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Nesaak Vs Almuj | A Massive Find / Theory / Fact?

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  1. i eat bees

    i eat bees i eat bees HERO

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    Welcome everyone!

    Today I am gonna talk about hopefully a giant find about the Wynncraft lore.


    Recently @IAmHedgehog have made a thread about something that he thinks is a "Nesaak weapon store", Well I think not, When seeing the thread for the first time, I've realized I found something, Let me just connect the dots.

    So, In the base that he have found there is...

    A prison cell.
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    A bunch of weapons.
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    A water hole.
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    Something that looks like a place where important people sit, Like a council.
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    An armory.
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    Explosives room.
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    And a map of Nesaak.
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    Now let's get to the point, A while ago (Like 1-2 weeks after Gavel came out) when exploring, @_Lamby_ my amazing friend that used to be a part of the guild I am owning, Have found something really interesting in the new building inside of the Desert that nobody seemed to post on the forums before, He showed it to me and we have decided to keep it as a "Secret" just so we have a place to hangout with some people, And do some cool roleplays, We secretly claimed it as the official Necronomicon (My guild) Headquarters, Thinking it's just a stupid military base with nothing in it, We showed it only to close friends, Now, Take a look at this base.

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    In the middle of the top desert you can find this strange building.
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    And if you keep going forwards you'll find a button on a book shelf.
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    When you press it a door in the left side of the front wall in the room will open leading you to this:

    A prison cell (This is actually placed in the outside base).
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    A bunch of weapons.

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    A water hole.
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    Something that looks like a place where important people sit, Like a council.

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    An armory.
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    Explosives room.
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    And a map of the top desert.
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    When you think about it, It makes sense that Nesaak and Almuj would have war... Heat and Cold, Snow and Desert, Maybe they both were getting ready for war? If they did, It would've been really long ago, Because there's no one in the military bases and they seem really rotten and old, Since the 2 bases has the exact same stuff in them, Maybe they were not fighting eachother? Maybe they were fighting together? What do you guys think?


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    Final Theory:


    Unknown

    Current Theory:

    The Desert base have successfully demolished the Nesaak base, If you look at the Nesaak base, The inside of it seems really rotten and old, There's almost and no even food in the base, And it is obviously poor, However, The Desert base has a lot of expensive and fresh food like melons and pigs just laying on the tables, Seems like whoever owns the desert base had a little party, It also makes sense that they won the war because their storage is just full of emeralds and fresh looking food, Maybe they raided the Nesaak base? Where could all that money come from?

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    Possibilities:

    -Nesaak VS Almuj.

    -Almuj and Nesaak fighting together/One group owned the 2 bases or the 2 of the bases have decided to team, Since it kinda makes sense that the same person will own them, Because they both have the exact same rooms and items.

    -Nesaak VS Barracks.

    -Nesaak and Barracks fighting together.

    -Nesaak & Almuj VS Wynn Excavations @TEST_CHARACTER01.

    -Wynn Excavation site A versus Wynn Excavations site B (Site A is really close to the Almuj base, While site B is close to the Nesaak base).

    -The Desert base was used as Ba'al's bunker @Bebinson.

    -The people who controlled the 2 bases were just defending their own territory, Since if they were about to attack a territory, They wouldn't have a map of their own territory, They'll have a map of the enemy's territory so they can learn the land and ambush them @Frostburn.


    -The Almuj base belongs to whoever is from Nesaak and the Nesaak base belongs to whoever is from Almuj, So that's why there are maps of the areas in both of the bases, They were both setting up a base for an ambush inside of eachother's territories.

    -The Desert base have successfully demolished the Nesaak base, If you look at the Nesaak base, The inside of it seems really rotten and old, There's almost and no even food in the base, And it is obviously poor, However, The Desert base has a lot of expensive food like melons and pigs just laying on the tables, Seems like whoever owns the desert base had a little party, It also makes sense that they win the war because their storage is just full of emeralds and fresh looking food, Maybe they raided the Nesaak base? Where could that money come from?


