you can use spin attack. I've never found multihit actually very useful, because of the mana cost and (for me) little damage difference between spin and multihit. Vanishing against those mobs has also been more of a mistake than a help, since it really just wasted mana for me. When surrounded or with very little hp I can see its use, but most of the time using spin when surrounded helps more than using vanish

 

If you have never found Multihits to be useful, you are missing out on a valuable offensive and defensive asset of the Assassin's moveset.

 

True, the level III upgrade is really useful when you need some breathing time and get send them off in any direction you want. Or it could be used to deal lots of damage. (10 mana though ouch)

 

Multihits, at some point during the bevy of patches, was buffed from 250% back up to 350%. the Help guide was never updated, but there was definitely an increase in damage, and remember that the attack speed multiplier on weapons augments that even further, which widens the gap. Even a normal speed weapon has Spin dealing 400% and Multihits dealing 700% total, and a Super Fast weapon has Spin at 800% and Multihits at 1400%. It is well worth the cost once you learn how to use it.

 

Honestly, I do more damage, keep the enemy under more control, and put myself in less danger by Spin Attacking followed by a Smoke Bomb rather than using Multihit.