The Government Of Gavel

Should I be disappointed or proud?

 

One more minor thing that may or may not contribute to the thread; in Cinfras there are Royal Swans and a "Royal Gardener". Does that mean Gavels (Royal?) government is there? This is probably just a coincidence but who knows.

 

She's portrayed as edgy, but not evil

 

I'm sure it's just a phase

 

You just raised a new question for me: Are guilds Wynn or Gavel? If Cinfras is the central government, why is the only building fit to be a "castle" the guild hall?
And Cinfras is the most likely, as none of the other Villager Cities include castle-like structures, so maybe guilds are actually run by gavel, or it is militarist, which causes a lust for conquest.
If the guilds are controlled by Gavel, which gives them indirect partial control over Wynn, then perhaps we'd better prepare for war against Gavel. However, a new question is raised by Amadel's assistant in Wynnexcavation Site D, where he says that Amadel was going to save the province. This makes no sense as Amadel said he'd end all life, so perhaps Gavel IS going to try to overtake Wynn by "saving" it from the human race, which would explain it's expansive military to combat Wynn's Army?
Before you say "The Villagers are trying to protect Wynn", the Villager race is way too greedy to do that off it's own accord, and none of the leaders of any of the cities gave bribes, considering they started working before the royalty of each city even knew of it's existence. Remember how, in the lore, they refused to help Wynn until they found out about the emeralds.

The villagers are going to attack Wynn, aren't they? Prepare for war, guys...

 

I am certain that Gavel is under one Government rule and this thread only reinforces the idea.

What if the "seat of power" may not be directly IN Gavel but is actually outside the province? It makes sense as we have mapped all of the province by the last quest.

Llevigar, Cinfras, Ahmsord might ALL be used as gatherings for the Government, who says that there has to be one only?

Perhaps this Gavel Government is the Government of not just political areas but of the whole province and land itself and by establishing such rule, they force the other species to co-operate as it is the law of the land.
It makes sense that the other species still have their own smaller governments or rules, I do not think the Gavel Government was stupid enough to believe they would be able to control every species and race under one Government without rebellion or civil war.

What is their agenda though?
We know they have some kind of influence in the WynnExcavation storyline and that took place in the Wynn province mainly. I believe, through reading certain theories and searching areas that have been discovered on the Forums, that they are attempting to control Wynn too.

My main reason is Almuj.

Almuj and Nesaak are known to have rivarly between eachother and probably had a war in the past or may have one very soon as evidenced by the military bases in both cities (one is under Nesaak's weapon shop, one is somewhere in the desert of Almuj).

Gavel may be using Almuj as a proxy to war on Wynn and break them apart from the inside.

Cinfras and Ahmsord both have airports and are capable of airship travel/transport. Ahmsord is also directly west of Almuj. It is likely that Ahmsord and Almuj are using a trading route on their side of the Ocean to transport supplies to and from eachother illegally, meaning not being transported to Detlas.

Could Gavel be supplying Ahmsord with weapons and troops to aid in the battle against Nesaak?

Nesaak is close to Troms and are only seperated by the Jungle which leads to Dernel Jungle and Troms also has a quick passage to Ragni and Ragni is the only known way which leads to Fruma. Strategically speaking Nesaak is a perfect place to claim and set up base.

Why would Gavel attack Troms and Ragni though?

Troms is AGAINST the Gavel Government and WynnExcavation.
That's the whole reason they betrayed you. It was a last resort after the King of Troms attempted to argue against the Gavel authorities about their facade, WynnExcavation and their greed for power.

Ragni, being allied to Troms must therefore disagree with the Gavel Government.
You could say the fact Ragni has never been affected by or been hinted at helping the Gavel authorities as evidence to support my claim but that is up to debate.

Now where does Nesaak fall in?

As I said earlier, Nesaak is the only way to Troms and Dernel Jungle without using the Troms-Ragni passage.
Nesaak is therefore very vulnerable to attack by those who wish to invade Troms and Dernel Jungle, such as, hmm I don't know, WynnExcavation?

