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Drop Chances

Discussion in 'Wynncraft' started by itos01, May 10, 2016.

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  1. Yuno F Gasai

    Yuno F Gasai Forum God, FW

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    what moe was saying is the you divided one by a positive number smaller than one, the result will be bigger than one not smaller
     
  2. itos01

    itos01 Fandomship of Yuno Gasai

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    woohoo this thread might become a thing ^w^
     
  3. Glitchedslayer

    Glitchedslayer Godly Horse Breeder and Memer HERO

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    wait, 1/0.0007?
     
  4. itos01

    itos01 Fandomship of Yuno Gasai

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    it is 0.0007% or 1/1.000.000
     
  5. Mettymagic

    Mettymagic she/her HERO

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    I think we can all come to a concensus that we suck at math.

    Btw the final result is 1/142857
     
  6. Moe_Ronickah

    Moe_Ronickah Traveling through hyperspace . . .. CHAMPION

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    Again, ouch. The chances of a mythic dropping is o.ooo7. That is a number. It reads as seven ten-thousandths, or 7/10 000. It is not read as a percent, although it can be converted into a percent. Out of every ten thousand drops, seven should be mythics. 0.0007 is not divided into, nor is it divided by, any other number. When @Shitposting 101 erroneously divided 0.0007 into 1 (1/0.0007), he did so for no real mathematical reason, but he did so in error. The result is a whole number, approximately 1429, which would mean that out of every single item drop, there would be 1429 mythics being dropped, an obviously ridiculous conclusion. He then compounded his misunderstanding by dividing that whole number by 1, getting 1/1480 (sic).

    Again, the chances of getting a mythic weapon are 7 in 10 000 item drops. Most likely considerably less than 7 in 10 000 mob kills, as it appears that the chances of having a mob drop an item is about 0.50, or 50 percent, or 1 in 2.

    EDITED: As the chance of getting a mythic weapon is 0.0007% ip. cit., the probability of getting a mythic weapon on any single drop is 7 in 1 000 000. Out of every 1 000 000 mob drops, 7 of them should be mythic weapons. The 50% adjustment was erroneous, based upon reading Salted's original game chat.
     
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  7. Mettymagic

    Mettymagic she/her HERO

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    Ouch. It's higher than that since to convert a percent to a decimal it would become a 0.000007/1 chance, or 1/100000 if I'm correct.
    Or is it 1/1000000

    Jesus we suck we need to stop pretending how to math
     
  8. Moe_Ronickah

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    Unless I am grossly mistaken, it is not a percent. There is a 0.0007 chance of a mythic item dropping. If it is a percent, it is my misunderstanding, and my math would be easily corrected for same.

    0.00 000 07/1 is 0.00 000 07, for heaven's sake. Anything divided by one remains itself. No, you are not correct.

    EDITED: Upon reading Salted's original game chat, I was mistaken. Salted expressed the odds of a mythic dropping as 0.0007%, which is the number 0.00 000 7, read as seven millionths. Corrections to my above posts have already been made.
     
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    It is a percent, and I was simplifying it. To simplify it as a fraction you have 0.0007/1 or as a decimal 0.000007. To turn it into a 1/x fraction we need to see how many times 0.000007 fits into 1 using division. That number will be X. 1/0.000007=142857.142857. Rounding it, we multiply both sides of 0.000007/1 by 142857 to get 1/142852.

    They did the math.
     
  10. Moe_Ronickah

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    No. Any number divided by 1 is itself. 0.0007% is 0.000007 as a decimal. Percent means per hundred (per cent).

    Your method works, however, it is mathematical nonsense*. What you actually did, is to take [p] = (0.00 000 7/1) ÷ (0.00 000 7/0.00 0007) = (0.00 000 7/1) x (0.00 000 7/0.00 0007), and cancelling out we get (0.00 000 71/1) x (0.00 000 7/0.00 00071 ~= 142 857, or about 1 out of every 140 000 drops should be a mythic, on average.

    *It has no rhyme, nor reason, to it. In actuality, dividing a number by one, in the form of itself/itself, is a logical step. The rest of it is apparent.
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    I disagree.
     
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  11. Mettymagic

    Mettymagic she/her HERO

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    I know that my math makes no sense bit the only thing that matters is that it works. :P

    To be honest this is the place I would least expect to have a math arguement lol
     
  12. itos01

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    Yeah xD even tho there is clear proof telling us the 0.0007% thing in the news.
     
  13. Moe_Ronickah

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    What you are actually doing works, but it works because it is essentially the correct process, but broken up into common steps, even if you don't know the correct reasons why you are doing those steps. LOL
    All mathematical work is an argument. Either the math is correct, or it is not. Something else that I leaned. :smile:
     
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