    -The place was used for a scrapped quest/Will be used in a future quest/Will take a role in the Wynncraft story line.

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    SIDE THEORY


    I just thought about something, Everyone knows about the water problems in Almuj right? What if... Whoever owned the top desert base was the cause of this problem? If he/them were/was the problem, Then they did it on purpose, Means that they wanted the enemy to be low on water and get weak, So it makes more sense that the owners of the Desert base were the Barracks, Or that the Desert base was owned by Nesaak that was actually Almuj's enemy.

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    What do we know?

    -Both of the bases needed to cage someone.

    -Both of the bases needed a huge amount of water.

    -The Desert Base has a broken cage with blood all around it means someone escaped from there.

    -The Desert Base stole most of the water in the desert (Might not be correct).

    -The desert base have a lot of money, A big and organized armory, And a lot of expensive food like melons and pigs are still laying on the tables, And there is even a giant emerald storage filled up with a ton of emeralds and food, While the Nesaak base doesn't seem to have a lot of food in it or even emeralds.

    -Both of the bases needed explosives.

    -Both of the bases had a council group leading it (Might not be correct).

    -Both of the base owners were very well armed and ready for war.

    -Both of the bases have a lot of sleeping rooms and beds, Meaning a HUGE amount of people/soldiers.

    -In the quest "Drought Sand" Chilye says that Almuj is running low on water and supplies, The top desert base is full of water food and other types of supplies, Means that Almuj doesn't even KNOW about the base, So the Desert base was not owned by Almuj because if it was the owners of the city would know about it and get supplies from there.

    -Nobody have ever mentioned Almuj in Nesaak or Nesaak in Almuj.

    -The cage in the Desert base is only 1 block sized and whoever was caged in it was tortured, Unlike the Nesaak cage which is more like a cell, A clean room with a bed and unbroken bars.

    -The people who owned the Desert base are barbarian and brutal (Might not be correct).

    -The Nesaak base doesn't seem too rotten but it is abandoned, Unlike the Almuj base that looks extremely rotten old and abandoned from outside, But is probably not abandoned since a lot of pigs melons and fresh food are laying on the table, Maybe the army have gone somewhere?

    -Both of the base owners were preparing for an huge war.

    -Both of the bases has very good elemental view on the field around them.

    -The bases are connected somehow to time.

    -The Nesaak base is poor.

    -The Nesaak base has quartz for somereason, Which is known to be extremely rare in Wynn and have magical powers.

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    Questions:

    Who are the owners of the 2 bases?

    When did the war occurred and did it occurred?

    Why were they both warring/Were they warring or even planning to war?

    Where did the Desert base got all the money from?

    Why did nobody in Nesaak ever mentioned Almuj and nobody Almuj ever mentioned Nesaak?


    Is the Desert base not abandoned yet? Where did the army go?


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    Clues:


    "You guys weren't supposed to find this just yet" -Salted
    "Only time will tell" -Lotem

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    I want to work on connecting the dots we have left, We all have more then enough evidence on making an ultimate theory and proving it, Minding about helping me out?


    ~Mutton.



     
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  2. Ascended Kitten

    Ascended Kitten The Greatest HERO

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    Finally a theory with a lot of evidence! :3
     
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    NeonRider Famous Adventurer CHAMPION

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  4. Hyprosis

    Hyprosis YouTube creator, 12K subs, Double Veteran HERO

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  5. Jayurn

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    Welp, it's just a theory
    A WYNN THEORY
     
  6. Zelefant

    Zelefant wizard fortress will return one day HERO

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    They could have been fighting WynnExcavation, because the first WynnEx site was near the top desert and the second was nearby the House of Twain, which isn't far from Nesaak. That might be why it's those exact cities right next to Excavation sites that have the military bunker. that's probably why Nesaak doesn't have a map of the top desert, and instead, their own town.
     
