Guide Grandmother Builds! Added A Work In Progress Build!

People have told me many times that Grandmother is a shit mythic. After making this build, I can somewhat agree. There's just too many wasted slots trying to make up for the huge debuffs that Grandmother provides.
Without further ado, lets get it!

Spoiler: Glass Turtle with a Huge Fucking Rocket Launcher

This build HAS been tested. The results are shown below.
Pros:
20-30k Arrow Bombs
High Health Regen when Grandmother isn't equipped
Decent Melee Damage
Extraordinarily high Earth damage, enough to bypass any elemental defense.
Loot bonus on a useable, endgame build.

Cons:
-40% Walk Speed (With my build. ID's will affect this)
6.1k Health (Changes if you have good Snail Boots)
Intel isn't too high
Tons of negative elemental defense.

We start off with the centerpiece of the build, Fatal! jkjk

Spoiler: Le Fatal

As you can see, it has really shit HP regen. It takes 3 armor/accessory slots to fix this.

ARMORS:
GRAY MASK

Spoiler: Mask

It provides the skill points needed to use this set, which is skill point intensive.

MUMMY'S SHIRT

Spoiler: Shirt

I was lucky enough to get a +2 one. It boosts damage by quite a bit, at the cost of moving really damned slow.

ELECTRIC PANTIES

Spoiler: Panties

Be sure to have one with low negative Earth Damage, or your bomb's will be pretty shitty. This increases your damage from 15k-25k. Pretty good.

CRAPPY BOOTS

Spoiler: Boots

These are actually really damned good. Without this set piece, this build is trash. I have 2k hp without this thing. Health regen is always necessary too.

ACCESSORIES:
For our accessories, we need to make good use of our 25k arrow bombs, so we need mana regen.
Our Ring #1 is one that I'm hesitant to use, and you will see why:

Spoiler: Ring #1

Yeah, that mana steal doesn't help. That's why I'm only using one of em, so if I get 'lucky' and mana steal triggers, I won't lose all my mana.

I may consider using 2 of these. I'm not sure.

Spoiler: Ring #2

Yeah, this is a bit worse than Concentration in the mana regen department. No drawbacks other than -5 hp though.

This bracelet is probably the second most important accessory/armor piece, other than Snail Boots. You'll see why:

Spoiler: Bracelet

You see that insane Health Regen? I do. It nullifies Grandmother's negative Health Regen. Again, I don't really like wasting armor/accessory slots on balancing out negative stats, but you have to.

Another great necklace for this build, only because Snail Boots can't completely handle by itself.

Spoiler: Green Rock Attached to a String

You actually end up with +37 HP Regen and +3% HP regen with this build.
Pretty sweet.



Now, for raw skill points:
100 Strength
45 Dexterity
30 Intel
8 Def
13 Agil

Note, this will need to be changed based on how good or bad your Blue Mask is.
Strength is for Grandmother, obviously.
Dexterity is for the Greaves.
The Intel makes it so Arrow Bomb takes only 5 mana.
The 8 Def is for the Golemlus Core
And finally, the Agil is just there so that you don't get one shot all the time.

Here are the ID bonuses (Without Grandmother)

Spoiler: Stats

Take in account for Grandmother's boosts and debuffs if you want the real stats.

Elemental Def:

Spoiler: Elemental Defense

Yeah, I know, kinda shitty.


Now, time for the good stuff... The sweet sweet damage.

Spoiler: Melee Dmg

That's 2.2k per melee. This isn't an accurate depiction, as this is pretty high. Its around 1.5k-2.5k per hit.

Spoiler: Arrow Storm

I dunno, wayy to much.

It costs 4 mana to cast.

Spoiler: Stomp

That's a good 10.5k dmg. Again, this was pretty high. Its usually 6.5-11k.
It costs 2 mana to cast.

Spoiler: Arrow Bomb

This is 30k damage for 5 mana. Pretty solid. Believe it or not, this isn't uncommon. If you can get the crit, this is how much it will do. It generally does 19k-35k damage.

Spoiler: Shield

Wat. Holy shit. This actually surprised me. That's 36k damage, and when I tried to recreate it, I got 30k+ pretty consistently. Its range is about 25k-38k.
7 Mana Though. Maybe had I invested a bit more in Intel it'd be 6.

Enjoy! I was actually extremely surprised when I got these damage values. Originally, I tried using Spectre and Vaward. It only got me to around 14k bombs, but at least I had 9k hp then. This is quite the glass cannon, but can be healed pretty quickly when you don't equip Grandmother for a short period of time.