Nesaak and Almuj are also rivals from what we can theorize and as I guessed earlier, Almuj is with the Gavel government whereas Nesaak should oppose it for being allied with Almuj and the possible threat it poses to Nesaak.

The war in Wynn will be between Gavel, Almuj and Nesaak, Troms and Ragni.
That's my theory of the Gavel authorities agenda at least.

EDIT

I think Elves and Dwarves should be excluded from being under the law of Gavel's Government and instead belong to their own Governments.

I believe the Villagers refuse to aid the Elves and Dwarves due to their persistent rejection of Villager rule. This causes a rift between the three races and causes segregation and discrimination.

It's possible that the Villagers hope to conquer the Elvish and Dwarvish settlements using this tactic, the end goal being that the Elves and Dwarves give in to their rule in return for help against invading monsters or war and thus establishing rule across the whole province of Gavel.

 

That Might explain villagers in Efelim maybe they already started (Correct me if im missing something im not at any lvl for those quests)

 

Let's hope nobody puts our theories as suggestions...

 

Ok, there's one serious problem with this thread. If Gavel and Wynn have governments and militaries, why do people always need your help? ( pointed out in multiple quests ) There appears to be no laws, military or police force.

@SPYROHAWK

 

Because their military sucks

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Llevigar is also fancy

 

I forgot about that. But now that you mention it... Hmm...

Since it's the guild hall, is it possible that the whole of Gavel is just one giant guild?

Well here's a thing. Protect the province. Protect Wynn, or Gavel?

But why would Gavel want a Wynnic civil war?

Because the military is spread to thin? Or better yet, they are so focused on the upcoming war that they don't pay attention to the needs of the normal people. Remember how the guy in Olux says that the police don't really do anything.

 

You don't really have enough evidence that Almuj is a city under the corruption of Gavel's Higher Ups.
Get me more evidence that Almuj is against Nesaak, and Ill come back to your theory.

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• King of Troms: WynnExcavation, the Gavel company is a fake, a facade. It's not real....

• King of Troms: It's actually a secret society run by the high and mighty of Gavel.

• King of Troms: They have one goal, complete control

-Wynn Excavation Site D Stage 4

They have one goal, complete control

I think "complete" covers Wynn too.

Side Note: I wouldn't use the term "Gavel" here, I don't think all of Gavel's government is bad.

 

Well that's interesting. But it never actually mentioned government. The high and mighty leading the society could just be super rich guys who happen to be power-hungry.

But I agree, complete probably covers Wynn too

 

It might be better/best to wait for the follow-update to explain the Dogun plot and Dwarven involvement in Gavel.


(elaboration)

If you wander around Rodoroc enough, you might find an uncommon mob called "Escaped Dogun" implying they're enslaved to the dwarves, not caught in the middle of a civil war. {there's also a ruined Doguni Town not far from the Fortress Cavern.}

It's possible that Dogovi was a Dogun town that was captured by the dwarves in some small inter-Cavern battle and the Doguns had something stolen from them that caused their society to collapse.

 

I am going to tell you something right now. If you ever tell me to wait for the update before making a theory, I will ignore you. I was told that before I took my unexpected break, and three months later it's not come out. I am not waiting. Also making a theory on it now is even better because we get to see if it's right or wrong when the update comes out.

That being said, most people do think (as you said) the war was between the Doguns and the Dwarves, but look at what the wynncraft Twitter said about them.

"The Doguns: A now critically endangered species of humanoid living magma. This race fell victim to the Dwarves war."

(I copy pasted that quote, so it is exact) Now let's look at that. They fell victim to the dwarves war. Victim is a strong word. It really does make it sound like they were just caught in the middle. And dwarves war? Notice how it's dwarves, not dwarven. It makes it sound as if the whole war consisted of dwarves fighting dwarves.

And the way the tree guardian spirit guy talked about the Doguns. "Oh, the poor Doguns" or something like that. Really it sounds more like a humanitarian situation than a military one.




