Gavel Patch 14.0.10

I fixed that for you. High learning curve =/= bad class.

 

you dont do a ton of damage from up close
600% on smoke bomb when it slows enemies for 7 mana
or 350% on multi hit when it costs 10 mana and has like no range
the choice is kinnda obvious

also i never said bad class
its just that the it needs some rework on a few spells COUGH smokebomb COUGH multi hit COUGH

 

You seem to forget your basic attack, as well as Spin Attack, and the fact that enemies will walk out of your Smoke bomb from afar, and that Smoke Bombs last for less time the longer they are in the air. Using it for distance fighting is impractical at best.

 

ye spin attack is good if you spam it , but spamming it slows you down
basic attack is very good , infact me entire end game assassin is based around melee , but if you go for a build that is not all melee like i do you have to agree with me that basic attacks are way weaker than spells
and the slowness keeps enemies a while in smoke bombs (atleast enough to make it more worth using than multi hit)
also i edited the first quote a bit if you wanna take a look

 

Arguably, my build -is- more spell-tilted(dex/agi/int) and yet my basic attack, used in conjunction with my spells, shreds enemies. If you want to go a full-melee build, Assassin and Warrior would probably be the best two to go with, in my opinion, but even if you go a full-spell build, your basic attack always has some utility to it, which people ignore and that reduces their effectiveness. If Smoke Bomb is so powerful that Multihits is inviable to use in your opinion, swapping their percent damage would only make Smoke Bomb inviable, as well as giving Multihits an utterly ridiculous 600% base unavoidable damage. And, looking at the damage a bit closer, Smoke Bomb is perfectly balanced.

Smoke Bomb deals 600% damage over 5 seconds and can be escaped. Multihits deals 350% damage over about 0.8-1 seconds. Spin Attack deals 200% instantly. They each have their place and disregarding a spell is only going to bite you in the tail-end.

 

you didnt understand me quite right
what i was saying is that smoke bomb should be more focused around debuffing the enemy and less about damage (mybe make it give blindness for half the time its there but only deal 25% damage a hit so it will be a total of 300%)
and than make multi hit mybe deal like 25% more damage (1 more punch) OR give some kind of a debuff/buff to you OR reduce mana cost by a bit
and than just fix the bug with spin attack

now about melee damage , yes its useful but what i meant to say is that spell damage is better than melee damage in nearly every way without a melee build so making a class really focused around melee damage will put it at a disadvantage

 

350% damage on the class with the 2nd best base damage is plenty enough, I would say. Halving Smoke Bomb's power would just be stupid, and the blindness would only make enemies liable to walk out of it even more often; it would make it impossible to lead them through the smoke.

And if you think spells completely trump melee damage, you obviously have not learned how to properly utilize yours. As I said, even with the build I have that encourages spells, I find myself using my basic attack rather often, and faring just as well as I do while using spells.

 

Oi selvut, I have a question about my own damage output now that raw spell has been... changed (I won't say fixed yet).

Anyway, I have about -490 raw spell and -57% in total, and I use a fast attack speed weapon with 130-210 neutral and 335-400 earth. When I use a meteor... It says I deal *negative* 490 neutral and about 9-10.5k earth damage. Negative 490 simply seems to be my raw spell though...

My average neutral damage is 170, times 4 (400% for meteor) and times a attack speed multiplier (unsure of what it is, assuming fast is around 1.2ish as a low estimate) times .43 is 321 (Some numbers I tried to make nicer, its a bit higher than this). I know the spell damage will still be negative, but, 321 - 490 isnt anywhere near -490.

EDIT: Actually, I have around a 2/3 strength% bonus. I should in fact be dealing positive damage unless something is extremely wrong, as I am underestimating a majority of my positives and overestimating my negatives

 

I am not good with this sort of math...sorry.

 

Okay :/ Just, I would think I would be doing some pretty okay neutral damage, but im dealing negative. Also, does negative heal mobs?

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Nevermind, it does in fact heal mobs. even past their max hp... (Pretty sure this is extremely broken in both calculation and my ability to do that)

 

When i first saw this update i was so excited and thought it was the level 90+ quest update. I wasn't aware this was happening. I'm a mage so it's a bit sad but a glitch is a glitch. Anyway, nice job.

 

I'm sorry about this, but I've been trying to come up with a way to properly express my mirth at what are supposed to be attacks, yet, in fact, are healing spells for hostile mobs. Undoubtedly this is a glitch, a bug, an error of calculations and/or coding. But, still, my best expression of this is !!

 

Couldn't have said it better myself

 

But heres my problem if they fixed the spell damage for mages wouldnt that effect the assassins since there builds are mostly focused on the smoke bombs and multi hits which are spells ? that basically kills the assassin and makes them 10 times weaker

 

My assassin has been affected none by this and it uses a build that would seem to focus on spells(thunder/water/air).

 

Ok ill go off of what your saying ,

 

I understand... Even though I was working toward getting that much damage.

 

I had to spend tons of le making a new build because of this how could you do this salted :(

 

ALL MAGES HERE MY CALL I SAY WE START A RIOT WHOS WITH ME!!!

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YOU DESERVE ALL THE DAMAGE IT TOOK U DAYS TO BE ABLE TO DO WE SHOULDNT LET THEM TAKE THAT AWAY FROM US >:O

 

...yes, because it wasn't game breaking in the slightest. soloing the strongest boss in the game in 11 SECONDS is no big deal, you can do that easily, with any class.