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Media Letter To The Wynncraft Administration

Discussion in 'Wynncraft' started by Jacksohn_01, Apr 3, 2016.

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  1. Jacksohn_01

    Jacksohn_01 Legendary Procrastinator

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    Hello Fellow Wynncrafters!

    Most of you know about Wynn-Translate, the people who are translating all the quests to a bunch of languages. I am the head translator of the russian translation team, we're part of the Wynn Translate group.
    We, Wynn Translate, translated quests voluntary, hoping it gets implemented someday so more players from around the world are able to understand what is actually happening around them in the game. Earlier I got a Business Proposal to make an all russian Wynncraft server.

    The reason for that proposal: Many Russians like the concept of Wynncraft. They love the music, builds, and landscapes. Sadly, most of them do not speak the english language and can not understand the quests and can not enjoy the full experience of wynncraft. Of course they could look up the translation of the particualar quest they are playing, or why and what that pink text is, which pops up every minecraft day. But as I've been told, they would be too lazy to do that. Well, not all of them, there surely will be people who look up every translation, althought they will stop doing so, as it might get boring for them after a while.

    The person who contacted me was @SNUPIR. He has contacts with several people who could make a fully translated Wynncraft a reality, famous russian minecraft youtubers who would advertise for the server, and folks who are way better at translating from english to russian. Of course the original Wynncraft team will get an income off of the donations which are going to the russian server, so Team Wynncraft would not be left out.

    So, Wynncraft Admins, what do you think about that?
    I am hoping that this thread is going to get a lot of attention, as it might influence the future of Wynncraft and Wynn-Translate.

    Cheers
    Jacksohn~
     
  2. Glitchedslayer

    Glitchedslayer Godly Horse Breeder and Memer HERO

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    The people who would be in charge of translating are GMs. But all the GMs are working on the current update. To my knowledge, builders are pretty much done, but the GMs are busy with finishing quests, powders, dungeons etc. Keep in mind that translating is just as hard as making quests since you will need people to proof read everything for typos or broken code. On top of that, they will have to do that for every quest since you will probably get an option to pick which launguage you want the game to be in and they cant have that for only a fraction of the quests.

    EDIT: I just noticed that you would have to translate quest books, some mobs if not all, some items if not all.
     
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  3. Yuno F Gasai

    Yuno F Gasai Forum God, FW

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    translation is already taken place by volunteers, @Jackson is the leader of the Russian team which is why I contacted him when @SNUPIR proposed this.
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    as the self proclaimed head of the wynncraft translation team I declare my full approval of this project!
     
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    Glitchedslayer Godly Horse Breeder and Memer HERO

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    Do you mean translating diolouge or the actual full code?
     
  5. Cruuk

    Cruuk yopyop HERO

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    Oh shit, I thought @SNUPIR was this random crazy guy looking for some sort of shady deal back when he posted on Tama's profile

    oops
     
  6. Yuno F Gasai

    Yuno F Gasai Forum God, FW

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    the code stays the same, you just need to translate dialogue, notification (chat), items and signs.
     
  7. TurtleTheSeawing

    TurtleTheSeawing That dragon that's studying magic HERO

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    I'm pretty sure they mean Dialogue...
     
  8. Glitchedslayer

    Glitchedslayer Godly Horse Breeder and Memer HERO

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    How would you translate signs and items? New server?
     
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    Rawb Disciple of Bak'al

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    This could actually be a pretty legit opportunity for Wynncraft as a whole. As of now, I can't think of any downsides, but I'm sure that some will pop up.
     
  10. redx475

    redx475 SysAdmin HERO

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    Not speaking on behalf of the wynncraft team here, speaking for myself.

    Translation is generally something outsourced but it isn't something that makes a profit directly off of a product. Translation services are usually paid based on the project, and only once. Proposing a system where the translation team is paid directly and the original creators get a cut is not only shady but somewhat insulting.

    Just my $0.02.
     
  11. Yuno F Gasai

    Yuno F Gasai Forum God, FW

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    it doesn't say anywhere the translators are getting payed
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    I understood it as the Russian hosts will take enough to maintain the server and the rest goes to original wynn
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    actually, no need for another host, the original team can host both servers
     
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    redx475 SysAdmin HERO

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    Sorry, I may have misinterpreted this. I thought it implied a cut going to the translators/youtubers but I may have read a bit too much into it.