Spoiler: Wanna Be Spring Build (WIP)

Alright, my idea for this build is strange. It is Str/Intel/Agil, and focuses mana regen, spell damage, and melee damage.

Pros:
Great Melee Damage
High Mana Regen
Not as Slow
Unconventional Armor Pieces, so based on supply/demand, it should be cheaper
High Mana Steal
8,420 HP + Not Shitty Elemental Defense

Cons:
Still Slow
Estimated 15k Arrow Bombs
Requires Melee'ing/Potions to Heal


ARMORS:
PISCES
This is for the Mana Regen and high +Damage%.

MUMMY'S RAG
This is for obvious +2 Attack Tier cheese

CRYSTAL
Good Mana Regen and a bit of Walk Speed. Skill points are always necessary.

CAPRICORN
Good Mana Regen+ Good Mana Steal. Great all around.

ACCESSORIES:
JESTER RING
Skill Points for everyone! Life Steal is necessary to make up for lack of Snail Boots

CONCENTRATION
For obvious mana regen reasons.

RA
Obvious Health Regen benefits.

GOLEMLUS CORE
Obvious Health Regen benefits.


Skill Point distribution is as follows:
100 Strength
35 Agil
55 Intel

The remaining skill points can go into anything.

All these are required to wear the armors, provided that your skill point boots are good.

Spoiler: Results of Modified Testing

So, I got myself a good Capricorn for 15LE, and with 7/8 pieces in the set (wore Spectre to substitute Pisces), I tested this build.
Sadly, this build just can't handle no Snail Boots. My HP dropped extremely fast.

I will be making changes to this new build as I feel that there certainly is potential in it. (Still need Pisces)

 

Or, here is a crazy idea, -do not- try to boost your attack speed to massive levels and focus on an actual proper EARTH setup to take advantage of it.

 

Blasphemy!

 

;-; I tried that, it didn't work lol

 

Your hp makes me sad.

 

If you do not like the intel, try pieces of the blue gem "set", Sapphire and Turquoise in particular. They both utilize Strength and Intelligence, and Turquoise gives a rather good boost to health regen. In addition, you could try utilizing combined earth/fire items, such as Rodoroc's Pride or something similar to boost regen as well, while also boosting earth attributes instead of becoming paper by desperately vying for massive attack speed.

 

Mhm.. I knew it is very hard to build grandmother decently, health is crap.. but qira is no longer your enemy. oh, and I should say, "nice work".

 

Can someone make an endgame guild for water mage?

 

Tbh, the earth dmg may not penetrate Qira's Earth def.
Anyway, good build :D
(I love the style that killed enemies before u got killed)<--- wt I'm saying

 

Nice damage, that's more than my Az...
But rip Hp maybe sacrifice your mummy's rag for a Leo and trade snail boots for Capricorn/Passus Lux?
Or change the suppression out with a Finesse just for that extra spell damage
Or maybe a breeze hands
Idk

 

Qira is still very much a threat. Sure I can pierce her elemental def, but last time I tried, i got annihilated. My low walk speed makes me vulnerable, and my negative elemental defense makes her 2 shot me.

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You're right. I'm right now trying to make a rounded Grandmother build. Right now, this build makes me a glass tank. Low movement speed, low health, but extremely high damage.

 

Dont try to cancel the negqtive health regen ... Just go for the highest damage possiblyand have a spare bow for traveling only use grandmother in a fight

 

:P

 

He has blue mask for a reason

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Except the attack speed boost kinda worked.

 

He complained about lack of intel keeping his spell costs high, but using other items that do not focus on strictly boosting attack speed will not only mitigate this weakness, but also give him significantly more health, as he said he wanted to go for an all-rounder build with the weapon. As it is right now, this is a complete glass-cannon.

 

Nope. Trust me, I've tried this. It doesn't work at all. When you're only using Grabdmother when you need it, you'll still be taking a shitton of damage. Anyways, when traveling, I just don't equip it.

 

i am doing the same thing with inferno and it works perfectly fine
i dont really understands how it can make you take more damage

 

400 negative health regen+-27% health regen hurts like HELL

 

which is why you do need some potions
but the thing is that if you truly build this bow with earth you can even go over 30k arrows bombs , so you just need to use it once a fight in a duel unless the enemy has insane agility or def and even if he does , its only 2-3 more times which wont take that much health away
and against bosses... its gonna kill them really fast as well
its a wierd playstyle

 

Well, I"m getting 35k arrow bombs...
It kills fast, but without my health regen gear, I'd drop too low too quickly. I've tried, trust me.