But that's just my view of it.

 

My theory uses past theories and findings to fit together the idea of an Almuj and Nesaak war
It was a thought based on this map highlighting areas which are near Almuj and their possible connections to Gavel and WynnExcavation, the two military bases discovered in Almuj and Nesaak and finally..

WynnExcavation itself!

WynnExcavation has set up locations in places that are very close to the East-end of Wynn such as Almuj, Nesaak and Troms/Jungle. Throughout the storyline we find out more and more about this company. We find out that it's goals are more for cultish/religious reasons (the Eye) than political ones.

The Eye is obviously associated with Dern.
We know that the Ancients originate from Dern.
We also know that the Ancients appear as Endermen who are associated with the Eye of Ender.

It is widely speculated that Dern is near the Abandoned Mines and Dernel Jungle. Almuj is very close to the Corrupted Mines and Nesaak is even closer.

Nesaak is also the only way to Troms without accessing the path between Troms-Ragni as I mentioned before.
Dernel Jungle can only be accessed through the Jungle which requires you to pass through Nesaak first.

It makes sense why they set up bases near this side of Wynn, it may be where Dern lies.
Why they want to go there is a different topic, one that is unknown to me.

WynnExcavation was questioned by Troms and the King' inner circle was turned against him for that.

WynnExcavation was not being inspected by Nesaak but it makes sense, Nesaak is not very powerful compared to it's neighboring cities and the company is being supported by the higher-ups of Gavel.

WynnExcavation was not being questioned by Almuj and this is what I found fishy.

Almuj has wealth, military power and it's government contains larger amount of land than Nesaak. Surely they would not be intimidated by WynnExcavation that easily, especially if they would have the support of Troms and Ragni, the two strongest cities, on their side?
You could say that WynnExcavation was not a threat at the time but that doesn't make sense as we know it's a fake, a facade to hide the higher-ups of Gavel' true agenda meaning it was funded and supplied by the powerful of Gavel.

Almuj is powerful and is close to many of the excavation sites.

It makes sense why Gavel would want a war between Almuj and Nesaak and as evidenced by the military bases they likely will have one or have already had one.
Almuj could overpower Nesaak and Gavel's Government will gain territory closer to the Corrupted Mines and Dernel Jungle. They have already infiltrated Troms and can now easily declare rule on Eastern Wynn.

That IS the goal of WynnExcavation from what we know, they seek COMPLETE control.

If they claim the East side of Wynn, they will be able to send in an army to Detlas from Almuj and the East, gathering economic power and new transportation routes if successful.
Then, they can send in troops through the Troms-Ragni passage, from the Ocean and from Almuj-Detlas to invade Ragni and from there they will start invading Fruma.

By then, Gavel, Wynn and Fruma will be under their control and only Dern will be left.

Why would it not? We know that the Villagers are greedy by nature, we know that WynnExcavation was supported by the higher-ups of Gavel and we know Almuj and Nesaak are both preparing for some kind of battle.

If Wynn falls from the inside, taking it from the outside is only easier.

 

wow

 

Make Almuj and nessak fight... Split the province down the middle... Pick up afterwords.

Perhaps.

 

cult approved wow, bow down for da tems

 

Wait, what if part of, if not the complete reason why the villagers opened their gates was to scatter Wynn's soldiers (the players), thus allowing an easier takeover as their strongest troops are literally miles away from Wynn?

Gavel is only suited for Lvl. 40+, and the further you get from the gate, the higher the level recommendation is. This may be a coincidence, but I'd be surprised of the guards that can be killed by a Lvl. 10 and a bunch of lower leveled players can defend. Most high level players are in Gavel for quests, because their levels are too high for Wynn, so they go halfway, if not all the way, across Gavel, heavily weakening Wynn.

Gavel can then send their whole army, but, having no high-level players in Wynn makes it weak to the Lvl. 60 and 80 soldiers from Gavel.

Breaking it up makes it weaker, so Civil War + Scattered Troops = 99% chance of takeover!