    Still, calling it a business proposal implies an exchange of money.

    Additionally, there's a base cost to setting up a new network which is quite a bit of money, and the immediate benefits don't nearly outweigh the costs for that. It simply doesn't make sense monetarily to setup a new network if there's little indication of an immediate playerbase to fill it.
     
  13. Untitled Doc

    Untitled Doc 1 man robotics team

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    A lot of people can't speak English, so I'm in favor of this
    Although it might take a Lot of work, what if you made an option of playing the game in Russian. All the NPCs would say things in Russian, all the text for equipment are Russian, and when you right click signs, it will put the text in chat in Russian.

    That will probably never happen...

    But I do suggest a section on the forums where foreigners can post questions so that translators can answer what it is
     
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    Bebinson Well-Known Adventurer

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    https://forums.wynncraft.com/threads/translation-thread-hub.116762/
     
  15. Ackro

    Ackro The true Elite Quadbrid! HERO

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    I very much agree with this statement! It basically sums up everything I was about to say.
     
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    cloud yeehaw perfectly centered reimu floating midair

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    Alright, here I go, as a person with no business experience except for being in a fandom where the company tends to screw over the schedule and a fandom where a company stole like half of the kickstarter money from an official spinoff game.

    First off, as redx said, the entire thing implies money. Nearly all the money made from donations and such is spent hosting the server, with not much leftover money. This means that there might not even be enough in the first place to make this happen. There's also no guarantee of any results, and this could just be a scam to get EZ$ off of a minecraft server. Also, hosting the alternate server would also cost money, and as I said earlier, there isn't much leftover money after paying to host the server, so that wouldn't work. This means that the cost for Wynncraft would be over double what it is now, and at the moment we don't have enough.

    While yes, I wish we could do this, we just don't want to risk wasting a ton of money. I'd love to meet new people from other countries and such. Also, think: is there even the demographic? We do have a ton of people from all over the world here, but the majority of us are from English-speaking countries. I don't know many people on here who are Russian, however. Anyways, Russian isn't a super huge language - if we were to do this, it would probably be much more common language first, such as Chinese.

    Back to a part I was talking about earlier: this could easily be a scam. We have little to no info on who's doing this. We don't know the names of anyone, where they're based, or if they even have enough people to make it happen. Hell, it's even possible they don't even know Russian. I've seen a screenshot of the business proposal, and I've gotta be honest, the English is pretty bad. If you're a businessman who is willing to pay to get a new server in Russian, wouldn't you at least become as fluent in English as possible? The entire thing is shady as hell. Not to offend the people proposing if they're reading this - sorry, but you gotta give more info. It's an age-old saying: don't talk to strangers. Especially, don't trust them with your money.

    tl;dr: probably don't have enough money, demographic might not be big enough, entire thing is shady as hell
     
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  17. Yuno F Gasai

    Yuno F Gasai Forum God, FW

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    And in what language would you call that section?
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    @SNUPIR can you get some of the Russian youtubers to message the craftedmovie channel or grians channel to prove they are with you.
    @Jacksohn_01 please translate this for him.
     
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    Untitled Doc 1 man robotics team

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    Perhaps how there is a notice board, realm of wynncraft, community tavern, and dungeon super category, perhaps there should be an a super category named foreign help in English, and underneath, a few categories, one for each of the major languages, labeled translation help in a different language. That's where foreigners scrolling through the forums will see a help section in their own language, while anything else would look giberish.

    I don't know, I mainly make class ideas, not forums ideas
     
  19. modern

    modern The irony is that I love the future

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    I agree with the money and the shady part, but if there is any demographic that would love wynncraft as much as English-speakers, it is Russian-speakers.

    Russia has a huge mmo playing fan base, to the point where they have created a entire genre of books called litrpgs, which have become increasingly popular in American culture (ever read Ready Player One? It was based off of books written by Russian authors!)
     
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    Fread Well-Known Adventurer HERO

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    Maybe you can do /language to change the language of everything (text nametag items lore signs etc)

    this is probably gonna take a lot of effort so just do maybe about 5 most commonly used languages
     
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