  7. Tyralion

    Tyralion Knights in the Tiger Skin VIP

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    I believe these are going to play a great role in the upcoming questline, as well as the new barracks in Detlas.
    They'll most likely have some underground chambers too, but that's just my sixth feeling playing games with my mind. A hypothesis, I'd say... A WYNN HYPOTHESIS!!!
     
  8. Frostburn

    Frostburn Famous Adventurer

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    I would believe they were fighting together or at least defending their own land, if you were to attack another city or country, would you have a map of your own city/country or the defenders city/country? Me, I'd choose to have a map of their city/country, it helps navigate the land and draw strategic positions that they need to reach so they may prepare an ambush.
     
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  9. Bart (MC)

    Bart (MC) Ex-Item Maker & Day Counter (MC) CHAMPION

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    Behind the map in Nesaak is a secret way out, is there also a secret way out in the Almuj thing?
     
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    Rawb Disciple of Bak'al

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    Or you know...this could be just a coincidence...
     
  11. Ascended Kitten

    Ascended Kitten The Greatest HERO

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    Well, it is the same building-style, with elements of the respective area, and they both have more or less the same rooms.
     
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    Glitchedslayer Godly Horse Breeder and Memer HERO

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    Why does uncle grolan love so much war...
     
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    Zelefant wizard fortress will return one day HERO

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    I doubt the Detlas barracks has to do with it, as the Detlas one is still in use and isn't in the same style as the rest.
     
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    Glitchedslayer Godly Horse Breeder and Memer HERO

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    My theory is Nessak, Almuj (Barracks) V Detlas/Ragni

    This is assuming the kind of ragni controls detlas. The same could be said of troms. They might be soing a territory/trade war and it would be perfect since they can come in at 2 sides
     
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    I remember something from the old forums where someone posted a story of a war in wynn, I don't remember if almuj and nesaak fought together or against each other. I also don't remember if it was a fan fiction or if they brought up any in game evidence. my point is that it might be a reference to that story.
     
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    Ok. Well, this cant be for fighting the corruption, as they wouldn't need to keep any senseless zombies as prisoners. This must be preparing for war.

    But what war? We haven't seen any conflict between cities in Wynn since Ragni and Troms signed a treaty. It could because of Ba'al's invasion, or something. I really don't know.
     
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    This is one of the best theories I've seen in a while.

    Idk about you guys but if there is a war between the two cities...

    #TEAMALMUJ
    Cause Amuj is Jumla backwards. I want some coffee. Not spilled on me though.
     
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    Witcher the crappy class suggestions guy

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    I'm not sure how exactly this indicates a war between them.

    As soon as I found the barracks I knew they were almost identical to each other and are most likely connected to each other. and are going to be used in the main storyline.

    However, if it was the actual towns fighting each other, why would they have a need to hide them as the whole town would be in on the plan. Also, both barracks being almost identical suggests that they are more likely under the control of the same individual or organisation that wanted a similar layout (or somehow both enemy sides chose the same builder to construct their bases).
     
  20. then perish

    then perish it really do be like that sometimes

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    This is actually a really good theory, and I like it.
    However, there's a couple points that you put in the "Things We Know" section that we don't really know for sure, and are rather just inferences/theories:

    -The Desert Base stole most of the water in the desert.

    This is just an inference and, though it does make sense, there's no way to tell whether or not they actually stole the water from the desert or if they got it from somewhere else.

    -Both of the bases had a council group leading it.
    This, too, is an inference based on the council-like seating- granted, it's probably the case, but we can't confirm that there was a council or if those places were used for something else.

    -The people who owned the Desert base are barbarian and brutal.
    Again, there's no way to know this. We can infer from the blood around the cage that someone was tortured, but even then, torturing someone doesn't automatically make you barbaric. It's cruel, yes, but it doesn't make you barbaric.

    Other than that, your other points seem pretty solid. I just wanted to point these three out because they're all inferences/theories rather than things we know for sure.
     
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