Guide [outdated] The Unofficial Identification Thread

Is it possible to counter it with positive life steal?

 

yes

 

Yeah, this works with any negative IDs. For example, my Mage has a -1/4 mana regen necklace (don't ask, I'm trash) but his wand grants 3/4 mana regen, so I get 2/4 mana regen.

 

For Mana Steal and Life Steal, the percentages given for each attack speed average at around 2 seconds per steal, but it is still random, so it's tough to predict.

And I have a weapon with +2 Tier Attack Speed that increased how fast I could use melee hits...

I don't wanna be that guy that just emphasizes the bad and doesn't look at the good, this thread is 95% correct and is super helpful ^-^

 

Does it actually increase the DPS a weapon can do? I've tested a Fast weapon and a Fast weapon with +2 Tier Attack Speed, but the DPS seemed the same, unless the DPS is increased very slightly. People have also said that it increases the amount of spell damage done, and I've noticed that as well before.

I updated it with what negatives do BTW.

 

well the amount of spell dmg it does shouldn't be affected, but it really should just chage the attack speed of your weapon letting you basic attack faster

 

Not sure if anyone mentioned this but % health regen, when its negative you don't lose health, just regens slower

 

Edited. Thanks.

 

Thanks, I didn't know how to add

 

umm..? I think positive IDs' min IDs are x 0.3 to the base.
Also, positive IDs' average are x 0.8 to the base.
(I mean, base IDs are from Item Guide, those IDs from Item Guide are not average. Just base IDs.)
Idk about the negative IDs, but their min IDs are x 0.7 to the base.

 

I forgot average meant something else, whoops. I'll change the wording.
Also, I thought the way to find Min. and Max. IDs were to either add/subtract 30% from the base (Excluding Mana Regen and Mana Steal).
Like how x0.7 is basically -30% from the base and x1.3 is is +30% from the base.

 

xD
Beliefs aren't gut, I got embarrassed from that so many times.
nvm.

 

PS: I found out how the positive/negative max/min IDs are calculated, so I'll post this just in case. c:
(Base IDs are from official page's Item Guide, or you can easily get max/min IDs from here, thanks to @Syaoran3 )
・Positive IDs
Min: Base x 0.3
Average: Base x 0.7
Max: Base x 1.3
・Negative IDs
Min(max): Base x 0.7
Average = Base
Max(min): Base x 1.3

Spoiler: example

If you had Statue, the base IDs are these:

So if you wanted to calculate max Health Bonus ID, 3000 x 1.3=3900. So, max Health Bonus is 3900.
Then, if you wanted to calculate the lowest Speed Bonus, -140 x 0.7 = 98. And so, lowest Speed Bonus is 98%.
And if you got numbers after the decimal point, just round that.

Another example: Alazarin

If you wanted to calculate the max XP Bonus, do 23 x 1.3=29.9. Then round it, therefore the max XP Bonus will be 30%.

IM SORRY FOR THIS LONG REPLY I JUST WANTED A PRANK BRO

 

Alright thanks. Gonna edit it.

 

Welp, just checked the Forum Rules. I can bump dis.

 

Explain to me what negative poison does. Does it give the mob health back?

 

It has before, but I've been hearing that it's been fixed.

 

Great thread, but I believe that melee damage is affected by attack speed (damage output) due to the actual melee attacks speeding up as well. (i.e. arrows are shot faster on very fast than on very slow, etc)

 

Are you sure that it's working like this right now? I tested it yesterday on my Warrior with a Tisaun's Proof +2 Tier, but it didn't actually increase the attack speed, just how fast it looked like it swung.

 

I know it definitely works for archer. Most definitely. If you come onto wc1 rn I can show you.