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Media Why Pure Is So Sh*t

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  1. DerVillager

    DerVillager Famous Adventurer HERO

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    First of all, it's a mythic it doesn't have to fit to my build but I just coulddn't figure out what build a pure could belong to so... In this thread I'll 'show off' all of the 'weak points' from a pure.


    Pure does 0 dmg

    Wait, 0 dmg? What do you mean by '0 dmg', I don't get it.
    Let me explain.
    Pure is well known for it's spell damage but what if I told you that it's doesn't even do anything?
    Yes.
    Spell Damage (in %) only affects neutral dmg.
    And as you may know, Pure doesn't have any neutral dmg so that spell dmg id is completely
    useless.
    Even an Etheral is better, so Pure is only worth to buy for umm... 5 levels?
    Come on, Creator of Pure, WHY?! It's a MYTHIC!!!!!!


    What are the other ids you might be interested in Pure?

    What high ids does Pure have beside spell dmg?

    Health Regen?

    Wat?
    Why health regen? I mean pure is a MAGE weapon you could HEAL instead.
    Beside that, isn't health regen a typical fire identification?
    So the sense could be use it for a high health regen fire build?
    But it needs 50 int and 30 agi, why 'waste' Skillpoints on this?
    I don't get it.

    Mana Steal?

    This is for me the only identification that isn't completely useless.
    However due to mana steal being a bit bugges this isn't making much sense either.

    So what's the use of a Pure?
    It can deal dmg for 5 levels?
    That's not enough for a mythic (for me atleast).

    What we could do to buff Pure:
    Possibility#1 Add neutral dmg (simple but effective)
    Possibility#2 Remove % Spell Dmg, add raw spell dmg.
    Possibility#3 Add Mana Regen (Remove Mana Steal)
    Possibility#4 Remove % Health Regen, add raw health regen
    Possibility#5 All 4 at the same time.

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    Disclaimer:

    I know it's much effort to create weapons.
    This is my view.
    If you have different views to this, let me know!

    That's it for today
     
  2. Zelefant

    Zelefant wizard fortress will return one day HERO

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    OH MY GOSH WE DIDNT KNOW THAT PURE WAS SO BAD


    If you don't like Pure, don't use Pure. Selling it would be better than using it.
     
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  3. captainganon

    captainganon God of k | Derpalope VIP+

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    Correction:

    It's because it's a level 65 weapon
     
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  4. DerVillager

    DerVillager Famous Adventurer HERO

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    Why? I don't get it. Explain it to me please!

    Is that Caps sentence sarcasm? (just asking)
    ________________________________
    Correction it's a 65 weapon
     
  5. Zelefant

    Zelefant wizard fortress will return one day HERO

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    yes it is.
     
  6. Baezingashinga

    Baezingashinga Famous Adventurer VIP+

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    Correction:

    It's a level 65 sentence.
    If you are going to correct someone get it right.
    :-D
     
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  7. DerVillager

    DerVillager Famous Adventurer HERO

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    I don't get it xD
     
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  8. Lesliep

    Lesliep Lazy Wynn Mage

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    It used to be quite good, but got screwed by the spell damage nerf. Also the % should affect the air and water damage on the weapon, but I'm not sure
     
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  9. Thunder

    Thunder Chief Thunder HERO

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    I don't know what you're going on about...
     
  10. Antra

    Antra Malding since 2014 HERO

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    seems like they edited the quote part and were trying to troll us ;D
     
  11. StarDraco123

    StarDraco123 (・8・) VIP+

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    I heard that if you have 500+ raw spell damage (or something of the sort) it 'applies' neutral damage to your weapon/damage (or something like that) but again just what ive heard :P
     
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    Baezingashinga Famous Adventurer VIP+

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    I meant level 65 ;-; I don't know why I said sentence.
     
  13. Kraby

    Kraby *insert clever meme* VIP+

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    spell damage in % effects every kind of damage
    only raw melee damage wont effect elemental damage , rest (% melee/spell or raw spell effects neutral and elemental)
     
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  14. TurtleTheSeawing

    TurtleTheSeawing That dragon that's studying magic HERO

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    Two simple things I just want to say here...

    #1 : maybe it's useless to you, because maybe it doesn't fit your playstyle, but maybe it works with others playstyles...

    And #2 : I can just see quite a few arguments, and fights that could sprout from this... just judging by the title...
     
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  15. Mistrise Mystic

    Mistrise Mystic Surfing winds and chasing windfalls

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    You missed out on the PERFECT opportunity to make a pun... or should I say... purefect?
     
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    Devourer Lava Warrior VIP+

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    I have no idea what you are talking about when you say 'Pure does no damage'. Let's use my Sanare and my build as an example:
    I have around 75% spell damage. I own a Sanare, which, with my heavily water-based build, deals around 200 damage..
    I use meteor.
    Now this should only multiply the water damage by four, correct?
    200 x 4 = 800
    Ok, so meteor isn't affected by water damage, only earth and fire. I have no raw spell damage.
    Now explain how I can deal around 2k WATER DAMAGE with a single meteor. My meteors actually deal 3k to element neutral mobs because of earth and fire damage too.

    For the second point, let's look at what Pure is.
    Pure is both agility and intel.
    Does health regen only apply to defence items?
    No.
    It often applies to agility/air items too.

    As for mana steal, this is just you. Mana steal works fine. I only have 2/2s mana steal and it makes a big difference. Imagine a 10/2s mana steal build. That would be insanely op.

    As for the changes:
    1 and 2: I explained this above.
    3: Mana regen takes time to be applied. Mana steal is much quicker, though the fact that Pure is a fast attack speed weapon does reduce steal a bit. Still, mana steal is far from the main Pure ids.
    4. So you say that there is no point in health regen being there, then you say that it should be changed to raw? I don't get this.
    5. Are you for real?! The reason that bug with raw spell damage had to be fixed was mainly because of how op Pure builds were becoming. No, Pure definitely won't get all 4 of these.

    And this is all from someone who does not own a Pure. But I have both spell damage and mana steal and I also have seen many air and water items with health regen. Seriously, this whole argument is invalid. Pure is good. Maybe not as good as other mythics, but that isn't the point. Pure is a LEVEL 65 MYTHIC. It isn't meant to be an op endgame weapon, just something to last people with a build like this (unless they think that Ethereal is best or actually choose Sanare because they realise how good it is) until they can get a better mythic such as Lament.
     
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  17. Zitrine

    Zitrine In my napalm era CHAMPION

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    What level are you? :3
     
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  18. DerVillager

    DerVillager Famous Adventurer HERO

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    7 :3
     
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    DragonEngineer Famous Adventurer HERO

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    Wow so I know why my Ethereal deals more damage than my Pure.

    Anyways Pure can't even damage Qira, it deals no neutral damage.
     
  20. TurtleTheSeawing

    TurtleTheSeawing That dragon that's studying magic HERO

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    An elemental weapon can damage Qira, people have soloed her with elemental weapons before. Just because an enemy has elemental defenses, doesn't mean that they're invulnerable to that/those elemental damage(s)
     
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